The lure of LBs...

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I guess I will have to read your posts. I took your saying that you didn't like the scene with BGs as meaning you were anti-BG. It came off as sounding that way to me. My mistake if that is not what you meant. I can understand why you wouldn't want to hang out at the ladybars! :D
 
Have to agree here; live and let live. Never crossed the divide so far but every now and again I see a LB that makes me go 'wow'.

I think they scare me a little as an 'unknown quantity' that I don't understand, but I can see the attraction. The question of sexuality raises a few hackles as well, which leads me to believe that the issue is far more complex than a straight/gay one, and many have said as much here in their replies.


I guess the upside is that every bloke chasing katoeys up and down Soi Crocodile is one less chasing cuties up and down Soi Eric, therefore leaving more for me!

:cheers:
 
A lot of people are making that assumption. It feels sometimes like I am arguing with George Dubbya, "your either with us or against us". Not the case I assure you just am looking for a good time that does not revolve around the bg scene.
 
There is to many lovely BG's for me when and if i get sick of them then i may cross over to the dark side ;)
 
Thanks eurogirl! as you see i have changed my name to StGeorge.

I am honest because in this situation I can be. When I'm away I am honest as well, but as you know, people love to gossip, and I have a reputation to uphold at home so I tend to be economical with the truth within my circles at home.

I want my freinds and family to respect me, and they are not quite so open minded. I cant blame them, thats just the way they are.
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Sorry Lene,
I missed your comment....

No difference at all re. penetration. The only difference is when you choose to 'eat sushi' (as obviously they can't get wet...)
 
As I posted in the other thread you posted at least 3 comments that on the surface of it sounded like putting bar girls down, putting thier 'fat old farang customers' down etc..

Since then you have qualified those comments but its hard to see how you would think that comments like that would not generate a response.. By stating that in gerneral guys going with girls are fat old farangs you are saying in general that we are fat old farangs (not that I give a shit) as most of us have been in the company of a BG.. As many of us are not fat and I am (for example) younger then you.. Its easy to see why comments get missinterpreted..

Also the HIV rate amoung LB's has been shown to be VERY much higher than the rate of infection amoung even working women.. Mostly (probably) because the vast majority of LB's are on the game, many of them are indulging in riskier sex, etc.. That is a fact..
 
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This is a photo of me and the errm...young lady (??) responsible for my temporary crossover...
 

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I've shown my colours earlier in this thread but I think there does appear to be a major difference in attitudes towards LBs compared to BGs even amongst the LB proeforum.xxxonists because you don't seem to hear about relationships developing with LBs whereas this site is filled with stories of relationships with BGs.
 
I know that the rate is higher among LB's but that is due to the fact that they are willing to take more risks, perhaps a bit more desperate for example for clients etc. It is also biologically related as even with subtype E **** is still the most effective way. Nevertheless a 4 of 10 incidence among bg's is nothing to shake your leg...or any other body part for that matter...at. Have fun but be safe, my only point.
 
I'm more than cormfortable with my sexuality thank you very much. So many reports of experiences with ladyboys contain phrases such as " i'm not gay but..." or "I consider myself to be straight but.....". Are these not the people who are not comfortable with their sexuality? Are they not lying to themselves?

There are endless amounts of things in this world that people have not done. Do you have to try everything before you know if you enjoy it or not? How about your own personal judgement and foresight? Or how about basic human nature, instinct and desire? Men have sex with women.

In the vast majority of experiences with ladyboys its is purely for sex. So is the fact that its 'a woman trapped in a mans body' relevent? Yes some are stunning and according to reports great at blow jobs. Each to their own and I do not condemn anyone who is into this. My comments were in responce to the recommendation that everyone should try it at least once.
 
You keep quoteing this 4/10 figure..

You showed one link that said something about Burma and didnt state anything about data set size etc.. as I told you in anohter place an 80% figure was obtained for Thailand.. When questioned it turned out to be one single brothel in N Thailand where Thai guys dont use condoms, so in one place, with a tiny group, you get an 8/10 and 80% number.. NGO's need scare numbers for attention and money..

I have shown you the HIV stats for Phuket... about 3300 cases total last year (not new cases) with a 2.7 % rate among young women for prenatal screening..

Use a condom.. Relax..
 
I think Del Boy makes some very good points.

If somebody does NOT see the attraction to ladyboys, then there is no convincing them -neither should you try to.

I have seen enough posts about the subject over the last couple of years to realise it is something you either 'like' or 'dislike'.

I think ladyboys are more of a fascination than anything else - Having had LOTS of experiences with them, I would NEVER consider myself as a 'gay man' . If somebody else does, then thats up to them, it doesnt really bother me.

I think excitement and experimenting with something 'different' makes a big attraction.

As far as me going out and wanting to suck some blokes nob end, then its not going to happen - but give me a brown boys bum, and im there everytime :):) (as long as they have nice tits and wear a nice dress ;))
 
Just remembering when i was in Bangkok last year & checked out nana plaza, walked in to some bar and wasn't happy coz the women looked old in these bars. Then i when upstairs saw some hotties but they turned out to be Ladyboys but they were the best looking that i saw in nana plaza. I don't know if i would ever try one but Ex looks great & a mate of mine been going to Phuket for the past 5 years & swears that they give the best blow jobs. :light:
 

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OK, LivinLos, I think in many ways you are trying to wish away facts. How many of the bg's you know have gone for neo-natal testing last year? Point being that this is another demographic.

You want links I can give you links galore on statistics, but the fact is that HIV is widespread in Thailand with one of the highest per capitas in the world. It is also of a different strain and thus more infectious heterosexually.

http://www.aegis.com/news/afp/2003/AF030102.html

On this link read about Subtype E

http://www.aids.harvard.edu/news_publications/har/special_1996/special96-8.html


There are a million more links with stats but honestly it is not a contest to try to exaggerate on my part or down play on your part the hiv risk here, I simply want to let people know they are playing with a different animal and that caution is best!
 
I think that the HIV question has been more then discussed here now, use your search -bottom!

Do you really think we are ignorant? Don't you think that even with a condom we feel secure all the time? I get tested every time I get back!

That you bring this question up in one tread you are participating, fine, but please not in every one :complain:

Verdorie toch!
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl New girl Maggie ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  34. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธCanadian๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  35. Kayf:
    Did anyone saw Karina?
  36. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 7 different style beautiful girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿคฉ ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new sexy and slim massage girl Coco exudes elegance and allure, with
  38. Q Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Sweet Girl Gigi is working with Service Queeen Yoyo today @ Q Spa!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’Q SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…4465 SHEPPARD AVENUE EAST UNIT #27โœ… SCARBOROUGH - BRIMLEY & SHEPPARD โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-727-2577)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only Spa Landline โœ…OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAYโœ… ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…TWO NEW ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXCELLENT MASSAGE+ ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXTRA SERVICES AVAILABLE ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Q SPA IS YOUR IDEAL MASSAGE + SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SPA WITH YOUNG ASIAN SEXY PETITE GIRLS๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF GIRLS WORKING IN OUR SPA EVERYDAY๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ Availab
  39. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Tuesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’‡ Nora, Amy, Judy, Jojo, Michelle, Yumi and Candy ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Ensuit shower is available ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl beautiful face Mimi,natural c cup,deep tissue massage ,nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„new beautiful face Nancy strong to relaxing massage hot stone cupping,give you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl New girl Maggie ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  46. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Beautiful Girls Sofia & Mia. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Sofia is Slim, Cute and Openminded.๐ŸคฉMia is also a slim cute girl. ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! ๐Ÿคฉ OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  47. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Fedi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  49. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament April, Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Grace,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Molly๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new quick witted and funny girl Molly is here to entertain you not only with her sensual massage skills but also with her sense of humour and her happy go lucky friendly attitude. Molly, a fair skinned mixed race beaut
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