Should I move

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So heres my story. I was on a three month trial lease at a mini day spa. I have been there since March. So yes the lease expired in June. Some of the good, my rent is 300.00 for a Mon-Fri, I get some overflow of the owner who is in the other room, (there are only two rooms) some of the bad, the space is 7.5x7.5 aprox., bathroom is located down the hall outside of our office space, its hotter then a muther, don't know if its gonna be cold in the winter. Its an old brick building with bad air circulation. Strange enough my clients don't complain but I am sweating bullets. And no its not menopause yet! I have been talking to the owner about re-doing the lease. I offered Wed-Fri and every other Sat. However, she is not comitting on giving me the days I want. She wants to leave it open so that the new leasee can be swayed by having a choice too. I offered to just take Sat out of the deal but that wasn't what she had in mind either. I could have it full time but thats 425.00 I have been averaging 4-6 clients per week and the odd weekend chair event or spa party. So far not a trouble at all with making rent and having some to pay myself. In fact I am pretty happy with myself. There is some marketing I have not done as I feel its direct competition to the owner who also does massage. It just feels weird.
Today I went and looked at a new space 2 miles from where i am now. Beautiful gardens, washer dryer, kitchen area, waiting room, nice size work space room for 400.00. Its about 75.00 out of my comfort zone, but having the w&d right there is a huge bonus. I hate packing dirty sheets out.
So I really want to move. My questions to you guys:
1. How much notice should I give? I am not under any contract but I don't want to be a jerk. I also don't want to loose out on this new place. I think it would be tough to find another like it.
2. Are the few clients I have going to think I'm flakey? My hubby says maybe so. Is going to be starting from scratch all over again?

Its crazy just three days ago I was trying so hard to get my new lease settled and now I feel it was divine intervention. I know this place is large enough for me to do all things I want, thai massage, sports massage etc. I can't even stretch a persons arm in my current work envirnoment. I think it was great as a starter point but I need to move on.

Ideas, thoughts comments please!! and quick especially if you think I am about to do something crazy....
 


Ok, I went through the same thing 3 yrs back. Old place had so many cons, new one had SO many pros! My hubby was afraid of the move, said maybe we couldnt afford it. Im now paying the same rent (400) as you will be. It was the absolute best decision to move! Your clients will NOT think youre flakey. Im sure they will love the new space! YOure miserable now in the room, its hot, and will prob be cold in the winter. Are you really doing your best work being so uncomforatble? ANd why would your current landlord be more worried about giving the NEW tenant "dibs", so to speak? Youre clients will follow. You will get more. YOu will be sending out happy vibes! I say go for it. Just ake sure you market yourself more to cover the extra cost. As far as notice, you do what feels right. When you leave a job, 2 weeks is nice. :} If you feel like more, then do so. Dont let a good opportunity pass you by due to fear of the unknown. Please, please let us know what you decide!!!
 


I agree with Bodymovers' post 100%. Congratulations on this wonderful opportunity!
 


I concur with Bodymovers and Blisss, it sounds like an ideal opportunity to me. I think that six months down the road you're going to be sorry if you don't jump on this chance you have to expand your practice now!
You can do it! ;)
 


I agree - go for it! It sounds wonderful, and your clients will understand why you moved just as soon as they see the new place.
 


Yes, absolutely. Embrace the change, and jump into the next phase of building your practice!
 


Yeah, go for it. Having onsite laundry, in office bathroom facilities and a spacious treatment room are all great incentives to move. I wouldn't worry about seeming 'flaky' to your clients, you are upgrading and improving your work environment, your clients will be grateful. Good Luck!
 


Your clients will appreciate your nicer working space and surroundings. Some people don't think that's important, but it is. Your clients will appreciate it and you will gain new clients too. The risk is so small!! Do it!!! Don't look back! You will be laughing about it in a year when your client list grows!
 


So I really want to move. My questions to you guys:
1. How much notice should I give? I am not under any contract but I don't want to be a jerk. I also don't want to loose out on this new place. I think it would be tough to find another like it.
2. Are the few clients I have going to think I'm flakey? My hubby says maybe so. Is going to be starting from scratch all over again?

I would try to give at least a month or two notice if possible, since you are renting the space.

I think it sounds like a great new opportunity and I don't think your clients will feel you are flakey if you let them know you have found a new space which will have better amenities and room to work in. It is a win-win for you and your clients.

I will tell you that some years ago I moved 3 blocks over and lost a good number of clients because of the traffic flow (-road traffic and where they were coming from. An extra 15 mins. on a drive from 45 mins. away was just too much for some people - and rightfully so. Just something to keep in mind - that you may loose some people in the move.) But, I gained a whole new base of clientele that has been really good to me. :)

Sounds great. Please let us know when you get settled in!
 


pueppi said:
I will tell you that some years ago I moved 3 blocks over and lost a good number of clients because of the traffic flow (-road traffic and where they were coming from. An extra 15 mins. on a drive from 45 mins. away was just too much for some people - and rightfully so. Just something to keep in mind - that you may loose some people in the move.) But, I gained a whole new base of clientele that has been really good to me. :)

i'm confused?? it takes your clients an extra 15 minutes to go 3 blocks? hmmmm... that must be a long 3 blocks -

seattlesunshine ~ i say go for it! i agree with everyone else here. your clients will not think you're crazy. i moved about 8 blocks away from my other office about a year ago. my clients love the new space. sounds like it's a better deal all the way around! i'd give 2-4 weeks notice or so. talk to the "new" landlord before hand though and tell him/her when you'd like to move in. set up those arrangements before you tell the other place.
 


I agree with the rest. Give 2-4 weeks notice, communicate with your new landlord and your clients, and then move on honey. This sounds like a great change for you. Good luck!
 


Thanks everyone for confirming my instincts. Once again, I must say how great it is to have a place like this to come to on these issues. Friends and family are great, but you guys really get where I am coming from. I am working on a nice letter for my current landlord and leaving it as a slightly flexible exit not to exceed one month. I'll keep ya'all informed.
Happy Labor Day weekend and hope you are all enjoying the weekend off and doing something fun in these last days of summer sunshine.
 


Seattlesunshine said:
>>> I was on a three month trial lease at a mini day spa. I have been there since March. >>>>> my rent is 300.00 for a Mon-Fri, >>>> I have been talking to the owner about re-doing the lease. I offered Wed-Fri and every other Sat. However, she is not comitting on giving me the days I want. She wants to leave it open so that the new leasee can be swayed by having a choice too. I offered to just take Sat out of the deal but that wasn't what she had in mind either. I could have it full time but thats 425.00
Is full time Mon-Sat, or 7 days a week? Either way she wants to charge you $125 more for the weekend? She wants you to either take the whole week or take some days that she won't let you have any input in, it depends on what is left after the possible new tennant says what they want?
Under those circumstances, I think 2 weeks is fine, 4 weeks is generous, 2 days is not enough. If the other negotiations weren't going on and you knew where you stood, the longer the better (4+ weeks), but since she is already looking for the possible new tennant, let the possible new tennant have all the flexibility she seems to want to offer the possible new tennant and step away.

Do your clients belong to you, so you could take them, or are they clients of the mini day spa and you aren't meant to inform them you are leaving? If this is not clear, I would get their contact details before you mention you're moving to the owner. It could get messy fairly quickly once you reveal your move.
 


I have to add my 2c concerning clients. I have worked @ spas...although I felt as if they WERE my clients, I didnt feel right telling them I was leaving. I did the right thing by not doing so. Karma was good & alot of my clients found me anyway! you move, they will follow!
 


Yeah they are my clients. Ones from my website or elsewhere. LIke outside chair or party events I have done. I did agree not to work within .05 mile for up to one year. No big deal there. This should not be an issue as its clearly spelled out in my original lease. They are all written up on my intakes etc. I have shared some of the names with spa owner for facial treatments and stuff like that. I previously worked at a spa where the clients where clearly the spas. They brought them in and I did no markeing. In that case even though I had no no compete clause I just said goodbye to some of my faves but didn't try to sway them. One did find me. And one actually asked for a referal in his area that had a similar style. As far as schedule, I am now M-F. She wants to maybe be able to offer a new person a Thursday or Fri if they want it. Mon & Tues are dead dead days. Alot of the small business in the area is not even open on Mondays. I don't care about Sat. as I am lazy on the weekends and would rather do the family thing. So yeah it would be 425 for full full time even if I did no work on weekends to seal the deal. Shes not a bad person. I think she does want to let me have some input on the days I really want, but "thinking" doesn't make me feel on solid ground. Thats why i started looking around at other options. I never dreamed I would find something so perfect for me. Seems a sign to me. I really have been trying to get a committment for at least a month. We left it last at she wants to sit on it and think about whats best for her business. I respect that, but need to do the same for me. I like this person and would not leave her in a lurch. So I will definantly give 2-3 weeks. I would offer more if we had not been working on this so long already and if the new place had not popped up. I am really hoping it doesn't get messy. But I know thats a possibility, though I can't see a reason it should right now. I am hoping to speak to the new landlord tomorrow and get that on solid ground before shaking up my current situation. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.
 


terab said:
pueppi said:
I will tell you that some years ago I moved 3 blocks over and lost a good number of clients because of the traffic flow (-road traffic and where they were coming from. An extra 15 mins. on a drive from 45 mins. away was just too much for some people - and rightfully so. Just something to keep in mind - that you may loose some people in the move.) But, I gained a whole new base of clientele that has been really good to me. :)

i'm confused?? it takes your clients an extra 15 minutes to go 3 blocks? hmmmm... that must be a long 3 blocks -

Nothing to be confused about. You just need to see the traffic in the area I work in. :) Especially at lunch and after work. I don't work mornings, due to the traffic at that time can even be worse.

Since I have people come to me from as good as an hour-plus away, that small move of just a few blocks, put extra time on some people's drive. The ones who were coming for 20 mins. easily got bumped up to 35 mins. drive time, depending on what side of town they were coming from --- and so forth (just move the time frame up to an hour and you can see why some people would have to locate another therapist). Of course, there were other people coming from another direction that got time taken off of their drive, as I moved closer to the freeway. Oooh, ahh... they were happy.

We're in a location that is close to a few major freeways and a tollroad, so people can slip right in. But at the same time, a very busy portion of the city, so they can get stuck in traffic. Hard to explain, but not so hard to understand once you've been in the midst of it. :)
 


Okay, so I am all moved in. I took a couple days off to get everything switched over and its a good thing I did. Amazing how long it can take to put together one small office! of course I have a list of more things I want to do , but one step at a time. I have my first client at 3 today.

also I definantly did the right thing. The new lease I would have been asked to sign at the other place was much different then the first one. More $, less control over things such as decorations etc. And just really not good for me.
Thanks ya'all for the support
 


CONGRATS! :smt023

I'm glad it all is working out so well for you. Sounds like you will have no reason to regret the decision!! :smt041
 


Congratulations!! Have fun working this afternoon!
 


Congratulations! I hope you enjoy the new place! :)
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Pretty Girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  28. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  29. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good
  30. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery friendly Cici,open maid.new girl,amazing touch,happy the end,must try ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ”ฅgive you warm comfortable time๐Ÿฅคโค๏ธ
  31. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday June 4, 2025, our attendants will be Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Carla ๐Ÿฅณ and Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  33. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is OLIVIA, ANGELA, LISA & KITTY ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  34. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  36. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Jasmine, Echo, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Doris, busty Amber, Kelly & Luna โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. Bencook:
    Suko have many beautiful girls working here ๐Ÿ˜Newer lala 24,beautiful lineup Mia Nora student Hellen Big boobs jojo yumi please call 647 718 6182
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  40. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  48. starjey888:
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  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
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