Need some advice please...

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I have a client scheduled for my practicum next week who is very large lady. I have a couple questions. I am not sure how much different it will be as far as pressures , I mean, I know it's relative for all people but do extremly large clients need deeper pressure to get to the muscles? Also she will be hanging off the sides of my table, is there anything I can do to help her feel more secure so she is not feeling like she's gonna topple off? I'm concerned we will be putting major stress on the table and I am almost afraid to add the working wieght.Please note.... I am NOT being mean.... I am honestly not feeling like I know how to handle this situation. I have a love for all people , shapes and sizes...these are just honest things I have never encountered and I want to make her feel comfortable and to come back. Any advice on treating large clients would be appreciated. Thanks
 
Need some advice please...

If you are concerned that your table might not be able to withstand her weight and the working weight, I'd contact the client to ascertain how much she weighs. Additionally, I'd make sure there are NO contraindications involved (most specifically those associated with obesity or grossly obese people).As for strokes, if you have training in thermal therapies, you might consider using a heating treatment to warm up the tissues. And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.
 
First of all... has she been a client to the clinic before, and are all the tables the same? ย I am assuming that she has been there before since you have the heads up on her size. ย For your own sake, find out what weight the table can handle and just estimate. ย If she has been there before, and everything went fine, I wouldn't worry about it unless she is on the fringe of the table weight. ย I would drop my table a few notches that way you are comfortable and are not straining yourself through body mechanics. ย Also, watch when she gets on the table, if it creaks and bows (common sense) is that she is too heavy and should not be worked on, and your added pressure can collapse the table, especially if it is a portable table. ย Because the last thing you need is to get hurt before you are even out there, and you really don't want your client to get hurt.I definitely know what you mean, when I was in school, I convinced my shiatsu teacher to let us work on the tables, because I have had 2 knee surgeries and can't kneel down so working on the floor is extremely difficult. ย Now I am not a small woman, I am very athletic, large framed and dense. ย So I am not a lightweight, well my partner for the day was a woman who makes me look small... ok, so when we were working we had to sit on the table to get the connection and do the hara assessment... well oh boy did that table creak and shift when she sat down. ย I know we were maxing out the weight and since it was a portable table, it isn't one flat slab of wood... I was so afraid that we were going to end up on the floor!!! ย By the way this was a wooden aurora oakworks table. ย So just take precautions and use common sense. ย I know it will be hard to turn away a client, but safety should be your first concern. ย But if she has been there before, she feels safe and has come back, and you will be ok.
 
Need some advice please...

And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.

Just a note that an effective session doesn't have to give your body a "beating" no matter what, if one pays attention to body mechanics and uses available tools. ย Being a fat client is not an assault on the practitioner.

To the original poster: ย I have many regular clients who are "morbidly obese" (one of my target markets) and their pressure requirements vary as much as do those of the very tiny client or clients of any other size and body composition. ย Just as many extra-big people need very light pressure as need very heavy, so checking in with her can be exactly the same as it is for any other client you've ever seen. ย You might consider setting your table a little lower than usual, for your comfort and hers. ย If you don't have side extensions for her arms, you can always tuck the sheet in under the length of her arms while not working on her back or arms. ย I do this for clients of all sizes (if they're not claustrophobic!) and many like the feeling of security.

There are few tables on the market that couldn't handle even a very heavy (500+ lb.) client. ย I don't have a special heavy-duty table and it holds up great even with the largest of clients. ย I'd be very very wary of asking her weight because my god how rude, but she also may be worried about the table herself so knowing your table's max will help you keep her safe. ย To reassure yourself -- how many times have 4 or 5 students sat together on one table during a demonstration in class, and how many times has a table busted under the pressure? ย (This used to happen all the time when I was a student and the number of table failures was zero.)

Your care and concern for your client will show. ย It's up to her whether to come back but I have no doubt you'll provide a caring, quality session.
 
Thanks everyone. You have been helpful and reassuring. ย  I was so not wanting anyone to think I was being rude ย :(. I will not ask her wieght, I would never do that . I hate it when people ask me mine ( I could stand to lose about 50 lbs myself idealy) So thanks for the tips. ย ;D I really appreciate it.
 
If you have purchased a decent table from one of the major manufacturers, you should be all set - they are made to to be sturdy. ย Give them a quick call to dbl check (as mentioned above). I wouldn't bother with asking her weight, don't think it's necessary & agree that it could be considered rude. My other suggestion would be to double check all the nuts & bolts. ย I know that my portable will work its way loose from time to time & it's just good common sense maintanence that should be checked often anyway. ย 
 
Being both obese and a student of massage, I can share experience from both sides of this issue. ย When we studied people of size in the special populations units, there was a suggestion in our text (Mosby's Fundamentials of Therapeutic Massage) that if the table couldn't handle the client, give the session on the floor. ย With all due respect to the MT/author, this is a terrible solution! ย Not only would it be embarassing, but it is often difficult and sometimes painful to get down on and up from the floor. ย Pressure: start LIGHT and work deeper at the client's request. ย Use more whole-hand strokes; fingers pinch and poke and may cause bruising. ย Adipose tissue is very fragile, containing one mile of capillaries for every pound of tissue. ย Fascia adhesions are common, and painful as well. ย My arms are especially sensitive, but my back can handle much firmer touch. ย  ย When you say hanging off the table, do you mean the sides of her body will? If so, try side-lying massage techniques like you'd do for a pregnant client. ย Large arms do not lay flat on the table. ย If you don't have a armrest on your table, roll your stool over and let her use it to rest her arms in a prone position. ย In supine, she may choose put her arms up under her head, as one of my clients does. Be sure to tuck the drape well at her side.Our Earthlite tables creak under any weight (and frequently loose screws), but the Tatum, Oakworks {and ...I forget the other brand at the moment} are much more stable.I appreciate that you took the time to get some advice. ย We all have hang ups about different issues with clients and this is a great place to discuss them "safely" w/o hurting feelings. ย 
 
Thanks for all the advise again. I felt SO bad having to ask but honestly wanted to know what was best to do so she will have a good experience and not because of any hang ups I have. I need to lose about 60 lbs as of this morning so I am last one to talk. I just was so concerned about how strict these table weights really are and it would make me feel AWFUL if I in anyway made this client feel insecure or worse yet get hurt.All your replies are appreciated I am feeling a bit less worried now. You all are great. ย ;D
 
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    Thursday ๐Ÿ’œโŽShangri-la SpaโŽ ๐Ÿ’– the best place for luxury Asian massages in GTA๐ŸŽ‰Two fab spots Richmond Hill & Oakville A squad of 9 stunning girls from China, Hong Kong, Japan & Korea โ€” Coco, Selena, Tina, Ada,new Yoyo, big bottom Lulu,34D Busty Cici, JPN Yui & service queen Doris โ€” ready to spoil you silly๐Ÿง˜โ€โœจTable Shower special on now!๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆHit up 647-695-6354โ˜Ž or shoot a msg to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169.๐Ÿ’ฐโœจ Cruise on over to 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill. Let the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    โญ๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸโœจโœจ๐ŸŒŸ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿฆ‹๐Ÿฆ‹๐ŸŒŸyoung girl 20-23 years old, luna , tifany, cherry, jolie working now come to enjoy good time now baby come come now๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โญ๏ธ sugarlovespa.ca ๐ŸŒŸโœจ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐Ÿ’–
  34. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian Turkish girl in Thursday and Saturday
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  36. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Thursday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY, LILY & YOYO CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. color=#FF6600]LILY[/color] is a slim, elegant and beautiful Vietnamese honey, 5โ€™4โ€ tall with Nice pointy C Cups
  37. SunriseRH:
    THURSDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: NAYLA & YOYO . 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola. ๐Ÿ’œYOYO๐Ÿ’œ is a young Chinese SUPERSTAR, beautiful face & very sexy petite body, who can satisfy your desires with her incredibly varied talents. SUNRISE SPA
  38. NewOriental:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & KAT. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is BEAUTIFUL, young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. NEW ORIENTAL SPA
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  40. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Rania ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups.
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina ๐ŸŒธCassy ๐ŸŒธRebecca โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy with big buttocks open mind 30โ€™s and young cute Tina with curvy body 30s, pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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