Recent Breast Implants

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I just got a call from a colleague of mine about working with a client who recently had breast implants. The only experience I have had with this was about two years ago when a hotel outcall client asked me not to use any deep pressure while working on the upper torso because she was still quite sensitive after having had her implants done.

Does anyone have any advice or suggestions with respect to working with someone who has had recent implants? Thanks in advance for your help.
 


Do you know how recent? 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months?? How recent the surgery was might make a difference in how you approach the massage.

Angie
 


Hey There,

Depending on what seforum.xxxe of recovery they are at and their own pain tolerance, massaging around the scared area CAN be good to prevent scare tissue from building up. Make sure they have their doctors OK on massage

This is not a breast massage, it is more of a scare and surrounding muscle massage, but if you are a male therapist, this may be to close for comfort, depending on your relationship with the client.

J
 


moogie303 said:
Do you know how recent? 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 6 months?? How recent the surgery was might make a difference in how you approach the massage.

Angie

Good question! I believe she had the surgery approximately two weeks ago. What would be the difference in the way that would approach working with someone who had breast implants two weeks ago vs. six weeks ago?
 


I almost always have a 4-week rule for working on people post-surgically (at least v near the incision). I'm not sure any more where I got that -- maybe Robyn will weigh in on this too.
 


I would go 6 weeks with doctors permission, and then even so, I would not apply any pressure to the back or even have her supine at all until the MD approves. You don't want her to blame you for screwing up her implants...

After the approval, I would make sure to raise the face cradle high enough to fully support her neck, then put a rolled towel under her breasts for her comfort, and since she is going to have the "torpedo syndrome" it may be uncomfortable for her to lay prone at all for a while.
 


Pandoras_Gift said:
I would go 6 weeks with doctors permission, and then even so, I would not apply any pressure to the back or even have her supine at all until the MD approves. You don't want her to blame you for screwing up her implants...

After the approval, I would make sure to raise the face cradle high enough to fully support her neck, then put a rolled towel under her breasts for her comfort, and since she is going to have the "torpedo syndrome" it may be uncomfortable for her to lay prone at all for a while.

I agree. We won't work on anyone until at least 6 wks post-surgery. Even then, only with MD's written authorization. I would also add that this is when body cushions come in handy. She's not going to want to lay on her stomach and have you push on her back any time soon.

After 6 wks, then I would recommend doing lymphatics to help clear the area. Also cross-fiber around the incision to reduce scar tissue build-up. Probably one of her big problems will be mid-back pain due to the increase in weight to the front.

Angie
 


BJB-LMP said:
-- maybe Robyn will weigh in on this too.

Happy to.
It, for me will be about 4-6 weeks post op. Unless you plan to treat her chest area as a local CX. Ex: she could have legs, side work etc. No work on pecs ant chest muscles, and no lying prone until tolerated.
Also depends on:
-whether implants are above or below the mucle
-location of incision(umbilicus, areolar, breast fold etc)
-how big they actually went compared to before surgery.(we have some tiny women getting 500+ cc implants which will cause their own pain with taut tissue)
-How well they heal.
With all sp Breast Augs I would use a rolled handtowel between and underneath their breasts while prone for comfort.
AFTER a scar has healed(post remodleing phase) it is ok and good to work the scar. Before that, could cause dehiscence(splitting apart).
Most closing sutures for breast augs are either vicryl, monocryl or PDS.
I've linked info for them from J&J. All have similar healing times(when absorbed completely). I would adhere to their guidelines so as not to interrupt the healing process. They all vary from 90-120 days.

http://www.jnjgateway.com/public/USENG/6923Coated_VICRYL_polyglactin_910_Suture.pdf

http://www.jnjgateway.com/public/USENG/6950MONOCRYL_poliglecaprone_25_Sterile_Synthetic_Absorbable_Suture.pdf

http://www.jnjgateway.com/public/USENG/7025PDS_II_polydioxanone_Suture_Dyed_and_Clear_Monofilament.pdf
 


nybor7 said:
BJB-LMP said:
-- maybe Robyn will weigh in on this too.

Happy to.
It, for me will be about 4-6 weeks post op. Unless you plan to treat her chest area as a local CX. Ex: she could have legs, side work etc. No work on pecs ant chest muscles, and no lying prone until tolerated.

It seems like the general consensus here is to wait at least 4-6 weeks. After reading all of these posts I called my colleague back and asked a few more questions. It turns out that this woman had her surgery 2 1/2 weeks ago and it most definitely was her doctor who recommended that that she receive massage on the scar tissue.

I would also appreciate it if you could please explain to me exactly what you mean by "local CX." The medical terminology references I checked had Cx as either an abbreviation for cervix or for chest x-ray film. Thanks.
 


I believe it's used in this instance as "Local Contraindication."
But I could be wrong... :roll:
 


wow - you are all so smart! the way you jumped right into this topic and shared all of that information was great! i was just eavesdropping on this but i wanted to tell you all how smart you are! :) it's great to have a community like this
amanda
 


maestra said:
I believe it's used in this instance as "Local Contraindication."
But I could be wrong... :roll:

Thanks! I think that you are probably correct. In the context that "local CX" was used, it makes sense that it would mean "Local Contraindication."

I don't recall ever seeing CX used as an abbreviation for contraindication and I would be curious to know the origin of this use. I just did another "Google" search, this time for "CX + Contraindication" and after taking a quick look at the sites that came up on the first page it looks like many of them discuss child birth issues and are using CX as an abbreviation for cervix.
 


livingwell said:
wow - you are all so smart! the way you jumped right into this topic and shared all of that information was great! i was just eavesdropping on this but i wanted to tell you all how smart you are! :) it's great to have a community like this
amanda

I echo your sentiments completely amanda. It is fantastic to have a community like this with so many knowledgeable massage therapists who are so willing to share such useful information with colleagues who are scattered all over the globe. 8)

One of the things that is so great about being a massage therapist, but at the same time so challenging is that there is always something new to learn. Perhaps if I got a call last year about working with someone who had breast implants I might have just said I didn't have enough experience and passed. Now that I have access to this wonderful MassagePlanetL resource I'm more open to working a bit out of my comfort zone and doing a little extra homework online to prepare for working with new clients.
 


Hi, yes CX was for contraindication. It was meant to be CI.
I am moving soon and putting in way too much OT..sorry, I was tired and trying to type as fast as my mind would allow.

Scar massage is BENEFICIAL...AFTER the remodeling phase.

Robyn


some info on seforum.xxxes of wound healing
http://www.medicaledu.com/phases.htm

http://www.breasthealthonline.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?tid=48926

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00175344

http://www.rehabpub.com/features/892001/3.asp
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  35. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
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