The New 2214, 514-578-7777

[bobthebulider]

For each post to this thread I get at least 5 PMs. Hey! Gimme a break -- this is becoming like a full-time job. So I've had to resort to some self-preservation efforts.

Most of the PMs ask about Victoria and about what the cost should be.Those having to do with Victoria were dealt with in my post about Roxanna. This one covers the question of cost, about which there seems to have been some degree of misunderstanding.

From the outset, me and several other posters to this thread have tried to make it clear that the 2214 is not for everybody, particularly anyone who is looking for a bargain or is on a tight budget. In a word, this a high-end establishment and IS NOT CHEAP! IMHO, the important thing is to consider what you get for the slightly greater cost.

For those who are contemplating a visit, I think it would be wise to refer to previous posts that say it better than I ever could. They are by 2 eforum.xxxite that I don't know personally, but who who both see the value of the 2214 in the same way I do -- that is to say, that sometimes paying more turns out to be the better deal.

First, I turn to what I have referred to as the "immortal words" of bouboule:



Second, I turn to Garito, who, if you include his posts on the deleted original thread on the 2214, outnumber mine:



So there you have it!

It's not the cheapest place in town. But if you can afford it, at least in the opinion of bouboule, Garito and myself, it is the best MP in town, and if you gain the trust of Victoria (because her recommendations remove the element of risk from your choice of MP) may actually be the biggest bargain in town.

This is particularly true when you compare the tips commonly demanded at the sleazy, dirty joints where you're expected to cavort with very much less than perfection on a flimsy, sliding, shredding, tearing and sticking paper-covered mattress lying on the bare floor.

Kasp_ar

 

[Pompal 09.]

It seems that maybe Victoria, the hostess, is now just asking for all the money up front. If recent posts are true. I'd hate to believe this is true. Though I LOVE the 2214, this is not a classy way to run a joint. As far as I know it is $50 for 45 min, $60 for an hour, and a good full, or close to full, service should be given a tip of at least $100 to $120 in my opinion. At least. So, if the hostess asks for one hour a full $180 up front, that kinda sucks. I'd rather give a tip on my own. One that is a comment on my pleasure and the service provided. Hell, I'm not afraid to give $140 or more if I really had a good time. If, in fact, the posts are true, it's like going to a restaurant with "service included". It's crazy. In France, they don't even expect a tip at restaurants. Tips are a true and pure comment on service. That's the way life should be.

The 2214 is a classy place, renovated in a high-end fashion. They could inform the customers that a certain "minimum" tip is expected, and leave it at that, or let the girls suggest tips in their own way. Beyond that, for such guaranteed great service, why hunt around town and have a lousy time half the time trying unknown places. A sure bet is way cheaper than wasting your money on places of unknown quality.
Happy Hobbying !

 

[oceansky]

No one will ever dictate to me how much I will have to pay up front as "the obligatory tip" even before I've examined the material and checked out the services. In the past, I've given $120 tips -- but that was because I found that the service warranted it. I've also left $80 tips when the service was less than extraordinary.

It's never happened to me, but if "pay-in-advance" has become the rule at 2214, I'll have to re-think my loyalty to this place.

To check it out, I'll have a chat with Victoria and report.

Over and out (possibly)!

Kasp_ar

 

[fradya420]

garito and kasp

it seems you both heard wrong

i was at that place this week was met at the door by victoria very nice host

she always ask 2 questions is it your first time and how you heard about it. and of course do you have an apt.
after that its 60.00 hr only no other request are made

sit down i will show you the girls . i sat in a room very elegant 5 girls came in less than 3 min

3 looked very nice 10/10 the other 2 were ok 6/10

took one and we had a 1 hour massage and other personal activities

no money was discuseed or requested at the end i gave her what i think it was worth for me
all i can tell you she worked very hard and i liked it repeat yes
she was happy and i was

 

[sasuke]

Never happened to me. I suspect it's only for new customers, maybe she doesn't trust them.

 

[StarStruckk Is A Monstur!]

Or me!

DA_

 

[Samandbump]

I have been there 8 or 9 times. First visit - I was told the hourly rate of $60 and told all other arrangements are made directly. Of course - this was accompanied by a delightful smile with "I am sure you know how it works". At no time was there an obligation. Since then - never a word before. After Victoria always asks if everything was ok and takes feedback very attentively if discretion is used.
My take would be - Presentation. My first vist - I had just come from the gym showered shaved and business attire.
I agree with the comment that Victoria can judge people who don't need to be told why they are there and tries to avoid disappointment or conflict by informing those she feels need it. Nothing personal - judgement call.
Two months ago - in the space of 2 hours I went to three places in search of some tension relief. Left 2 very upset and the third just barely satisfied.
With a 90% satisfaction rating in my visits here - it's not only abargain but classy as well. Let's compare apples to apples guys and not be thin skinned.
As usual details by PM only.

 

[jeremyfairchild]

>>> Review removed. NRP.

>>> Mod 11:

 

[jessika721]

I spoke to Victoria, who gave the real low-down. Ducon's right, there are some new customers who have earned the distrust of Victoria and the girls. It appears that some of the girls have been burned by some new customers after they had received services and been relieved. So the scoop is that for new customers who are not known to Victoria, unless they can say that they have been recommended by a known customer, the up-front fee is $180 covering both the entrance fee and the tip. After that first time, things revert to the usual $60 entrance fee with the tip being left to the customer's discretion in the usual fashion.

Another thing I learned is that the 2214 may be asking for a NRP because of some of the indiscreet postings by some eforum.xxxites, such as the one by erickm about Regina and the one by >>> EDITED BY MOD 11: NRP

 

[Angry:(]

Everybody who does a review on a MP must remember that besides the massage, everything else is more or less ignored by law enforcement only because it's not worth investigating, not because it's legal; it's not.

Anything over a straight massage is theoretically illegal so, reviews that are too explicit exposes the MP to unwanted attention from LE. If LE see peoples repeating the same thing over and over, insinuating there's a lot more than massages available, they might have no choice than to act. MPs are not like outcall escorts so MPs reviews should be more discrete.

 

[kylanburge]

Sorry if I have been indiscreet, but could you please mention what was specifically indiscreet in my post - unless you consider mentioning the specific price policy I was applied was indiscreet; but my goal was just to inform others (newbees as it has now been explained), since it was different from the usual pricing exposed in previous threads ...too easy to take people by surprise when they are expecting something different !!!

 

[H-B-P]

The review would still have been well-written and informative about the pricing policy and the girl without your mentioning the kind of finish you had.

Kasp_ar

 

[ERR0R]

I visited 2214 yesterday and was referred to Sophia. Tall - extremely beautiful Latino with classy delivery. The 45 minutes felt like an hour and after time spent with her I regretted not taking more time. Once again advice given and appreciated. One difference I like about this place - if Victoria knows you - she might refer but you always have the option to meet the ladies and choose. Unlike most other places where you take what they give you.

When I see a review about any other business, I never see details on tips and rarely is exact pricing discussed, references to expensive medium high etc ok. Why is this different? Why do som eforum.xxxites feel that the ladies who work here deserve less respect and DISCRETION than we demand. I am positive we would not want our significant others reading about our "exploits" or hobbies.

 

[Jingjing]

I went last night well after Kasp_ar's post and was greeted by Victoria. She asked me if it was my first visit, and how I heard of them. I told her that it was my fist visit and I heard about them from eforum.xxx. She walked me to the room and said the she would bring the girls right in. The girls came in and introduced themselves one by one and Victoria came in and asked me which girl I wanted. I told Victoria which girl and handed her $60. She didn't ask me for any more money. She just said thank you and said the girl will be in a few minutes.

I picked a girl from Mexico, I think her name was Roxanna. She is hot, and man does she give a nice massage and great attititude throughout. Her English was not that great but good enough. I wasn't there to talk anyway. No complaints with the masseuse that I chose, but As soon as I was greeted by Victoria I was hoping that she was going to be my masseuse. This is a top notch place and I will be going back real soon.

 

[Autumn]

Ok then, based on your comment and those from the moderator, I updated my review to an hopefully satisfying level of discretion.

 

[Alesha <3]

Gentlemen; This afternoon I had the pleasure of my fourth visit to this gem of a place. Victoria always greets me with a smile, a peck on the cheek and when in doubt she always chooses for me a wonderful lady. Each and every visit was accompanied by a beautiful hostess and with anticipated excitement.
The rooms are great and the showers are a pleasant bonus, a feature that I do appreciate.
Entrance fee has always been $60 and my tip is commensurate with service and attitude.
Victoria has always been pleasant and if anyone has unfortunately experienced an unpleasant visit I can only imagine there was an attitude problem with the visitor.
As my moniker would suggest, I'm way over the hill and probably look like the hill. For sure I'm no Brad Pitt, so YMMV wouldn't apply to me. I treat the ladies always with respect and never go where I'm not wanted. I'm just a great appreciative guy who takes my turn and behaves my self.
Oh yeah, today's treat was Roxanna and if memory serves me right, someone previously dissed her?... Well, I'm here to say this more than cute spanish senorita did not disappoint me. Case closed...
Gents... go forth and enjoy.

 

[Mr.Z]

Guys. I just learned that the FaNtAsTiC Charlie has now joined, once again, the bevy of fantastic babes at the 2214. I can't wait to get back up into town ! No, this is not a shill. No, they don't pay me, though I wouldn't say no to an extra couple of hands...LOL At any rate, I'm considering my first 'quatre mains' with Celine and Charlie......heaven is not that far away !

 

[Desereh]

Was told that Charlie only works Tues/Wed (this week and next week). Charlie is awesome.

btw, are her tits real? She told me they were real, so they must be the firmest real large C cups.

 

[Emily Yetman]

Hi,

My answer is No, I dont think they have a Website. If they have one, good idea to report it. They pretty low profile, no sign at the door, very discreet place, if they have one, I'll be suprise...

Neo

 

[Helicreature]

YES!!!! If I could do backflips, I would!