Sexual Discrimination in Massage Therapy

Having done my training a while ago, I am just now wanting to start out.

I have massaged mainly females so far, and 2 males. The 2 males were both pleased with the results (as were all the females). I have also been massaged by both male and female. I didn't have a problem at all with the male who did it, but he was a builder, and had very rough hands. Another male in the class was gay, had smoother skin and I think I would have enjoyed it more from him (I'm straight by the way). I just think that as long as a man's hands are smooth enough then a massage should be the same regardless of the sex of the therapist.

Right, as I am just starting out, I need to do my website, and also a Yellow Pages advert, and maybe leaflets/cards. Has anybody got any tips for a male therapist?

I know this is an old thread, but at the time lots of the male therapists replying where just starting out, so I'm hoping that their struggle and ultimate success will be of help to me too.
 
hi and love and light to you

i dont mind massaging men at all. but unfortunately i wouldnt ever be massaged by a man. not because i think theyre not good at their job but because id die of embarrassment at him looking at my body lol i know id be thinking all the time "oh god hes touching my flab!" or "i bet he thinks my stretch marks are nasty!" lol so its my problem, not a male masseurs.

namaste

Helenxxx
 
But it IS the male massage therapist's problem as it is them that doesn't get as many customers as a result.

Womens (and mens) bodies come in all shapes and sizes. When you massage men, are you judging their bodies or just getting on with your work?
 
I do think this is part of the problem, some people seem to think that the people treating them might be ogling them and thinking 'phwaor, they're sexy', for many, they really don't realise that we're just doing our job, as a doctor would, nothing sexual, no judgement, who cares if they have flab? Who cares if they are fit? Not us, well, ok, we care if they are fit in the being fit and healthy way and promoting that, but if they have a six pack or not really isn't what we're about.

I have friends who haven't been case studies, cause for them, having me touch them would feel uncomfortable, their choice, totally - it has to feel right. I also know quite a few women who would only be treated by men. I think men are sorely advantaged when someone is looking for a remedial or sports treatment, where women are advantaged for aromatherapy and pampering treatments. It does balance out in that respect, but all you can do your marketing wins out for you and that your clients are the open minded ones.
 
And Helen, have you never noticed that women are MUCH more judgmental than men about other women's bodies?!
 
A quetion sort of on this topic - if you are a 'straight' male therapist, would you not accept a male client if he told you he was gay? - Or if you are a 'straight' female therapist would you not accept a female client who told you she was lesbian?
 
Oooh good question!

As a gay male therapist, I accept all clients as I say to everyone, to me its just a body-part.
 
Don't know what someone's sexuality has got to do with it! I'm a "straight" male therapist but I've massaged both heterosexual and homosexual men. What's the difference?
 
There is a perception / worry / paranoia from some straight males that by being massage by another guy is somehow sexual and could be cause for jokes about sexuality. Or they are same they think that if the therapist is gay they will obviously fancy them or something.
 
But they musn't be concerned by the risk that a female therapist might fancy them and they think she's a no goer.[&:]
Perhaps it's the therapist's approach? - I tend to "mother" my clients - I didn't realise it, until one of my little old lady clients commented on how she felt mothered and looked after by the way I wrapped her in warm towels etc - it's perhaps that comforting, nurturing effect that men are after when seeing a female therapist? (- If she isn't the "phwar" sort anyway!! )
It's quite a psychological mine field! I wonder what Freud would say!
 
As a straight male, I don't care about sexuality or gender of the person giving or receiving. As I said earlier, I received from a straight builder and wished I had received from the gay bloke instead due to the builders hands being rough. And I am comfortable with my own sexuality
 
Or to pose the question from a client's perspective - do you think a gay/lesbian client would perfer a gay/lesbian therapist?
 
My eyes are shut when I am being massaged, but not the first few moments when the therapist enters the room. And as soon as I see it is a male therapist, I would immediately tense up and get uncomfortable. Sure, there are reasons for it, such as me having a Dad that wasn't real affectionate or emotional, and me having some male doctors that weren't very sympathetic and seemed quite cold. Maybe there is something to the nurturing female thing, who knows. I just know I am not interested in having a male massage therapist anytime soon. If people are allowed to pick therapists on personality and who they are comfortable with, shouldn't they be able to pick what sex they are comfortable with also? What's the difference?
 
Yes it is up to each individual to find a therapist or therapists that they feel comfortable with, this holds true regardless of the treatment involved, if you can't communicate and relax during a treatment, then it will lessen the effectiveness of the treatment.

The same can work the other way round, if we as therapists do not feel at ease with a patient then it can effect the treatment.
 
None whatsoever, as in all things "You have a freedom of choice to select who you wish" To call that "Sexual Discrimination" IMO is way off track.
 
Hi there,

I may be weighing in late on this one, but...

I'm a gay male therapist and haven't had any problems with straight male clients. I can add that my straight male clients haven't had any problems with me either. Massage therapy (the key word being THERAPY) is not sexual and I make this clear if I feel that there is any confusion whatsoever.

A poster spoke about searching for massage therapists and finding details with partially clothed men (or naked, etc.) advertising massage services. It's doubtful that most of these people actually bothered to attend a course, obtain accreditation and insurance in order to offer a regulated service. Not every gay masseur is also involved in prostitution and to assume that someone is going to act inapropriately because of their sexuality is shortsighted and ignorant. And not wanting to change speaks volumes, it's really sad that people can be so comfortable with their prejudice and bias - they lose out eventually. The world's a-changin', keep up of fall off.

Best wishes to all my fellow therapists who have to put up with crap from ingoramii (the plural for ignoramus, use it, don't use it...).

((E))
 
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    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  36. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, HANA & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. JENNY is sweet
  37. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approachable
  38. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Yoyo and
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back
  40. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  41. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’–Singapore ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  42. Ivyspa:
    Miami
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธJenny , sexy girl 1.60 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Suki Big Boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  44. Alibi Massage and Spa:
    Most sensual touch ๐Ÿ’‹ ALIBI Massage&SPA ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ฒ KAY ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ROSE ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นJANNE ๐Ÿ“ž905 212 1222๐Ÿ“1380 Matheson Blvd East, Mississauga
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Olivia, Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Koko ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Emily, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Linda , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Cici, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
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