Chat Things are about to get nasty

[altaguetta]

Since this thread is called Things Are About to Get Nasty....


Teen who feared isolation dies after trying to take her own life

Teen who feared coronavirus isolation dies after trying to take her own life

Emily Owen, 19, was said to be struggling to cope with the prospect of her "world closing in" and had warned her family that people would take their own lives due to coronavirus isolation

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[altaguetta]

FBI Agents Kill Domestic Terror Suspect Who Was Planning Mass Casualty Attack Due To COVID-19

FBI Agents Kill Domestic Terror Suspect Who Was Planning Mass Casualty Attack Due To COVID-19 - Breaking911

BELTON, Mo. — The FBI says one of their agents fatally shot a domestic terror suspect Tuesday in 100th block of Wilbur Parish Circle in Belton. Officials say the suspect, 36-year-old Timothy Wilson, was angry with the government’s social distancing measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus...

breaking911.com

 

[snoopdoggie]

Just try not to panic. We're all going to get through this.

 

[sy barite]

So what if we're taking all of these drastic measures....but didn't have to? Problem is, we don't know enough about the virus, so all of the present steps can be seen as "better safe than sorry" measures. But, it is quite possible that this virus is no more deadly than the flu.

Right now, the mortality rates everyone is talking about are being calculated as an expression of confirmed cases. However, everyone agrees there are more cases out there than the confirmed. Question is, how many? It is a good bet that we know of everyone (or very close to everyone), who is dying of the virus. These people are in the hospitals. But the big unknown is how many people have symptoms or are asymptomatic, have the disease and have recovered or are recovering. We won't know these numbers until testing for both the virus and antibodies is more widely available. It is perfectly plausible to expect that the actual numbers of infected is far higher than any numbers we've seen in the media...and that would be good news because it would mean the virus is actually not as lethal as we have been fearing it is.

If that turns out to be the case...all of this disruption to our lives will have been for naught and it will turn out to be one hell of an expensive lesson in the value of preparedness. If (like South Korea), our society had been ready to conduct immediate thorough testing, we would have been armed with better knowledge and therefore been able to make better decisions.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

So what if we're taking all of these drastic measures....but didn't have to? Problem is, we don't know enough about the virus, so all of the present steps can be seen as "better safe than sorry" measures. But, it is quite possible that this virus is no more deadly than the flu.

Right now, the mortality rates everyone is talking about are being calculated as an expression of confirmed cases. However, everyone agrees there are more cases out there than the confirmed. Question is, how many? It is a good bet that we know of everyone (or very close to everyone), who is dying of the virus. These people are in the hospitals. But the big unknown is how many people have symptoms or are asymptomatic, have the disease and have recovered or are recovering. We won't know these numbers until testing for both the virus and antibodies is more widely available. It is perfectly plausible to expect that the actual numbers of infected is far higher than any numbers we've seen in the media...and that would be good news because it would mean the virus is actually not as lethal as we have been fearing it is.

If that turns out to be the case...all of this disruption to our lives will have been for naught and it will turn out to be one hell of an expensive lesson in the value of preparedness. If (like South Korea), our society had been ready to conduct immediate thorough testing, we would have been armed with better knowledge and therefore been able to make better decisions.

It is the Boys Scouts motto - Proper planning prevents poor performance. On the upside (?) there are other diseases out there waiting in the wings that could also turn into future pandemics. Hopefully lessons will be learned and the world will be ready for the next outbreak.

 

[ChubbyGuy]

It is the Boys Scouts motto - Proper planning prevents poor performance. On the upside (?) there are other diseases out there waiting in the wings that could also turn into future pandemics. Hopefully lessons will be learned and the world will be ready for the next outbreak.

Didn't they this after SARS? Or at least here in Ontario. Or MERS, Swine Flu....

Easy for me to say but a lot of "foot dragging" by politicians. All to do with $$$ (stalling economy).

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Didn't they this after SARS? Or at least here in Ontario. Or MERS, Swine Flu....

Easy for me to say but a lot of "foot dragging" by politicians. All to do with $$$ (stalling economy).

Whatever party we support we have to hold the elected accountable.

 

[loves to lick]

doesn't forward thinking start at the top with our prime minster-- yikes we are doomed

 

[loves to lick]

first they shit on him, now they are shitting on all of us

 

[therealcole]

We needed our borders closed 2 months ago. They should have shut down air / ship travel from the beginning like they did with 911. But as you say, they didn't know enough. You would think because of past scares, they would err on the side of caution!!! I'm sure the virus most likely would have found it's way here but not to the extent we have now. Where is our preparedness? - do we have any forward thinkers in our government?

Easy to quarterback with 20/20 hindsight.

 

[ChubbyGuy]

It's not so much hindsight - One of my faves was sick back in December with a cough. In January after the word got out about this virus, I was telling her we need to close our borders because her immune system was threatened and it would be hard for her to fight if she was around anyone who had it - The same for my girlfriend who's been ill too - Everyone that is close to me I've been saying this for months.

It was Canadians/PRs (travelling, business trip) and maybe even tourists that brought the virus over to Canada. The first were the two couples in Toronto (that I'm aware of).

 

[Shag]

It's not so much hindsight - One of my faves was sick back in December with a cough. In January after the word got out about this virus, I was telling her we need to close our borders because her immune system was threatened and it would be hard for her to fight if she was around anyone who had it - The same for my girlfriend who's been ill too - Everyone that is close to me I've been saying this for months.

It would have been a lot less painfull.

AND

still, governments are slow... like shut everything down for 3 week, if it moves whack it.

then slow and steady.

 

[Shag]

It was Canadians/PRs (travelling, business trip) and maybe even tourists that brought the virus over to Canada. The first were the two couples in Toronto (that I'm aware of).

Should have taken some precautions

they built a f'in hospital to handle the load.

 

[therealcole]

It's not so much hindsight - One of my faves was sick back in December with a cough. In January after the word got out about this virus, I was telling her we need to close our borders because her immune system was threatened and it would be hard for her to fight if she was around anyone who had it - The same for my girlfriend who's been ill too - Everyone that is close to me I've been saying this for months.

Close our borders for her? Unless she has traveled to Wuhan,China or was with someone who has traveled to Wuhan then she just had a cold/flu. Especially in December. Were they sick from the Coronavirus? Were they diagnosed at all? Could it have been a seasonal illness.
If you were saying to close the borders down in December then you have a bit of Nostradamus in you. Aside from some Epidemiologists and those in the know no one saw really it going this way in December. imho

 

[Pay2Play]

All the Massage Planet “experts” should step up and volunteer for the front lines.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

It has been a while since I started this thread. I am happy to have been wrong (condemn me at your pleasure, but be original): things are bad, but not as dire as I feared. Whatever you think of our federal, provincial and municipal politicians they appear to have done some good things. CERB and EI payments have likely mitigated a lot of problems for the working poor. The curve seems to be flattening. I personally have not seen significant unrest or increase in crime. On the downside there are predictions that the pandemic will drag on for two more years. CERB will likely have to extend beyond the current 16 weeks.

 

[krayjee]

You are not wrong . To be honest, things are pretty bad and much worse than we have thought. One thing for sure is life is never gonna be the same. Thank gawd we have some selfless leaders with common sense.

 

[sy barite]

Definitely not out of the woods. Things could yet go seriously sideways. If there's a meat shortage, stay out of my way.

 

[Mr Shibari]

You are not wrong . To be honest, things are pretty bad and much worse than we have thought. One thing for sure is life is never gonna be the same. Thank gawd we have some selfless leaders with common sense.

Sure life will never be the same but that’s always been the case. Everything is always changing, the key is to step out of the path of the bad things and score on the opportunities. This pandemic will create as much opportunity afterward as the misery during it. One man can’t pay his bills and loses his business or property and another man gets a business or property at a sweet deal. There will be so many winners after this. Stocks will be ripping. Even the losers will just Get to start over with a clean slate.

 

[Hangdai]

Definitely not out of the woods. Things could yet go seriously sideways. If there's a meat shortage, stay out of my way.

There’s definitely no shortage of ready to go sausage out there, lol