Paradis - video

[Ultra-geek]

Some cracking bits of photography..
But i was waiting for something to happen...like the music building up to something monumental......but nothing

 

[SmartyPants]

I wondered the same thing.....I figured it was when I saw the broken tricycle in the pile of rubbish

 

[Batsukh B]

But its a side you have to work really hard to show in this light.. Its contrived to be as pessimistic as possible.

 

[Tango & Amber]

I would imagine so.. Assumed the pretty woman shot was photoshopped.

 

[Corey L]

Give's me memories of seforum.xxxgering back to SBH at 7am after a solid session at Hollywood with some of the scenes.
Interesting video!

 

[the Christian]

that's sort of the point, i wouldn't bother

 

[fishmoo]

Well he coulda shown somebody puking, an LB flashing , a fight, someone peeing in the old Sukhathai sight. That would have been even more negative.....and real.

 

[Fayde]

more negative maybe but less judgemental....my point all along...we all know there are massive negatives to the place...what red light district doesn't have them...but to sneer through a lens to make a point is something I don't care for....

 

[xXaliciaXx]

Interesting clip, I like it

 

[eastwoods]

This was nothing at all like Bangla....There was no drugs..

 

[xcake_eater123]

Read a whole load of posts then watched the video, Hmmm? what can i say than what a waste of my time? its not good, it doesn't get across any message well and as Deano said, yep seen these things the world over every saturday night, so fecking what? whats the point? sorry pal not scored anything with me. There is so much more that could have been done, depending on your initial agenda, scored a zero on the goodometer.

 

[fly with me:)]

Yep...

I think the whole dilemma for the budding 'artiste' is that they are taught that they have to give a 'message' to everyone.
The education system, well all Systems really, teach that there has to be a Theme or a Message in all that is creative, and if the creator of something didnt know it himself, then the student has to find at least one message anyway.
The next step for Systems is to cull out anything wherein the message was not 'appropriate' or 'positive' or 'soul searching'.
The responsible Scan artiste in this case felt obliged to render some sort of message, when in fact anyone who knows these places in Thailand really knows what Van Morrison once sang very well.... "It just is."
In this light I can see Nelsons point, but maybe I to am trying to find a reason or message in his views that doesnt exist.
Living here in Patong, now for a while, I just see it as "It just is".
I dont see someone who works that street, or who consumes on that street as trying to convey anything....it just is.
The last thing I would care to do is show them as sad, empty, anything.
Bangla is something people just do for a period of time, and the Thais accept that better than any gawker or somebody skilled with a camera....
It just is.
Im pretty sure thats how my closest Thai friends see it, anyway....

 

[jd spoonworthy]

but there's no view from nowhere on this

just as 'do gooders' may have axes to grind / judgements to make / sermons to preach, mongers have a conscience to protect or just avoid

fun and games aside if people can't see / admit its an incredibly sad place they are blind or being dishoest with themselves

as to 'Thais' accepting its a place some people spend some time, that's a very wide brush and incorrect imho

 

[saurav]

I had the feeling of "God I hope I don't show up in this".

But I liked it. Made me feel like shit. ......Schadenfreude.........Is that pretentious?

See you in Hell fellers. 555

 

[Dr. Patrick V. Suglia]

So do you actually have a view and will you take the time to justify it and demonstrate your point?

 

[27.lyn]

i thought i'd made it clear in my view its essentially a very sad place - does that even need to be justified? the counter view is preposterous unless you're aware of some life affirming quality i've missed?

 

[itsme.green]

Some people are capable of accepting things that exist as simply that , without projecting an emotional value.

So is your board name meant to be ironic or something?

 

[Pumpkin DBAB]

we all project things on what we observe hence my no view from no where comment (and your confusion as to my board name:mdr

however 'it just is' is a cop out when attacking someone else's presentation (however objectionable that presentation may be)

it also devalues the lives of those involved

would you say 'it just is' if a daughter of yours wanted to pursue that particular life?

and the sweeping idea that Thais themselves don't judge those who work there is utterly false

 

[DLS]

I am not attacking anyones "presentation" ( by that do you mean the vid or someones representation?). My first post clearly stated the contrary.
"It just is" is hardly an indicator of an emotional stance.
I would suggest it is you who by describing Bangla as "sad" attempts to "devalue the lives of those involved."
Go and ask the people there if they want you to pity them.
Your post just pangs of the views of the sanctimonious...
A further example of your emotive stance is to bring up my daughter. WTF does she have to do with a video of Bangla???

 

[HouseMD]

but if your daughter did, it would just be something she did for a period of time and you would accept it as 'it just is'?

or would you 'project emotional value' on to that situation?