Prolapsed Disc Or Not ???

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Hi all,
I'll try & make this short as possible.

14 months ago i woke up with a burning sensation down my left arm tricep area and had pins & needles in my little & ring finger,i kept wanting to stretch my arm.Dr said i had a prolapsed disc.After sending me physio hospital etc i was discharged.The Pins & needles have disappeared now but i've noticed my shoulder cracks & pops a lot now. I've noticed that the pain comes back around the middle end of my working week but disappears when i have a few days off.I've been holding under my left arm rib area when it gets bad and noticed that if i press on my ribs/near bottom of my shoulder blade area i feel pain.It comes on more during the working week and makes it uncomfortable for me to sleep on my left side.

I've been back to the musculoskeletal clinic at my dr's today and mentioned this pain but all i get is its defiantly your disc in your neck,even though i've never had any pain there!!.He did a little work on 1 of my ribs and cracked my neck a few times which did set off the pins & needles in my arm. He then told me i wouldn't need to go back,which has really annoyed me as i've still got this pain!!.

I've had no scans at the hospital it just feels like im going around in circles.I know my condition doesn't seem as extreme as some i've read on here any advice??? I was going to leave in 2-3 weeks and hope what work he did on my rib today helps before deciding what to do.
 
Hi

If your pain distribution looks anything like A or B below, it could be possible that you have trigger points in the latissimus dorsi. If so, it will be very tender on palpation where X marks the spot, and radiate down the arm to the hand.

This type of problem responds well to acupuncture, massage and stretching
 
Thanks for that I'd say A or B. However I can do pull ups etc and it causes no pain to my lats?? I mainly feel it when I'm trying to sleep or sitting down. I thought it could have been my serratus anterior but the Dr said that would cause me to have winged shoulder blades?

I'm going to give it a few weeks and see if it gets any better not holding out much as it's hurting at the moment then go back to the drs and ask to see another musculoskeletal specialist.
 
If the neck manipulating (cracking) bought on your neurological symptoms into your hand then

A) The practitioner should have checked this and not performed the manipulation
B) Have you been checked/tested/assessed for thoracic outlet syndrome
C) Did you not find out the results of the scans?
 
Hi all, I'll try & make this short as possible.
14 months ago i woke up with a burning sensation down my left arm tricep area and had pins & needles in my little & ring finger,i kept wanting to stretch my arm.Dr said i had a prolapsed disc.After sending me physio hospital etc i was discharged.The Pins & needles have disappeared now but i've noticed my shoulder cracks & pops a lot now. I've noticed that the pain comes back around the middle end of my working week but disappears when i have a few days off.I've been holding under my left arm rib area when it gets bad and noticed that if i press on my ribs/near bottom of my shoulder blade area i feel pain.It comes on more during the working week and makes it uncomfortable for me to sleep on my left side. End quote))

Your symptoms sound similar to that of mine and BMW1 in his 'what's this twitching' thread, albeit his is after a lumber operation. I hope you don't mind me doing a little mail merging to save time.

BMW1 quote (((hi i've had 2 discectomys L4/L5 then 4 months ago i had L4/S1 and over the last couple of days i've noticed my finger twitching more and more, is this conected in anyway to the op, Quote from BMW

Stone, My experience tells me, that spine imbalance, disc prolapses, spsams and other 'C' & 'T' level spinal issues can cause the symptoms that you are experiencing, it need not be a perminant feature, so please donโ€™t worry. I last lost complete motive power and feeling in my right arm, hand and fingers 6 months ago, the 10th time, and once again, my Osteopath brought these senses back to me, by re-balancing my whole body and opening up my โ€˜Cโ€™ & โ€˜Tโ€™ spine regions and sternum, it took 2 months, but it worked again!

I have vertibral cracking on a daily basis and I find that it's when the vertabae stop opening and becomes stiff that I experience the worst of the pain! So I try to keep as active as posible to keep them open!

Your symptoms could well be caused by a prolapsed disc, but this does not mean it is a fixed feature going forward. It could also be impacted by muscular spasms in the C6,7,8 % T1 levels. Read link:

http://www.assh.org/Public/HandConditions/Pages/Numbness.aspx

Your end of the week symptom worsening, also suggests that this could also be a sign of stress, this as we all know, can make muscles stiffen up in the areas you are complaining of. A qualified phyisical therapist like Osteopaths, Chiropractors etc: would need to assess you to give you a better understanding of the mechanics of your condition.
Loads of different therapists can be found on this excellent forum and they are well worth the money!

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
Hi sorry for the delay in replying.
Well after i went to see the specialist at the doctors who tweaked my neck a little things are no better.Although im off work at the moment on hol for 2 weeks so my arms not in pain.I still find it difficult to sleep on my left side.I'm due back to work next week so i'll see if my arm gets gradually worse as the week goes on.

I've had no scans whatsoever or tests.All they seem to do is watch me stretching my arm etc.If it starts hurting again i'll be booking another appointment at the docs.All my doc said was take Paracetamol when it was hurting!! Paracetamol does hardly anything
 
As you said yourself Stone, the GP and Specialist have done nothing for you, please don't waste any more of your time with them, as they will probably just end up giving you stronger drugs. Find a good 'non invasive' Physical Thearapist in your area and try to stop the worst of this pain before it gets a hold.

Best wishes

SPINELF
 
I am a sports massage therapist and therefore bias toward my profession.
It does sound that there is radicular involvement but what massage can do is relax those muscles that the nerves travel through and effectively releasing the obstructions.

Thoracic Outlet syndrome does sound likely and massaging scalenes/ pec minor may help.

Does the clicking occur over the top of the scapula? If it does, then it may be levator scapula and quite common.

Hope things improve,

Alex Nielsen
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  36. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Sophie and Kiki, they are young, pretty and cute and the massage was very professional.
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  44. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (12pm-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim.
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, young pretty popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA, LINDA, LUNA, SHAYLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, JANVI, MONIKA, BELA, MONICA, MEGAN, JAZMINE, PREETI, PREET ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    TOP NOTCH WELLNESS​
    SUNNY , GABBY , LARISSA , KIKI , MICHELLE AND VANNA AT TOP NOTCH WELLNESS. ALL SUPERSTARS CALL OR TEXT 437-522-9961 TO BOOK
  49. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    BESTU WELLNESS​
    โ€ŠLORA , EMMAโ€Š , โ€ŠRACHEL , GIGI AT BestU WELLNESS. Lora and GiGi speaks English. CALL OR TEXT โ˜Ž๏ธ: (437) 830-0913 TO BOOK YOUR APPOINTMENT.
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