Refusing to pay your bar bill

[Nate[Coder]]

Was in the club last night and got a blow by blow account from a couple of girls my mate knows.:intello:

It would appear that the tattooed, vest and shirt wearing belligerent Kiwi did not have a problem with his bill, his mates had already paid and gone outside for smokes and drinks.

Problems started when a service girl asked if he wanted another drink and he bellowed that HE would tell them when he was ready. He was sat with his feet up, flip flops off, on a small bar facing the seforum.xxxe ( showing the bottoms of your feet is not a good thing here) and a doorman asked him to sit more respectfully. It was at this point that the KIWI picked up a chair and ran outside after the doorman. What happened after this the girls dont know as they remained inside but the definite opinion of them is that the Kiwi was a bad man and the doormen were only doing their job.

This is a shortened version of the story but for once the stickman appears to have bad intello on this one.

As a non Baccara lover who hates the padding I am not trying to defend the establishment at all but, fair is fair. The doormen have always been polite and frankly, non of them look particularly tasty so far as pugilism is concerned and I am a bit of a judge having run UK doors for a number of years in the past.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Putting your feet up is about the worst, most insulting thing you can do to somebody in LOS, bare feet or no bare feet. No wonder they tried to kick his ass!

 

[Angel Unaware]

555...sounds more like the kiwis I know....555

 

[fizixx]

i dont think its a polite thing to do full stop.... weather it be LOS or anywhere else... I find it disrespecting when someone points the dirty sloes of their shoes or even feet towards me.... Not a nice thing to do IMHO..

 

[Boo!]

Had I not read any books on Thai culture, I'd have no idea about any of this "feet" stuff. Back home, you can point your feet anyplace you want, without there being any meaning applied to/from where your feet are, or where they're pointing.

In Thailand, I "know" how you're supposed to sit on the ground, with your legs folded beneath you, but after ten minutes that hurts too much, and either I've got to stand up, find a chair, or unfold my feet and leave them pointing away from me. I've read that most Thai people realize that foreigners have no idea about any of this stuff.

99.9% of the time this happens, chances are it has nothing to do with the foreigner trying to insult anyone or anything, and everything to do with what he's spent all his life doing. Add this to "face" as two examples of how foreigners can get into trouble without having any idea as to why.

 

[Theo]

The way I understand it, the feet are the lowest part of the body, and therefore gesturing or pointing with them is unacceptable or offensive to Buddha.

Years ago, I had bought a small Buddha amulet on a street in Bangkok. When I went to put it in my pants pocket, the girl I was with told me, "No!" That pocket was "too close to my crotch", and that I should carry it in my shirt pocket close to my heart.

 

[JenVT]

Also, do not wear a Buddha amulet around your neck while having sex - you have to take it off and hang it someplace higher in the room. Very inconvenient. :beurk:

 

[savannah_rms]

Suppose that explains why girls are so often forgetting and leaving their amulet in my room! h:

 

[CEE LIVES !]

well, i dont really think Thai's should expect a farang to know that custom concerning feet and a polite mention shoudl do

having said that, i think putting your bare feet up on a table in any public place is a very rude thing to do in any country. who wants to see anyones dirty feet??

 

[A person you dont know]

Podophiliacs?

 

[Sex.See .]

But by condition they wouldn't think that way, at least initially. It would be like if you saw someone walking down the street with his finger buried 3 inches up his nose. Would you think, "gee maybe this guy is a foreigner and maybe in his country it's no big deal to walk around picking their noses"? Thais probably understand when it is a foreigner that makes that sort of gaffe, but by condition they would still see it as impolite.

 

[rockylad_75]

I would think...wow I am back on Lao...h:

Considered OK here to pick and blow the nose without a tissue anywhere, anytime...:info:

But you have to cover your mouth when using a toothpick..:info:

What the F is with that...:rules:

Man, it makes your head really hurt thinking about it sometimes:tuxout:

 

[savannah_rms]

If the head is high and the feet are low...then why is there a national sport where they proceed to kick fark out of each others head/body...h:

:tuxout:

 

[Ima LittLe Teapot]

Ahhh but you cant use your head to inflict a blow. As its the highest point of the body.............


But yes its a little weird!

 

[PeaceLoveHope <3]

5555 - That is just the enigma that is Thailand! And that's why we drink, so we don't have too much time on our hands trying to figure it out! :what:

 

[shebang]

5555555555 couldnt have said it better myself mate...... now wheres that beer, im starting to do my head in.....555:

 

[juli]

Unless it's a bar I know, I'm likely to pay for my drinks as I go.

On the other hand, if I was running a tab and they ripped me off? I'd probably just pay the bill and never go back there again. No sense in starting trouble over a few hundred baht.

J

 

[Shay ley ley]

a few times over the years i'am sure my bin has been padded, asked a few times about it , but never got anywhere, so to avoid any argument or scene i just paid up & never went back, there are many other bars i never had problems in, i guess just a few here & there, trying to scam someone new to their bar.

 

[use your brain]

Thats a new one on me I didn't know that

That is my 'what have you learned today' moment

Thanks

Best Wishes

Drew

 

[Kimmy V]

Good to hear his mates stayed outside while he was getting a kicking! 55555

As long as people are aware that if you are a little bit worse for wear and your bill may come as a bit of a shock, a sangsom here, a lady drink there etc That it really IMHO isn't worth the hassle here to start kicking off about it! Lessons learned, move on and go and enjoy your holiday!

Same problem in your own country you are able to talk about it, it may well not happen in your country! I don't know, but at least you can converse and the Police, if needed, will listen to both sides! (Unless you are in a RTA in Yorkshire but that is another story!!!)

Here, you (and your twenty mates) are out numbered, out gunned, out knifed already and you could get very seriously hurt. If the Police are called here, I think you know the outcome......They will either join in the kicking of you, arrest you, fine you, jail you etc........As drunk as you get, it isn't really worth it.

Best to wake up at your hotel with a headache, not the monkey house with noooo fuuuuuuckin teeth!

Enjoy! 555555