Need some advice please...

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I have a client scheduled for my practicum next week who is very large lady. I have a couple questions. I am not sure how much different it will be as far as pressures , I mean, I know it's relative for all people but do extremly large clients need deeper pressure to get to the muscles? Also she will be hanging off the sides of my table, is there anything I can do to help her feel more secure so she is not feeling like she's gonna topple off? I'm concerned we will be putting major stress on the table and I am almost afraid to add the working wieght.Please note.... I am NOT being mean.... I am honestly not feeling like I know how to handle this situation. I have a love for all people , shapes and sizes...these are just honest things I have never encountered and I want to make her feel comfortable and to come back. Any advice on treating large clients would be appreciated. Thanks
 
Need some advice please...

If you are concerned that your table might not be able to withstand her weight and the working weight, I'd contact the client to ascertain how much she weighs. Additionally, I'd make sure there are NO contraindications involved (most specifically those associated with obesity or grossly obese people).As for strokes, if you have training in thermal therapies, you might consider using a heating treatment to warm up the tissues. And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.
 
First of all... has she been a client to the clinic before, and are all the tables the same? ย I am assuming that she has been there before since you have the heads up on her size. ย For your own sake, find out what weight the table can handle and just estimate. ย If she has been there before, and everything went fine, I wouldn't worry about it unless she is on the fringe of the table weight. ย I would drop my table a few notches that way you are comfortable and are not straining yourself through body mechanics. ย Also, watch when she gets on the table, if it creaks and bows (common sense) is that she is too heavy and should not be worked on, and your added pressure can collapse the table, especially if it is a portable table. ย Because the last thing you need is to get hurt before you are even out there, and you really don't want your client to get hurt.I definitely know what you mean, when I was in school, I convinced my shiatsu teacher to let us work on the tables, because I have had 2 knee surgeries and can't kneel down so working on the floor is extremely difficult. ย Now I am not a small woman, I am very athletic, large framed and dense. ย So I am not a lightweight, well my partner for the day was a woman who makes me look small... ok, so when we were working we had to sit on the table to get the connection and do the hara assessment... well oh boy did that table creak and shift when she sat down. ย I know we were maxing out the weight and since it was a portable table, it isn't one flat slab of wood... I was so afraid that we were going to end up on the floor!!! ย By the way this was a wooden aurora oakworks table. ย So just take precautions and use common sense. ย I know it will be hard to turn away a client, but safety should be your first concern. ย But if she has been there before, she feels safe and has come back, and you will be ok.
 
Need some advice please...

And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.

Just a note that an effective session doesn't have to give your body a "beating" no matter what, if one pays attention to body mechanics and uses available tools. ย Being a fat client is not an assault on the practitioner.

To the original poster: ย I have many regular clients who are "morbidly obese" (one of my target markets) and their pressure requirements vary as much as do those of the very tiny client or clients of any other size and body composition. ย Just as many extra-big people need very light pressure as need very heavy, so checking in with her can be exactly the same as it is for any other client you've ever seen. ย You might consider setting your table a little lower than usual, for your comfort and hers. ย If you don't have side extensions for her arms, you can always tuck the sheet in under the length of her arms while not working on her back or arms. ย I do this for clients of all sizes (if they're not claustrophobic!) and many like the feeling of security.

There are few tables on the market that couldn't handle even a very heavy (500+ lb.) client. ย I don't have a special heavy-duty table and it holds up great even with the largest of clients. ย I'd be very very wary of asking her weight because my god how rude, but she also may be worried about the table herself so knowing your table's max will help you keep her safe. ย To reassure yourself -- how many times have 4 or 5 students sat together on one table during a demonstration in class, and how many times has a table busted under the pressure? ย (This used to happen all the time when I was a student and the number of table failures was zero.)

Your care and concern for your client will show. ย It's up to her whether to come back but I have no doubt you'll provide a caring, quality session.
 
Thanks everyone. You have been helpful and reassuring. ย  I was so not wanting anyone to think I was being rude ย :(. I will not ask her wieght, I would never do that . I hate it when people ask me mine ( I could stand to lose about 50 lbs myself idealy) So thanks for the tips. ย ;D I really appreciate it.
 
If you have purchased a decent table from one of the major manufacturers, you should be all set - they are made to to be sturdy. ย Give them a quick call to dbl check (as mentioned above). I wouldn't bother with asking her weight, don't think it's necessary & agree that it could be considered rude. My other suggestion would be to double check all the nuts & bolts. ย I know that my portable will work its way loose from time to time & it's just good common sense maintanence that should be checked often anyway. ย 
 
Being both obese and a student of massage, I can share experience from both sides of this issue. ย When we studied people of size in the special populations units, there was a suggestion in our text (Mosby's Fundamentials of Therapeutic Massage) that if the table couldn't handle the client, give the session on the floor. ย With all due respect to the MT/author, this is a terrible solution! ย Not only would it be embarassing, but it is often difficult and sometimes painful to get down on and up from the floor. ย Pressure: start LIGHT and work deeper at the client's request. ย Use more whole-hand strokes; fingers pinch and poke and may cause bruising. ย Adipose tissue is very fragile, containing one mile of capillaries for every pound of tissue. ย Fascia adhesions are common, and painful as well. ย My arms are especially sensitive, but my back can handle much firmer touch. ย  ย When you say hanging off the table, do you mean the sides of her body will? If so, try side-lying massage techniques like you'd do for a pregnant client. ย Large arms do not lay flat on the table. ย If you don't have a armrest on your table, roll your stool over and let her use it to rest her arms in a prone position. ย In supine, she may choose put her arms up under her head, as one of my clients does. Be sure to tuck the drape well at her side.Our Earthlite tables creak under any weight (and frequently loose screws), but the Tatum, Oakworks {and ...I forget the other brand at the moment} are much more stable.I appreciate that you took the time to get some advice. ย We all have hang ups about different issues with clients and this is a great place to discuss them "safely" w/o hurting feelings. ย 
 
Thanks for all the advise again. I felt SO bad having to ask but honestly wanted to know what was best to do so she will have a good experience and not because of any hang ups I have. I need to lose about 60 lbs as of this morning so I am last one to talk. I just was so concerned about how strict these table weights really are and it would make me feel AWFUL if I in anyway made this client feel insecure or worse yet get hurt.All your replies are appreciated I am feeling a bit less worried now. You all are great. ย ;D
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  34. wilson holistic centre:
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  35. Nu spring spa888:
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  36. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  39. Nu spring spa888:
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  40. wilson holistic centre:
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  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLily Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  45. DareDevil:
    SUNDAY SUPER LINEUP! ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  47. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
  50. wilson holistic centre:
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