Naturist massage - bare issues

[Sepceli]

Hmm. I would stay well clear of any client asking for "prostate", "yoni" or "tantric" (and sometimes even "tao") massage. They are usually codes for different types of sexual massage. Also be careful of any expressed "medical" problems that involve the groin area unless it is clear that the client really does have serious issue. If he or she has such difficulties (eg a hernia) then massage is probably contra-indicated.

Proper naturist massage is non-sexual (although undoubtedly a little sensual). My experience is that it is not advertised openly and only offered by therapists to clients on an established basis of trust. That is certainly the way in which I discovered it (see below). Since then a surprising number of "conventional" therapists have indicated to me that they offer it to serious clients. However the boundaries have to be firm. That said, once you find a serious therapist who offers professional naturist therapy, you wont go back!!

 

[Meklar]

I thought I should mention that I received a large number of requests for the identity of the naturist therapist/s I mentioned in my last post. The therapists themselves do not want their names given out but tend only to agree to give such treatment on the basis of established trust with the client

There are however a number of genuine therapists who advertise on Gumtree, Craigslist and HalloLondon from whom inquiry can be made. A few ground rules for the uninitiated:

(1) Stay away from those advertising "tantric"/"sensual" massage as their services are generally directed elsewhere. There ARE a few genuine tantrika, but they rarely advertise on such fora.

(2) Generally avoid those therapists who describe themselves by reference to their appearance and/or other personal data which is irrelevant to the service they provide.

(3) Google the telephone number to check against multiple different adverts and/or against someone with no internet history. Take care if the telephone number if interspersed with dashes or stars- this is generally to prevent googling.

(4) Anyone who works very late into the evening or who offers only one hour services at a very high hourly rate is generally offering something else.

(5) A number of therapists openily state that you will be covered by a towel during treatments. They mean it and you will not be offered naturist services!

(6) Take care if the therapist does not at least post her first name on any advertisement.


Hope this helps.

 

[Beatle fanatic]

Hi, I'm new to this site and was really interested to read all the comments about "to bare or not to bare!"
I am a LomiLomi bodywork practitioner - a wonderful healing bodywork from the Hawaiian islands. Traditionally this massage is done with the recipient being naked - there are wonderful long flowing strokes up the sides of the body which can be enjoyed best with no underpants on. There is work on the glutes - wonderful for sciatica and work on the hips.
I was taught by Hawaiians and Americans - neither of whom have a problem taking clothes off and baring all.
BUT... in the last couple of years of practicing I have found that lots of my clients have an issue / feel uncomfortable with taking everything off - even if they know they are being draped. For this reason I do not do breast work unless asked and suggest that they keep underpants on. I am struggling with this issue of British prudishness because I know that this bodywork is soooo much nicer inimpeded by clothes - but at the end of the day, it is way more important for my clients to feel 100% comfortable and relaxed - whatever their choice of bareness
Aloha!
Jacqui

 

[ZeFishChick]

I am struggling with this issue of British prudishness because I know that this bodywork is soooo much nicer inimpeded by clothes - but at the end of the day, it is way more important for my clients to feel 100% comfortable and relaxed - whatever their choice of bareness.

I think you're right with your final comment here, but I also think it has to do with the comfort of the therapist. It's obvious from reading this forum, that the majority of therapists choose not to massage naked bodies, because they are uncomfortable doing so, and with perfectly valid reasons, especially where the client is of the opposite sex.

As I mentioned in my previous post, on a similar thread, I recently had a massage where I was naked and undraped, and I found it a liberating experience. It helped that I was treated by a brilliant masseuse (whom I've returned to since), but I found the fact that she was unfazed by male nakedness, and had no qualms about massaging male buttocks, a refreshing change to the norm in British massaging culture.

Where there is mutual trust between the therapist and client, and both are comfortable with the client's nakedness, I believe the experience of a full body massage can only be enhanced when unimpeded by clothes, as Jacqui puts it.

Anyway, that's my final comment on naked massage on this forum; I'm going for a 45 minute Indian Head Massage next week...;-)

 

[Yes I]

Poor Jacqui! Lomi Lomi or Mauri can ONLY properly be performed on a client who is not wearing underwear, and I think your clients have serious self-image problems if they "buy the ticket and then fail to take the ride" (no additional metaphor intended). The point of its gentle effleurage is its long flowing strokes and its inhibition by underwear or other barriers. Indeed most people have it undraped or with very restricted draping. Why do they go in the first place? I think they should really look for other massage treatments such as Thai. Or go to the cinema. Or a garden centre. Whatever ...

The other possibility is that you are not putting them at their ease, which I doubt.

I note that you in Sussex. I suspect that the good folk of that lovely county are probably more inhibited than those of the metropolis- where both client and therapist appear to have less of an issue (if any) with underwear and draping ....

 

[amanda and star]

I could say so much about this topic!! But I've been there and done that on other threads.

All I wanted to say was your comment made me laugh! Thank you for that!

Kitten
x

 

[Desereh]

well well well, I came upon this thread as I was trying to research a good answer for my VTCT VR74 assignment and trying to find out exactly what 'innapropriate behaviour constituted as a therapist and how to deal with it. This has opened my eyes in loads of ways and I never knew about half of these different 'massages'. As a newly qualified Reflexologist it makes me glad that my clients only have to remove their socks!!

I might also add that should my clients witness me wearing anything less than a good salon uniform then it would be likely my business would collapse as I would be a sight for sore eyes.....but anyway its a great thread. Long may it last!

xx

 

[dnt4get2luvme]

As I have been reading all the input given on lomilomi, I cannot help but get frustrated with all the explanations shared. Being born and raised in Hawaii, and having been taught lomilomi since the age of 7, I wish to correct the misconceptions about true authentic lomilomi.
What is being done in many parts of Europe, Germany, and Australia is not true authentic lomi. "Temple Style", and Lomilomi Nui have been taught as popular techniques. This is "NOT" lomilomi.
Lomilomi is not a technique such as Swedish, or shiatsu etc... It is a lifestyle that is done each and everyday. Lomilomi's literal translation is massage, but it is not the long flowing strokes, or the massaging of people using just a towel cover. The physical massage is the least important aspect of lomi. There is "NO" protocol or set technique. What everyone has seen or experienced with the long flowing, connective strokes is merely an exaggerated Swedish massage. The style that most of you are familiar with, is in actuality, offensive to native Hawaiian people.
I would love to share the true meaning with anyone who is interested. There are many who claim to be teachers of lomilomi, but allow me to show you the proper training, or where to find training from acutal Hawaiian lomi teachers and you will see that it is not what each of you think it is.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Hi Kauhi,

I read your post with great interest and would be very keen to learning more about the authentic lomi as I'm sure would others on this forum.

 

[aDulaancense92]

Me too! Your post was also copied on to the end of the thread on Lomilomi, people are quite keen to hear what you have to say, as there seems to be a lot of confusion about this style of massage.

 

[Kennadie Gonzales]

Thank you hawaiian style for your input and comments. There is a lot more to lomilomi than 'just a massage technique'.
I don't know what style you assume most people are most familiar with (that would be offensive to native Hawaiians). It is such a little known practice in the UK that most people are unfamiliar with lomilomi at all.
I do agree that to practice a massage in a spa setting and call is lomilomi is not preserving the tradition or culture, but I also feel that if this wonderful sacred art was kept in Hawaii and not taken to other parts of the earth, then it probably would have been almost lost by now. Yes, it's important to keep it authentic, but I believe that most importantly it is important to spread the aloha in any way that feels right to each individual without judgment.
love is the answer!

 

[Shuthrower]

ive never experienced a naturist massage but from reading everybodys threads id like to try one any suggestions or good places in lancs area

 

[Pompal 09.]

Please could anyone tell me where i can get a naturist massage from a naturist female masseuse, i live near Warrington Cheshire. regards.

 

[AlexWolfen]

Do you get a local paper, most have a whole page devoted to specific types of massage.

Eileen.

 

[Jacob M]

I just used ask.co.uk and put 'Naturist Massage, Warrington, Cheshire" in the search box - there are several in Cheshire.

 

[BestEyeCream]

Unless the ads are in the health & beauty section then they are usually a front for escort services and other adult services.

 

[zwaterbushle]

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[globalgirl2]

I am getting increased bemused by what the market rate is for professional naturist massage. For established practitioners who offer this to trusted clients, their rates usually appear to stay the same. So they should be- as nothing "extra" is being offered. However I have noticed what appear to be genuine practitioners trying to charge £80-£100ph for this service (and indeed when I enquire, they are indeed proper and professional therapists). I am usually told this is because it is a service which is only offered by the "limited few".

I find it extraordinary that people will pay this sort of rate (if indeed they do). Given that more therapists seem to be comfortable with such treatments, are they getting clients at this figure? My general experience is that professional naturist massage is usually around £40ph for in-call and £55-60ph for outcall (at least in London). Perhaps I am missing something, but one wonders how these high rates can be justified when it is clearly a non-sexual service. Equally strange are male therapists doing naturist massage for less than the usual hourly rate. I need not dwell on what they are up to for too long and they should be avoided at all costs!

Wondered what people's experience was.....

 

[otterly evil]

I have tried to get a visiting naturist massage in London on several occasions but either the therapists are not interested (even ones whom i have been a regular customer of) or they charge huge rates and offer more than just a massage.
I would love to find one that is comfortable supplying a naturist service but without the extras and charging the Earth!

 

[cailyn]

As a new visitor to this forum, I must agree. Someone is clearly onto a good thing! My long-standing practitioner charged me nothing extra (and offered me nothing extra) for a naturist massage. It brought be closer to her in a personal sense and the idea that she would make more money out of it would have been totally wrong. But given that RyanAir is apparently to charge for using the loo (and at some stage for reading or chatting) on a flight, nothing surprises me anymore. Anyone charging £80 or £100 per hour for normal massage is clearly hinting that something else is on offer. But if you pay it, more fool you I say. If you want to see someone strutting her stuff, remember Studland Beach is free and Stringfellows apparently £20 a dance ...!