The cost of hobbying (killing us!!!)

Hobbying and woman in general have been more of a motivator to increase my earnings. Hasn't had a downside yet, but you never know.... I could get hooked on all five hour duo sessions! :0)
 
anyone want to start a poll on the board if you ever had an STDs?
and how long you've been hobbying?

won't be scientific, but will be anonymous and at least we can get some idea.
i'd doit but don't know how.
 
sweety I am starting to agree with you, we survived without them for so long. I really wonder what kind of life these girls have after they turn 50 and look like garbage and then start getting mean as the clients don't like them as much as they used to. Meanwhile the best years of their lives have been used to take huge risks. Not everyone who goes into these places is an upstanding citizen. Some guys have STD's try to kiss them , finger them, and worse. They get yelled at , called names, probably have to endur some violence if they are unlucky. Boyfriends/husbands who want them out of the business, and on and on and on, I agree it's a no win for anyone except the owners and the licensing board. Plus they don't pay any taxes and are making a fortune and no one is complaining about this, meanwhile the rest of us hard workers are getting taxed a crap load.
 
Whoa. Somewhere in there are a couple valid points, but they're buried too deep in the rhetoric.

Putting slavery situations aside, no one is putting a gun to these girls heads to work in the sex trade. They could work retail or office jobs. They choose not to, because those jobs are not as expedient, or as accommodating to their personal circumstances. the girls "win" too, if the are smart enough to see they job for what it is and use it to get ahead or get out of a bad situation.
 
I don't understand how people come in here and complain about this hobby like they didn't know what they're getting into. This is a hobby, something we need to release(no pun) those stress & anxiety of the day to day grind with work/family issues etc. etc. I'm not saying it's the solution to the problems but it makes you get away (for hh) and get back to the grind a little fresh. This hobby ain't cheap but cheap don't feel as good. If i was to start a hobby building miniature airplanes or some shit like that, fine but if it starts to take a whiff off my savings and affect mortgage and bill payments...the SO will be out of my life faster than LiLo in Rehab.
 
..Some of you get it, some of you don't. It's obvious who is who.
 
I agree with the " human train wreck " comment. Some of the massageplanet.netites here have actual experience dating these women. I know some one here will argue about this because they are one of the guys we call " pussy whipped " . You are taking your mental health for granted if you attempt to get close to one of these " human train wrecks " . Some of them have husbands waiting for them back in China, which I have heard from 2 different girls now in the industry that own businesses. Without giving away any names I am sure some of you have met them at least one or 2. Some of them have mental problems that the American Psycological Association calls NPD/BPD combination. Go ahead , google it and see if you have gotten really close to one of these monsters who failed in life and are now resorting to prostitution , because that's what this is, let's not kid ourselves. Some have boyfriends and have admitted openly to other girls they work with they have cheated many times on the boyfriend. I think to get into this business you have to have a low self esteem and to be a long time customer you do too. This is how diseases get passed , you can lie to yourself and say it's not but if you are honest you will agree . Some of them actually get paid money big money to go to someone's house for a fuck and this is all tax free. Ok I am not saying if I was a multi millionaire and I found a girl that I thought was the best looking girl I had ever seen in my life I wouldn't dole out a few $ too, but this is super risky at best, if the condom breaks once and she has something you don't know about, guess what? it's spread to you.
I think and hope I had an epiphany today that will keep me away from these places for the rest of my life. Today I got some great advice from a friendly owner and I am going to take it. I also suggest , to all of you , get off your asses get to the gym, get your confidence back and go after a " normal " woman. Although it's debatable if there is such a thing, but the ones that don't work in these places, you have a much better chance of finding a lifelong partner than one of these lying, cheating screwballs. Every bad thing happens for a reason, my bad experience and my experience today taught me a lesson that I hope will change my life for the better. I know some of you will heed my comments and others will just go about their business like nothing important was even said.

P.S. Today I met someone with a husband in China and a bf somewhere else in Asia and she admitted to this. One day I will write a book about what I call, " this tragedy from the croaching tiger " or something along that line. I believe after all the reading I have done, that Chinese mothers are responsible for this " plague " that has taken over Toronto. I call it horrible parenting, born in , well I just said where it's from. Last thing be careful everyone. These places attract seedy characters , I don't want anyone here to be a statistic , think about the risk and access if it's worth it for you. I know the answer for myself.
 
LOL ummm thanks massageplanet.netid. 8yrs in a room, almost 2yrs out of one. I remember when I 1st saw you too. Not sure about the turn my life around comment. My life has been full of amazing things, and the rest has earned me my stripes I wouldn't trade it for anything!!



Well, with extreme stories like the kind the OP mentioned, I highly doubt the hobby or the job f**ked them up. Thats more about their entire lives out of balance. And that can happen to anyone, anywhere.

This is a great thread/discussion!!
 
Poignant, profound, prodigious. Are you massageplanet.net's most interesting member?
 
What I want to know is if there are any veteran Hobbiests who have been able to maintain a marriage while seeing mps without ending up like scenario #1, herpes, warts and and infected wife on the way to divorce. I've been at it for 3 years, so far so good. I try to avoid pussy slides at all costs, but sometimes a girl gets a little over aggressive and stuff happens before you can do anything about it though..
 
Lots. Not having sex with your wife helps. and being careful in all other aspects (finances, whereabouts, schedule) is key.
 
I started "hobbying" when my marriage went bad. I have been very lucky in terms of my favorite MPA and a certain fav. at a downtown strip club. I had a negative turn on my income recently, and they understand my cutback. I don't smoke, and I don't drink much, live in a no frills bachelor apt. - and I m happy being single, so I still allow myself the occasional pleasure.
But the future Mrs. Smith (some of you know the joke) is part of my life and she understands that i will see her a little less - for the time being. I would not be a repeat unless I truly liked her as a person and she truly liked me...and I know that is all it is. Damn I sound too sensible.
 
Thanks for the definitions. I wasn't aware that so many services were available at non-Chinese MPs.

Both of my favourites (the only ones that I have visited these past 4 years) - first, Amazing Spa in Brampton, second, Delux in Markham - were busted and closed down.

I would have thought STDs in MPs was low considering the services they provide, but I guess this mid-40's dude may be out to lunch.
 
Amen to that. It's always something that happened to "some other guy I heard about"... There's been no shortage of massageplanet.netites second guessing their hobby on this board lately, and yet isn't it interesting that if you combined all the MPAs that everyone has collectively visited on this thread alone (surely thousands combined) there's not one person sharing a first hand account of picking up a disease and breaking up his family. From your other posts Sweety it sounds like you have first hand knowledge of every spa / MPA in the business, so why is it necessary to reference some sensationalistic news article from years ago rather than your own personal experience? You donโ€™t have to ban the business for the rest of us - simply exercise your โ€˜noโ€™ muscle. For both the clients and the MPAs, everyone's participation in the business is optional. If you don't like it, opt out.... don't suggest legislating everyone else's freedom if the real problem is that you can't control yourself.
 
Oh, we hear about the train wrecks. The posts come up every so often.

Anecdotes provide a flawed sample.
 
I wouldn't call pussy slides as the equivalent to coitus in risk. If no condoms, a lot have saran wrap. Customers have been noted to bring condoms for 'fingers' if not for the intended purpose. I would agree about risk being higher with less reputable establishments (you referred to the Asian places but I can't say). I've been asked to put on a condom when doing a pussy slide with an independent massage provider. I bring protection just in case, but always have some in my car in any event.
 
I doubt that hobbyists see SPs or MPAs in search of their soul mates, and those providers really don't hustle to garner a man's affection for business.

If you want to warn men about the dangers of getting involved with women who are more interested in your wallet than you as a person, I would say that this caveat applies more with respect to exotic dancers or even good-looking civilian golddiggers at bars or clubs.
 
I would bet bodyslides to pussyslides that the majority of us are caught up in a masquerade to camouflage flaws and weaknesses in ourselves.

Why kid ourselves? Shed the masquerade and what is left? The emperor has no clothes and the mirror is reflecting who we truly are. Our souls are then left true and naked.

Welcome to yourself.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปvery popular girl,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  41. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY (12pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Sophia with curve body 30โ€™s and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SONIA, PRIYA, AMANDA, PAOLA, PREETI, KIRAN, ANGELINA, MONIKA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girlโ€จโ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
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