Opinion The Elusive Thrill

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I wonder how many of us are ultimately looking for the Shangri La when going for a massage at a semi-legit establishmen. How many really want the FS deal?

Over the last many years, I often went for a massage in the hopes it would lead to FS. Itโ€™s the excitement of the chase, the competitiveness in me. I would always go for the happy ending and ask for nude and ultimately FS. It happened a few times with 3 providers, but I spent hundreds of $$ asking and getting turned down. It wasnโ€™t because I am ugly, grossly overweight, or just plain old as I have been told on many occasions I am good looking. I am fit and dress well, I wouldnโ€™t admit I am good looking, as money generally talks, but I would rate myself as average.

I now find myself visiting AMP as they are a FS provider, unfortunately the massage is often no-existent or lacklustre. Curious how many other like minded pooners seek the same thrill.
 
there are knowns, and un-knowns. you will pay a lot if you're favorite part is the un-knowns, as you've been discovering. That isn't ever going to change.

I had a couple of experiences turn into more than expected this year. One was a real connection that turned into FS - not discussed or negotiated, just go with the moment together. Another was a legit rmt who was just really open-minded and our nice connection led to some extras. i also had one I thought would go that way and went very poorly the other way. all this year.

both are things I might have chased after at one point. but no longer. its too expensive. i need to know what i really want and need, and those are things that I can fulfill in the known column. so i'll always keep the door open to looking, hoping, for some unexpected thrill - but i don't think i'll really invest in it.
 
there are knowns, and un-knowns. you will pay a lot if you're favorite part is the un-knowns, as you've been discovering. That isn't ever going to change.

I had a couple of experiences turn into more than expected this year. One was a real connection that turned into FS - not discussed or negotiated, just go with the moment together. Another was a legit rmt who was just really open-minded and our nice connection led to some extras. i also had one I thought would go that way and went very poorly the other way. all this year.

both are things I might have chased after at one point. but no longer. its too expensive. i need to know what i really want and need, and those are things that I can fulfill in the known column. so i'll always keep the door open to looking, hoping, for some unexpected thrill - but i don't think i'll really invest in it.

lol, yes I agree, I have also lost money on the stock market chasing greed. I no longer invest in seeking the thrill, like you said, let it come naturally. Problem is though, I no longer can afford to go for multiple massages to see if it does come naturally, so I go for the sure thing at AMP.
 
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I too invested a lot of money in the pursuit of getting beyond just the HE. A few times it has worked out, which is what kept me searching. Now I just go to the ladies where I know I can get what I'm looking for on any particular day, I can't afford the chase anymore. If I want FS then AMP it is . This site has been a great help. I don't review much anymore as the ladies I see have been extensively reviewed already.
 
I love those special surprises. Over the years (many years) I came across maybe a half dozen ladies that took it all the way. A couple in the first session and the others over time as we got to know each other.

Not sure which was better. It was certainly a high when each session got hotter until there were no restrictions and we just let it develop. Massages became less and less with the ladies as we went straight into pleasuring each other

It cost money for sure
 
I like the word 'elusive'. In massage world as well as in the rest of life. When the majority of my buddies would be hot for some girl, usually I wasn't all that interested in that chick. Or when the world was excited about some actress because of looks, usually they did not grab my attention. In the massage world for a couple of decades, I didn't look for FS, but enjoyed deep therapeutic massages, and that occasional connection which leads to reverse massages, body to body slides, and mutual masturbation. If a masseuse offered FS as part of their daily menu, I was usually not interested in seeing them. The elusive connection that led to FS once in a blue moon .. continued to remain elusive.

Then in recent years, something shifted. It's as if having some grey hair resulted in having a few more offers from RMTs. Not talking about dozens here. But one or two new offers about every year. During covid, my activities shifted almost exclusively to home based RMTs. If a woman can't give a great massage, I do not repeat regardless of what else may be available. However if the massage is great, and they are reasonably fit, and there is some mutual connection, I have had some success in turning repeat sessions into sessions that involve mutual therapy and exchanging mutual pleasures including FS. Slightly longer sessions of around 2 hours, but without the exorbitant rates charged by spas and shops. Not yapping about these elusive experiences with names of therapists is clearly part of the equation. Giving them repeat business is also part of the equation. Naturally my visits to conventional massage shops has dropped dramatically.

I remain convinced that some of you have similar 'favourites', and am convinced that more single or divorced RMTs would consider these engagements if they could be sure that clients will respect their privacy 100%.


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Adding some information that may be useful for others. Home based does not mean that these therapists all work from their own home. Some of them work in groups of two or more from a house. Some may just rent a room in a house. There are plenty of Asian real estate speculators who are unable to flip homes in current market. So any income from those houses is welcome. Also, some of these therapists, usually Asian, also work in a legit shop, some hours of the week. No hanky panky at these shops. But this is where you might meet them initially. An assessment of mutual potential for special arrangements and trustworthiness occurs at this time. It may all still be elusive but it does happen from time to time, more often than some people think.


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I don't always buy into what you're saying Albertaman, but we've had some talks, and when it comes to paying attention to whats going on, i've read between the lines and taken your advices - the environment, listening to her situation - I realized that some different choices might lead to some different experiences. And wouldn't you know it, its been a year with a few very new and interesting things. so kudos there.
 
I too have been fortunate over the years, with a number of providers over time unexpectingly providing BBBJ or FS. In all cases it took time, $$$, and patience. The dollar factor was always mor of an investment over time than additional dollars for extra service. By the time the extras were offered, no funds were discussed. Its rare but it happens
 
I'm like some of you. I throw a lot of money trying to get something extra from the legit or BBBJ from a semi legit. Something about levelling up with a provider that really gets the juices flowing. with the legit make sure you let them take some sort of lead 1st. you don't want to be viewed as a creep or predator. They put up with enough shit day to day.
with the semi legit you can be more open with your wants/needs after you've developed a good relationship just don't be a dick and get mad if YMMV is less than the next guys, their body, their choice.
 
I'm the opposite. No interest in finding FS providers
I'm in the same camp. Limited funds for searching- I limit my funds for searching for a good semi-legit place that gives a good massage and a good finish. If a girl was to strip down and straddle me I don't know how I'd react. If she had a condom, I might go for it but I'm not specifically on the hunt for it!
 
Imho, instead of paying 120 to 140 all in for an hour of good massage with a handy, 200 for 2 hours total of good massage plus erotica including FS represents even better value for a client. So an unattached and relatively attractive RMT who can selectively build a part time side business (in more private setting) with a few special services clients (repeating several times a month) can have a more stable earnings profile. It also provides some relief from the hour by hour or half hour by half hour rat race in their regular job at a legit or semi legit operation (where the room fee takes away a fairly large chunk of the incoming cash). They should still keep their jobs at the legit or semi legit shop where they have new walk in clients. This side business is a true win win for the therapist and the client.

Whenever you see a great therapist with added talents burning out at a regular shop from the daily grind, one needs to suggest these ideas... it's up to them to do something about it


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Iโ€™ve been around this place since day 1 but I have no idea which providers you guys are talking about lol. I thought I had a good inventory of everyone but I guess not. Maybe itโ€™s because I donโ€™t see any actual legit RMTs
 
Iโ€™ve been around this place since day 1 but I have no idea which providers you guys are talking about lol. I thought I had a good inventory of everyone but I guess not. Maybe itโ€™s because I donโ€™t see any actual legit RMTs
haha. don't worry about it. no one's been naming names.
 
There were some that lead to FS after many visits, and some others that were available right at the first encounters. PSE being the ultimate - ie not just FS.
Although age isn't always a factor, age in general leads to different muscle/skin conditions - therefore younger providers (as in 20+) with just the right amount of baby fat/bubble butt/breasts are just irresistible.
There was one that I desperately wanted to meet again (only had HE) because she met all the criteria. Unfortunately she seemed to work in most places for only a day or two - and has since vanished.
Courtship...
 
I love finding the rarity. Itโ€™s such a treat. No I donโ€™t go searching. If I want fs I go to an amp or micro. These days I want a semi legit plus different levels of extras. But when you ask for something and the lady goes above and beyond for whatever reason itโ€™s super special! And makes you feel good and come back for more! Doesnโ€™t mean it will happen every time and I donโ€™t expect it, but sometimes itโ€™s your lucky day!
 
Some of the Asian ladies, 45+, slim and in great shape may surprise us all. Some much older. Chronological age is meaningless. And a welcoming attitude is another elusive aphrodisiac.


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I'm like some of you. I throw a lot of money trying to get something extra from the legit or BBBJ from a semi legit. Something about levelling up with a provider that really gets the juices flowing. with the legit make sure you let them take some sort of lead 1st. you don't want to be viewed as a creep or predator. They put up with enough shit day to day.
with the semi legit you can be more open with your wants/needs after you've developed a good relationship just don't be a dick and get mad if YMMV is less than the next guys, their body, their choice.
I've only had one exp with a MPA where things went very well after about 5 sessions, and it was not related to money but comfort and personality. She worked regular job and did massage/esthetician on side as she was a single mom here alone from south america. I hit it off with her on first massage, because I'm that way respectful and humble, I'much older than her but it was not an issue. I was never draped she was ok with that, about 3rd session she smiled and asked if she could take care of my Rager with a HJ. 4th, 5th and 6th went from rimming to blow me BB and finish with a jerk, to blow me BB and swallow. She was half naked on that last session I knew another session we would have been fucking. She was into me not because of looks or money, maybe she was lonely dunno. She was asked about on here a couple times but no one ever commented on seeing her. Reason I quit abruptly, I could see getting involved with her and that's not in cards. Moral here if there is one, their human, like us, some harder than others, most are full of shit but if yer at this long enough good things come up from time to time, take it for what it is and run with it, or not but remember you only get one crack at this life
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide๐Ÿ˜˜ Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man.Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space
  29. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's tomorrow's sneak peek: For Friday November 15, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Lulu โค๏ธ. Call 905-479-6668 and we'll see you soon!
  30. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto near Rogers Center ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  31. Zeref dragneel:
    My first time going to spa in kelee any recommendation for first timer :)
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thirsty Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  36. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  37. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
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