referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

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Hi!

I wasn't quite sure what to call this. I'm sure there have been threads about it before but am not sure how to look it up. I think I should be able to figure it out myself, but thought I would lean on the forum, if you don't mind!

I try to be very proactive about making sure clients are happy with their massage and feel like they're getting the care they need. Recently two very regular clients stopped coming unexpectedly, and I'm wanting to ask, without making them uncomfortable, whether (1) they feel they are getting the care they need with me, (2) they would like to be referred to someone different/more experienced/closer to them etc.

The way I first approached this was to email a "just checking in/how are you/if you would like to schedule I am happy to, but no pressure" email. Then they both rescheduled. But then they disappeared again. So now I would like to send something that helps me get feedback, and also suggests referrals if they are interested. I'm curious to find out how other people handle it. In person it's easier for me to ask, but in an email it seems like putting them on the spot/making them have to word things carefully etc, and phone seems even worse.

I'd prefer not to send my email with referrals already in it, as I think that suggests I don't believe in my work (I do). But you can tell me if that's all wrong. Some day I'll have a website with referrals already on it! (I have a list posted in my office.) I'm just trying to avoid awkwardness while getting constructive feedback and trying to make sure they get the care they need.

Sincerely,
me
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

A friendly email/newsletter is helpful, as is sending out postcards or notes from time to time. We do that, with a '$10 off your next session' postcard. But ultimately, I've found many people come and go. I've had many people that will come in once a week or twice monthly or whatever and then not come in for months. Then they'll suddenly call and start scheduling again. I have one that I'm expecting to hear from any day now, she'll start coming in around Christmas for a month or two and then I don't hear from her again for a long time. It may be a financial issue, it may be schedule conflicts, who knows? Not everyone will turn into a steady, regular client. The bunching up of appointments is something that happpens. I figure, other than sending a little note or email, there's not much I can do, if they're unable or unwilling to come in for awhile for some reason.
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

I agree with the previous post. I had one man who came several times a week for over a year, said it was the best treatment he had ever experienced. Then he met someone else and did not come back. Boy, did I feel jilted!!

I'd prefer not to send my email with referrals already in it, as I think that suggests I don't believe in my work (I do). But you can tell me if that's all wrong. Some day I'll have a website with referrals already on it!

Also, it might just be me being picky, but I think the word you want is "testimonials" not "referrals", especially if you are using it as a heading or on a website.
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

Same thing. Someone will come once every couple of weeks for a few months and then disappear. I think this is normal. I've also had someone schedule and not rebook. then a year goes by and they reschedule for 2 appts, then gone again even though she raved about the massage and has referred some friends. I assume she'll be back in her own time. she doesn't seem to want regular massage for maintenance, just a massage when she's got a current issue.

I just read this, found it interesting and there may be some things in here that would be helpful for you.
http://practitionersjourney.com/2008/04/how-to-design-the-ultimate-patient-booking-strategy/

oh and I would not refer a client to another practitioner unless the client requested it first or I thought I couldn't help the person anymore. It may just be that they don't get around to rebooking, in which case your email is a trigger, or they cannot afford it as often.
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

This is my first post to MassagePlanetL-I will post an intro soon...

Just a suggestion but you can always ask your client to rebook right after their appointment with you and give them $10 off their next massage. If they know that they will get $10 off their massages they will usually just go ahead a rebook at their appointments. Don't be afraid to ask your clients to rebook.

Ex: "Well Sue, after working on your today, I believe I have a better picture of what is going on with your shoulder. When (notice I said when not if) you book your next session with me, I will address those areas and focus on the underlying tissues..When you rebook today you get $10 off your next session."

Good luck,
Lara Rininger
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

Learner said:
... (1) they feel they are getting the care they need with me, (2) they would like to be referred to someone different/more experienced/closer to them etc. ...

I have been in practice for about 17 years. I cover this in my client's initial visit.

I let them know about how long it takes to see results, based on their condition. And, that if at any time they feel I am not the right person for them or need a referral for any reason, to never hesitate to let me know. I am continually referring clients here and there, as I live in a city with a lot of movement. I want the best for the client, and if they are travelling or moving, I want to make sure and try to find them someone to start with when they get "there".

That said, I am confident in my work, and a client rarely asks for a referral based on an issue with my work alone.

It's an easy way to practice (no worry in offending anyone), and you can also let the client know that you may consider referring them to someone else, if you feel you aren't getting the results they are looking for in the time frame you have both agreed on. It's a win-win. They know you care... and you will feel more confident with providing a referral if you end up needing to.

However, there is a certain ebb and flow to a practice and the clients therein. I have some people who come weekly and others who come every few years. Some only come for a while when they hurt, and then come back again, when they hurt again. Some only come when they have extra money. Some use me as their doctor when they don't want to go to the doctor. Some come once and never return.

So, don't worry too much. The economy is quite bad right now, and I figure that is causing a lot of pain in many clients pocketbooks. When you don't have much money, the tooth that lost the filling usually goes on hurting until an abcess occurs, no matter how much we, as health care practitioners, would like to see different.

And, if you want someone to check your work, just find a colleage to mentor you. That's easy, and you can trade that way. :)
 
referring people to other MTs/checking on my work

I know this was a long time ago, but I never thanked you for your excellent feedback, which actually helped me a lot. (Once I start writing it I tend to go on and one, which can make me hesitate to start it---sorry!)

That natural ebb and flow I've been getting used to, and you all described it very well, which was really helpful. MarionFM it is so funny how clients can gush and then disappear. I had a client reappear after 2 years, "That massage you gave me was amazing!" And eyesofblue I admire your confidence and clarity on it; I am trying some of that confidence on! Pueppi I stole your idea of saying it upfront, and it really works for me. I had hesitated about this because of the theory that the more confident you sound, the more trust people have in you, the more they relax, the faster the recovery, but I've found that it IS possible to say it without losing people's confidence. Thank you!

It's so smart to have people book in advance. Over Xmas people dropped off and it took them a while to resurface, but once they did they mostly resumed their schedules. I hadn't noticed this last year. So next year I will give them a big discount for the first massage of the year, if they book before New Year's!

I'm also trying to just open up communication so much that people never feel they can't tell me something: ("How's the body?" "I feel fine." "Fine? No aches or pains?" "I'm good!" "How's the hip?" "Oh it only hurts when I try to sleep.") In most cases, I want them to -expect- to be able to feel much better. ("But it's just age!" "Age is not a diagnosis!") ("How's the arm?" "Better!" "How much better on a scale of 1 to 10?")

A very effective MT recently said to me that they had NEVER referred anyone to another MT in their 10 years of practice. That impressed me. On one hand I wondered whether that could have been entirely fair (espec in the MT's earlier years); on the other I really admired the MTs "the buck stops here" mentality. It's a balance, right? Own your effectiveness, learn and learn, but don't waste the client's time.

Best best wishes and extreme though much belated thanks!
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PRIYA, AMMU, MONIKA, PAOLA, SASHA, AMANDA, SUMMER, ANGEL, ANGELINA, DIYA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Young sweet Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and new young pretty student Chloe 25โ€™s,fun sex Tina with curve body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be fulfilling
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CAMILLA, ELLA, KELLY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CAMILLA is from Mexico and Indiana, her father was Indian, her mom was Mexican & she's 1.57 tall with nice full melons. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approachable
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy Vietnamese โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Sophie works
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683/905.886.9993 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Hottie Hattie, Lovely Tina, Young Lori, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ** PICK OF THE DAY IS Hattie**
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday April 4, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ and Christina ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at (905) 479-6668 to book!
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