Chat POLL & Discussion - should Canada have the right to bear arms (for self defense)?

Do you think we should allow the right to carry firearms in Canada?

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...and Nobel prizes are awarded from Sweden so itโ€™s totally irrelevant to a narrative on systemic racism within the US
You either didn't understand the point I was making, or you didn't look at the charts you just shared. Maybe both. Your reaction to my example citing the Nobel prizes shows you might not have the capacity to understand.

I did not question that racial disparity exists. I absolutely agree it does. I even furnished some examples. But disparities are not proof of systemic racism.. Blacks are over represented in the NBA and track and field, is that proof of racism? Men are over represented in the plumbing trade and jails. Predujice?

You have not demonstrated how blacks being under represented in high paying jobs is proof of racism in any way, let alone of a systemic variety.

Let me make it even clearer, Universities in the U.S. have federal funding tied to racial quotas. That is, they get money if they fill a certain number of student and faculty spots with black people. This misguided policy is almost impossible for elite schools to meet in order to secure their funding. They have to go looking for candidates and in many cases they "fudge" the admission and employment requirements-awarding points for "life experience"- in order to get those black people into their institutions. Clearly, it's not racism at work there. The question is, why is it difficult to find those candidates, even when they have every reason to want them?
 
You either didn't understand the point I was making, or you didn't look at the charts you just shared. Maybe both. Your reaction to my example citing the Nobel prizes shows you might not have the capacity to understand.

I did not question that racial disparity exists. I absolutely agree it does. I even furnished some examples. But disparities are not proof of systemic racism.. Blacks are over represented in the NBA and track and field, is that proof of racism? Men are over represented in the plumbing trade and jails. Predujice?

You have not demonstrated how blacks being under represented in high paying jobs is proof of racism in any way, let alone of a systemic variety.

Let me make it even clearer, Universities in the U.S. have federal funding tied to racial quotas. That is, they get money if they fill a certain number of student and faculty spots with black people. This misguided policy is almost impossible for elite schools to meet in order to secure their funding. They have to go looking for candidates and in many cases they "fudge" the admission and employment requirements-awarding points for "life experience"- in order to get those black people into their institutions. Clearly, it's not racism at work there. The question is, why is it difficult to find those candidates, even when they have every reason to want them?
The US has systemic racism that forces ethnic groups into communities that are segregated from each other. Whites donโ€™t want to live next to blacks.

the US has a history of this with housing projects and real estate practises by denying blacks access to housing

Schools are funded from property taxes of their respective district. If you live in a wealthier neighborhood and pay more property taxes you get better schools and better education for your kids

If you are a black youth growing up in a poor neighbourhood with poor schooling you donโ€™t see the way out of poverty through studying. They often see the way out through sports (basketball or football) or music.

College is expensive, so they want the free ride if they go and sports are the way to achieve it. Thatโ€™s because, they canโ€™t afford college otherwise. They donโ€™t see the path to a middle class pay check to afford $100k in student debt. Your elite schools arenโ€™t going to find a pool of black kids unless they are offering scholarships to them (usually in sport)

many blacks from these neighborhoods (some are violent ones) will end up with a poor education, little Employment prospects beyond minimum wage and stuck in poverty. If they feel their situation is desperate then they can turn to crime. A bleak situation will sustain itself

Itโ€™s all parts of a larger system to deny blacks the same opportunities as whites.
 
A weapon in untrained hands is way more dangerous than in untrained hands. Who wants thousands of weapons in untrained hands out there??

Then, there is the willingness to use the weapon for its intended purpose. Unlike what you see in entertainment, a weapon's primary purpose is to kill. If you pull a gun on someone, you better be damned ready to put two bullets centre mass on your target. All that stuff about shooting in the arm or leg is bullshit. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a position where my gun was taken from me due to my hesitation and then used on me or my loved ones.
 
I completed the gun safety course in Canada when I was 14 (earliest age you can take the course) and I owned my first rifle by age 15. One of my older brother's gave me his rifle as he didn't want it anymore. Eventually I gave it to one of my other brothers who currently owns 4 rifles I believe. One of my cousins use to have a cabinet that was made in the form of a wagon wheel and he had it full of rifles and I believe he owned two hand guns.

You may be able to tell I didn't grow up in the city, where I grew up getting your gun safety course was just one of those rites of passage just like getting your drivers license at 16 (back then there was no graduated licensing, you either had a license or you didn't) and then liquor ID at 19. It really wasn't a big deal, unless you were one of the ones who failed the course then you would be ridiculed by your peers. My friends and I use to go out hunting when we were that age which to some people I know in the city think it was mad that 14 year olds were carrying rifles and going hunting.
I was firing my first rifle when I was 13 and I lived in the city. Knowing how to use a gun and knowing about gun safety still isn't the same thing as "bearing arms". Heck, owning guns isn't the same thing as bearing arms. I have no issue with target shooting and though I don't like hunting I can understand it. Still not the same as bearing arms IMO. Bearing arms as an expression to me means BEING armed, and I certainly don't want to live in a world where people walk around armed.

Side note, I love shooting rifles. Shotguns are a different story as I never got the hang of managing the kick back. Would love to shoot a handgun one day though.
 
I was firing my first rifle when I was 13 and I lived in the city. Knowing how to use a gun and knowing about gun safety still isn't the same thing as "bearing arms". Heck, owning guns isn't the same thing as bearing arms. I have no issue with target shooting and though I don't like hunting I can understand it. Still not the same as bearing arms IMO. Bearing arms as an expression to me means BEING armed, and I certainly don't want to live in a world where people walk around armed.

Side note, I love shooting rifles. Shotguns are a different story as I never got the hang of managing the kick back. Would love to shoot a handgun one day though.
Hunting as a means to provide food is fine. Itโ€™s a bit of a task to be picking birdshot out of the duck meat you are eating for dinner though. Venison (deer) is salty so it makes great sausage. I hate trophy hunters that get their jollies out of killing an animal for nothing though.
 


...and Nobel prizes are awarded from Sweden so itโ€™s totally irrelevant to a narrative on systemic racism within the US
imagine still thinking systemic racism exists in the West
 
The US has systemic racism that forces ethnic groups into communities that are segregated from each other. Whites donโ€™t want to live next to blacks.

the US has a history of this with housing projects and real estate practises by denying blacks access to housing

Schools are funded from property taxes of their respective district. If you live in a wealthier neighborhood and pay more property taxes you get better schools and better education for your kids

If you are a black youth growing up in a poor neighbourhood with poor schooling you donโ€™t see the way out of poverty through studying. They often see the way out through sports (basketball or football) or music.

College is expensive, so they want the free ride if they go and sports are the way to achieve it. Thatโ€™s because, they canโ€™t afford college otherwise. They donโ€™t see the path to a middle class pay check to afford $100k in student debt. Your elite schools arenโ€™t going to find a pool of black kids unless they are offering scholarships to them (usually in sport)

many blacks from these neighborhoods (some are violent ones) will end up with a poor education, little Employment prospects beyond minimum wage and stuck in poverty. If they feel their situation is desperate then they can turn to crime. A bleak situation will sustain itself

Itโ€™s all parts of a larger system to deny blacks the same opportunities as whites.

You continue to evade the point I'm making. You are simply presenting evidence of different racial outcomes. Saying systemic racism exists because there are differences between racial groups proves nothing. Again, I can point to plenty of outcomes that vary according to race. Why do asians as a group tend to do better in school? Why do Kenyans dominate long distance running? When given absolute freedom to choose, why do women on average choose nurturing or "people" centered careers vs STEM fields?

Show me how ethnic groups "forced" to segregate from whites? Is there a law you can point to? What is the mechanism by which this is happening? If you can do that, I'm sure the majority of society would absolutely back getting rid of such a law. But it doesn't exist, and hasn't for about 60 years.

Please don't take this as a personal attack, but it's clear you haven't looked very deeply into this subject. If you did, you would find there are contradictions that expose the lie of systemic racism. Why is black home ownership in the U.S. the lowest now since the 50s? Are we more racist now than we were then? Why do black immigrants to the U.S. consistently economically outperform native African Americans whose families have been here for generations? Are the immigrants not subject to the same "systemic racism"?
 
You continue to evade the point I'm making. You are simply presenting evidence of different racial outcomes. Saying systemic racism exists because there are differences between racial groups proves nothing. Again, I can point to plenty of outcomes that vary according to race. Why do asians as a group tend to do better in school? Why do Kenyans dominate long distance running? When given absolute freedom to choose, why do women on average choose nurturing or "people" centered careers vs STEM fields?

Show me how ethnic groups "forced" to segregate from whites? Is there a law you can point to? What is the mechanism by which this is happening? If you can do that, I'm sure the majority of society would absolutely back getting rid of such a law. But it doesn't exist, and hasn't for about 60 years.

Please don't take this as a personal attack, but it's clear you haven't looked very deeply into this subject. If you did, you would find there are contradictions that expose the lie of systemic racism. Why is black home ownership in the U.S. the lowest now since the 50s? Are we more racist now than we were then? Why do black immigrants to the U.S. consistently economically outperform native African Americans whose families have been here for generations? Are the immigrants not subject to the same "systemic racism"?

You guys both have good points. I lean towards your line of thinking but I kinda get some of his points too... chicken and egg thing.
 
You guys both have good points. I lean towards your line of thinking but I kinda get some of his points too... chicken and egg thing.

I think what makes people feel "stuck" is that they confuse the argument I'm making with a claim that there's no racism. That isn't what I'm saying. Of course racism still does exist, we so too much of it in life and in this forum for that matter. But the argument for the existence of "systemic" racism is a bad one. The strongest proponents for its existence can't even define it. In fact recently, there was a CBC host who declared that a sure fire way you know you're dealing with a racist is if they ask you to define what systemic racism is. With an attitude like that, discussion is difficult.
 
I think what makes people feel "stuck" is that they confuse the argument I'm making with a claim that there's no racism. That isn't what I'm saying. Of course racism still does exist, we so too much of it in life and in this forum for that matter. But the argument for the existence of "systemic" racism is a bad one. The strongest proponents for its existence can't even define it. In fact recently, there was a CBC host who declared that a sure fire way you know you're dealing with a racist is if they ask you to define what systemic racism is. With an attitude like that, discussion is difficult.

Maybe you guys have different interpretations for "systemic"? How do you define it?
 
It is not difficult to define, because we had it. Jim Crow laws whereby people could not drink from the same water fountains, join the same clubs, live in certain part of town, even get hired for jobs. Until those laws were repealed, many jurisdictions in the U.S. allowed discrimination based on race. That does not exist any longer. It was systemic racism, built into the system of institutions and governments.

I don't want to speak for the other side, but usually what you get from them if you ask them for a a definition of systemic racism is something like what Hornet has been providing--examples of different outcomes by race. Racism may certainly be a factor in those examples--I've never denied that--but it is not systemic and built into any law or organization. We live in a time where that has (thank goodness), been made illegal. Though racism can be a factor in different outcomes for race, I maintain it is not anything like the dominant factor any longer and has not been for decades at this point. There are other very good reasons for why the black population is not progressing as quickly as other groups. Those genuinely interested in this, should listen or read to the work of people like Shelby Steele, John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes and of course, Thomas Sowell.
 
We ALREADY have the right, nobody said we didn't ???

We do? Anyways, in case it wasn't clear, I meant carrying firearms in public for self defense purposes (like they do in some states)...
 
It is not difficult to define, because we had it. Jim Crow laws whereby people could not drink from the same water fountains, join the same clubs, live in certain part of town, even get hired for jobs. Until those laws were repealed, many jurisdictions in the U.S. allowed discrimination based on race. That does not exist any longer. It was systemic racism, built into the system of institutions and governments.

I don't want to speak for the other side, but usually what you get from them if you ask them for a a definition of systemic racism is something like what Hornet has been providing--examples of different outcomes by race. Racism may certainly be a factor in those examples--I've never denied that--but it is not systemic and built into any law or organization. We live in a time where that has (thank goodness), been made illegal. Though racism can be a factor in different outcomes for race, I maintain it is not anything like the dominant factor any longer and has not been for decades at this point. There are other very good reasons for why the black population is not progressing as quickly as other groups. Those genuinely interested in this, should listen or read to the work of people like Shelby Steele, John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes and of course, Thomas Sowell.

Ok, so that's how you view it...others may view it differently. Regardless, I do think there's confusion around it.


 
Ok, so that's how you view it...others may view it differently. Regardless, I do think there's confusion around it.


Thank you for sharing those articles. The arguments in them are quite familiar to me.

I believe in steel manning an opposing argument. That means critiquing an argument in its strongest form, not its weakest. The strongest form of the argument for systemic racism posits-- as your article says-- a "racist society" without conscious racists. That is a horrible idea. When you separate racism from conscious will, you take away all meaning from the concept and more importantly, all individual responsibility. People repeat the phrase "systemic racism without reflecting, but I think they're actuall thinking of endemic racism. Of course that exists, more in some segments of society than others. The difference is a big one. Racism is in people, not nebulous institutions
 
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is with a good guy with a gun.

Legal permits to carry handguns in public? Yikes! Scary thought.

Home protection? I thought everyone already had their $200 SKS under their beds, or at least a short barrelled 12 gauge.
 
I love guns as a sport in a safe firing range and well regulated, but fuck the right to bear arms. This thinking is rooted in the notion of the law of retaliation, or more commonly known as "an eye for an eye".

This is savage as it is primal. And you Neanderthals who are in favor of it are barbarous as you are obscene.
 
The US has systemic racism that forces ethnic groups into communities that are segregated from each other. Whites donโ€™t want to live next to blacks.

the US has a history of this with housing projects and real estate practises by denying blacks access to housing

Schools are funded from property taxes of their respective district. If you live in a wealthier neighborhood and pay more property taxes you get better schools and better education for your kids

If you are a black youth growing up in a poor neighbourhood with poor schooling you donโ€™t see the way out of poverty through studying. They often see the way out through sports (basketball or football) or music.

College is expensive, so they want the free ride if they go and sports are the way to achieve it. Thatโ€™s because, they canโ€™t afford college otherwise. They donโ€™t see the path to a middle class pay check to afford $100k in student debt. Your elite schools arenโ€™t going to find a pool of black kids unless they are offering scholarships to them (usually in sport)

many blacks from these neighborhoods (some are violent ones) will end up with a poor education, little Employment prospects beyond minimum wage and stuck in poverty. If they feel their situation is desperate then they can turn to crime. A bleak situation will sustain itself

Itโ€™s all parts of a larger system to deny blacks the same opportunities as whites.

sy barite is not worth arguing with, he is incapable of having good faith discussions.
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  19. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy & Nayla are here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  20. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 30โ€™s open mind with 36 DD and young slime Sophia 30โ€™s, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  21. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beauti
  22. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining.
  23. Eva Jaymini Care (Prev Anna at Aqua Blue Scarboro:
    Are you looking for amazing massage? ๐Ÿ‘„ Busty EVA is available on Sunday ๐Ÿ‘„ AKA Anna from Aqua Blue Spa 114 Anaconda Scarboro ๐Ÿ‘„ Visit Etobicoke and have an amazing XXX time โ˜Ž๏ธ 4167-354-2009
  24. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Saturday November 9, 2024, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿ˜, Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ, Lucy โค๏ธ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  25. Eva Jaymini Care (Prev Anna at Aqua Blue Scarboro:
    Are you horny? ๐Ÿ‘„ EVA is available on Friday night ๐Ÿ‘„ AKA Anna from Aqua Blue Spa 114 Anaconda Scarboro ๐Ÿ‘„ Visit Etobicoke and have an amazing XXX time โ˜Ž๏ธ 4167-354-2009
  26. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Fri ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  27. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa today has 3 girls today: ADA (11:30am-9pm): is a taller girl from Korea with a pretty face, slim with a big booty. She has good massage, can do bbj and cim. *New Girl LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin, slim 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups & long black hair. Great face AND figure, your viagra
  28. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa @ โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty Canadian ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markhamโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  29. DONSHIVA:
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  30. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  31. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  32. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„New young girl Tiffanyis very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,๐Ÿ’„Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen so popular,,Amy is long hair Vietnamese can do everything what you like๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘™,come to try๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿท๐ŸทHave nice weekend
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MOON, SABHA, MALIYA, ASHA, NISHA, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    Sultry Nympho Susan is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Susan & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  35. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Friday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & LILY. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. LILY is slim, elegant
  36. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Fri ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young new pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body,Young cute Summer 30โ€™s slime ,sweet GFE Coco and sexy naughty Tina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide๐Ÿ˜˜ Nice girl Luna is joining.
  40. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  41. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Nana are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  42. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Sexy Skinny Spinner Body โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along Sasa Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Lvy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy & Nayla are here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services.
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 36DD boobs
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