Review Pricing, Caveat Emptor

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Lately, some ads are showing up on Kijiji massage and Leolist massage where the posters are hoping that by posting a higher price it will grab the attention of some clients.

IMO, these ones provide no particular reason for the above average fees. Examples, one on Centre Street North at $100/hr. Home based Edgemont area provider at $90/hr. Therapy skills are sub-standard, nothing to get excited about. In comparison, one of the home based settings in the Hamptons has several therapists with far better skills at $70/hr. And there is no shortage of therapists at the $80/hr mark. If a spa offers a very high end space, and ambience, or an incredible therapist known for their healing expertise, much higher fees are justifiable, otherwise it is just another gimmick.

These new prices in post covid era are ways to get their ads to stand out, with the hope of drawing in new suckers. Caveat Emptor.

Now on LL, a recent masseuse posted an ad with little information seeking up to $800/hr. Not a typo . And there was some male therapist on Kijjji with an ad for $500/hr, then modified to $200/hr for therapeutic massage.

Anyone has the right to ask whatever price they feel they are worth, and there will always be a sucker who will pay it. But it is fun to watch these trends. Several decades ago, in the fine city of Toronto, for about 2 years there was a barrage of ads in the alternate weekly Hour Magazine advertising FS ladies at $200 per encounter. The ads were carefully worded to influence people to believe that for anything less you were likely catching a disease. The going rate at that time was considerably less.

When the total experience is superior, higher prices are always justifiable. However, in the absence of any key differentiators in services, the higher price is a marketing gimmick, and a wallet grab.



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Nothing wrong with higher prices if the setting is in a more expensive environment, like in a hotel or resort spa, with many more amenities, or if the therapist has some exceptional credentials. But when they offer the most basic to sub par massage, it is not justifiable. Buyer beware is the code. If people enjoy wasting their funds, so be it. Mostly, they target older men who they consider an easier prey.
 
Agreed, I am willing to pay a little more if it comes with an added experience or setting, however I have a hard time with any home based provider charging more than 80/h for the massage part even if it comes with an RMT receipt.
 
A providers cost of operation has nothing to do with what they charge, they ask a price generally based on the going market rate and it is up to the clients to decide if it is fair, Where they operate from or what their rent is bears no weight in the discussion. I am all for them saving a few bucks on room fees or operational costs, it tough enough for them to make a buck.
Do you ask your hair stylist to see there financials before a haircut to determine if the price is fair based on what they pay in rent and overhead? Or your grocer, mechanic, or any other business person.
I have been in some pretty shitty studios over the years and some pretty nice private residences for massage services over the years, was there for the massage, not the ambience.
 
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Not taking away from having shitty spas or lovely houses, but independent providers operating out of there home donโ€™t have to give a large cut of the hour fee to the owner. I know enough 60-70 dollar providers that provide a great massage in a lovely atmosphere to go after some of these 90-100/hr providers. Just my personal opinion.
 
Not taking away from having shitty spas or lovely houses, but independent providers operating out of there home donโ€™t have to give a large cut of the hour fee to the owner. I know enough 60-70 dollar providers that provide a great massage in a lovely atmosphere to go after some of these 90-100/hr providers. Just my personal opinion.

I'm sorta new to this. Looking for my first experience with extras. Any recommendations?
 
I'm sorta new to this. Looking for my first experience with extras. Any recommendations?
Stick to the known things for a first experience, browse through the reviews here and find somebody with good reviews, stay away from any review marked YMMV in case it doesnโ€™t turn out the way you want. Iโ€™d also suggest either a well reviewed AMP/providers from here, or one of the advertising providers from caf or leo for a first time. Good luck and happy hunting! Let us know how it goes.
 
Stick to the known things for a first experience, browse through the reviews here and find somebody with good reviews, stay away from any review marked YMMV in case it doesnโ€™t turn out the way you want. Iโ€™d also suggest either a well reviewed AMP/providers from here, or one of the advertising providers from caf or leo for a first time. Good luck and happy hunting! Let us know how it goes.

Usually YMMV means there is no pre-set menu like at AMPs. But imho, the YMMV ladies are where you find the best experiences. Because it requires creating human relationships. So they are not offering FS, 9 or 10 times every day.


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Agreed AB, Iโ€™m all about the YMMV and finding gems now, was just saying for his first foray into the hobby he might not want to go to a lady that doesnโ€™t have a set menu in case it doesnโ€™t fit what he is looking for his first time.
 
Usually YMMV means there is no pre-set menu like at AMPs. But imho, the YMMV ladies are where you find the best experiences. Because it requires creating human relationships. So they are not offering FS, 9 or 10 times every day.


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Thanks for the advice both of you. I made a CAF account and am doing some research. I keep hearing about a place called Elysium. Not showing up on Google, have you heard of it? Where is it? I also keep seeing random 4 character numbers associated with some girls. How do I search these? I am guessing they are ID numbers for some profile. Sorry for all the questions. Very much appreciated.
 
Iโ€™ve never been to Elysian, but Iโ€™m pretty sure itโ€™s down by the Blackfoot diner on 9 Ave. The 4 digit numbers you see are the last 4 digits of a girls phone number to help differentiate them. It helps with finding ads because many of the AMP girls use the same generic English names
 
Just a little caution about Leo List
80 % of the pictures of the ladies are FAKE .
There are a lot of Scammers on Leo List . They short change you on your time and do not deliver what is promised .
Best check the reviews. Or do what I do. Just walk away when you see she is not as per photo . Not as Advertised
Sometimes the ladies as for deposit. NEVER NEVER send them a deposit . Just go on to the next one
Oh and one more thing. Do not go to KGirl
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FLOWER โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Markham ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong, 9PMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  38. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St, Vaughan ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  42. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  43. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young New Tight Korean Butt Yumi working with Sexy Young Sweet Summer and Sensual & Pleasing Busty Boobs Coco today. Call or text 647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธโœ…โœ…
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Molly 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young flirty Ivy with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and cute GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. LINA (12:30pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & HANA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. HANA is slim
  49. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, PAOLA, AMMU, MONIKA, ANNA, MEGAN, ANAYA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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