Outcall should be cheaper?

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It is amazing to me the mindset of ppl who think they should get a discount if they line up friends at their house for massage. I mean, why would a therapist who can do massage at X amount of dollars per massage in the convenience of her shop, be expected to load up her table and supplies, use her gas and her mileage to go to clients for the same or even LESS money! An hour is still an hour of time no matter how many ppl you have! Ugh! I'm tired of them looking at me like I'm greedy for not 'jumping' at their generous offers! Ugh! Vent over...
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

I agree! lol

I always viewed things this way: in-office (i.e. you come to me) massage therapy is a form of healthcare. Outcall (i.e. I come to you) massage therapy is a luxury.*

Either way, having to pack my massage supplies into my truck, Google map someone's address, then drive there, set up, gather intake paperwork, etc, takes a lot more time than simply having someone come into my office. This means I have to schedule a MUCH larger block of time, during which I can't see other clients. Meanwhile, it's a convenience for them, not having to go anywhere, and thus I didn't feel guilty about charging more. (I charged $70/60 min in-office and $100/60 min outcall.)

Now, when I made an outcall, I encouraged couples to get massage back-to-back, and I'd offer a 10% discount for doing so. I worked out other group discounts for bridal showers and bachelorette parties or girls night in or whatever. Usually that discount was a little deeper, but I always made more per hour than my in-office fee. :)

As time went on, I was thankful that I had taken the time in the very beginning (before I got busy, and before I got put on the spot, faced with a decision) to go through each scenario (i.e. a housecall to do clothed table massage for a group of ladies, or a 6-hour gig on a Saturday to do chair massage for a family members at a wedding reception, or a back-to-back couple, etc. I figured in distance, traffic congestion, after-hours/weekends/holidays, clothed/unclothed (i.e. did I have to bring sheets?), table or chair, and a bunch of other factors, and I came up with a pricing schedule I was comfortable with. When you're comfortable with your pricing schedule, you get this great "settled" feeling, a feeling like now that that's taken care of, you can move forward on a solid foundation. When you've made your decisions ahead of time, you also radiate a subconscious confidence that others pick up on, and you get a lot less "balking" at prices. Either they pay it or they don't. They'll either accept it without batting an eye, or they'll pass and move on but still respect you and your work. :)

Just my ramblings

*Of course, things change a little when considering someone with mobility issues, handicaps, etc.
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

I DO discount for a client that I do outcalls for... *BUT* guess what? She's a massage therapist who has her own table, sheets, music, etc all prepared for me. All I do is show up with my hands and a little jar of cream and off we go!

Maybe if someone starts taking a little attitude about outcall pricing, you could suggest that they invest in all the things that you have to haul around with you ;).
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

JaeMarie said:
I DO discount for a client that I do outcalls for... *BUT* guess what? She's a massage therapist who has her own table, sheets, music, etc all prepared for me. All I do is show up with my hands and a little jar of cream and off we go!

Maybe if someone starts taking a little attitude about outcall pricing, you could suggest that they invest in all the things that you have to haul around with you ;).

For most situations, though, this would still not compensate for the time spent that could have gone to another client (or two).

We don't do outcalls. Hubby started out doing solely outcalls, and when we rented that little room for him, he nearly wept in gratitude that we'd reached that seforum.xxxe. He's not being lazy in not wanting to cart his table and stuff all over; he just has lots of "issues in the tissues" himself, and it was causing him much grief. It's not good for the therapist to be fighting muscle spasms when about to go into a session! :shock:
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

I'm really more upset at myself. I have a client who schedules with me once every 3 months and I agreed on an outcall at a very low rate anyway, and then I got paid even less because she paid what she was used to paying in office which means I went to her house at no extra charge for my gas or time. I learned my lesson...

And I guess what really gets me is after years of turning down outcalls due to things like this, I went against my better judgement and did it anyway.
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

Outcalls are about convenience, not luxury.

As a basic rule of economics, convenience carries a premium. You can buy milk at 7-11-- very convenient -- vs. the supermarket. The price difference has nothing to do with luxury.

What your potential clients have figured out, which many MTs touch on, is that lining up a day of clients at THEIR location, might actually be more convenient and more profitable for you, hence their push for a discount.

The economy is rife with examples where bulk purchase and advance bookings of perishable commodities -- hotels, airline seats, MTs time -- command discounts.

If you can fill your book at your place, you have no incentive to discount outcalls. But if someone can deliver 5 - 6 appts, well in advance, then you might find it worth the discount, much like booking a series of 10 gets you 2 free...
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

TouchofGrace said:
It is amazing to me the mindset of ppl who think they should get a discount if they line up friends at their house for massage. I mean, why would a therapist who can do massage at X amount of dollars per massage in the convenience of her shop, be expected to load up her table and supplies, use her gas and her mileage to go to clients for the same or even LESS money! An hour is still an hour of time no matter how many ppl you have! Ugh! I'm tired of them looking at me like I'm greedy for not 'jumping' at their generous offers! Ugh! Vent over...

My coworker had this happen this week. She had agreed to do chairs at a couples seminar. When she told the organizer her price, the organizer wanted to bargain over it. She was going to charge $10 per chair massage, (lasting 10-15 mins each) and if couples wanted them, she would give them each one for $15 for both. The organizer wanted her to charge $5 for a 15 min. chair! There were a couple hundred people there both days, my coworker wanted to be nice but she asked me what I thought and I told her she shouldn't lower the charge to $5. She didn't.
 
Outcall should be cheaper?

I completely agree. There is a convenience fee. I have a mobile massage business. I charge $80/hr in my private practice and I charge $95/hr for an outcall. This is actually a very fair rate. However, there is something to be said about volume. If you can get several hours at once I may be inclinced to do it for the price of an incall. But an outcall should never be cheaper than an incall.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  39. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  40. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  46. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  48. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  49. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  50. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
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