Treating Gout

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I have a new client who suffers with Gout in the leg joints. Any suggestions for treatments to ease pain, reduce swelling ect. I'm thinking lymphatic drainage followed by specific acupressure points through the legs. Ideas?
 


I don't, but just thought that I would mention that years ago my very young daughter was mis-diagnosed with gout when she actually had Lyme disease.
 


Be really careful when using acupressure points, the solid acids in the Cl's joints could dig into his tissue like needles. Some form of energy work like CST or Reiki might make more sense in this case, provided you client is comfortable with it.
Lymph tx would work pretty well if you worked on the whole body to stimulate the flushing, or at least take the strokes from the legs up to the heart to complete activated the right spots for flushing out the acid.
See how comfortable you client is with lots and lots of propping, too. Get his feet above his knees, his knees above his hips and experiment with angles of the bolsters, because gravity could really help getting things moving.

Could you refer you Cl to a good nutritionist to help too? Or is his/her gout not related to diet?
 


Thankyou both for your replys. I liked the idea of using gravity to help. In the end, I worked on the non-affected areas, I used Emmett points as they can be done indirectly to affect the area and then I worked on the general relaxation of my client. We talked about diet and they already have restrictions on certain foods. I did find out though, that they only drank about 3 gls water per day thinking this sufficient, I suggested increasing the amount, ideally up to 8-10 gls to help flush the uric acid through.
 


Wow, that's alotta water...I'm glad you were able to treat your client. My brother in law has gout and was refused massage once. He was crushed, I'm sure your client was thrilled with it!
 


You could always work indirectly with your client - not directly on the joints but at points above and below them GENTLY to increase flow of blood, lymph and so on through the joints not around them, and then advise client to follow Dr's orders regarding dietary changes, etc.
 


Diet plays a big part too. Try to see if your client would be willing to go on a meat free diet
 
Treating Gout

I would be wary about giving diet advice to a client, given the whole "scope of practice laws". The best thing to do in that situation would just be to refer out to a good nutritional therapist or even a specialist in gout treatment if one is available. They can run blood tests to see what the root of the problem is, because it can be different in everyone.
It's just better to make sure you cover your butt, so to speak. But check your own state laws to be sure!
 
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It really is all about diet, but there is that scope of practice thing. Basically, it's about decreasing the purines in the diet - so they need to cut back on the wines and cheeses and deli meats like salami and whatnot. The pain comes from uric acid crystals that surround the joint and eventually attack and erode it if they don't make the dietary changes. They lack the enzyme to finish the breakdown of dietary purine. Gout medication is not a good idea, as one of the side effects IS gout - the very disease it's claiming to "treat"!

When tiptoeing around scope of practice, I mention that my professors discussed it today, and that they mentioned that the only real remedy is diet (which is indeed what they said), and tell them they can research it, that it's easily findable on Google. I basically hint at--or act as a messenger regarding--the main idea and then encourage them to do their own research.

In the meantime, it is not a good idea at all to work the area locally. Instead, you might work the thumb joints or thumb finger pads (ask the client for feedback as to which spots are tender to firm palpation as you pinch various ways around the thumb), which might have a palliative reflex effect on the gout-affected area.

Hope that helps!
Hugs,
~Jyoti
 
Treating Gout

My grandmother has gout and she swears that eating black cherries stops the pain
 
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Homeopathy can help a lot. Worked like a charm for a client who got a case of gout whose diet is actually pretty stellar, but he has family members with it (whose diets are heavy in meat and alcohol too, I think).
 
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I worked with someone who had gout and he said that eating cherries helped prevent it. I'm not sure what the reasoning behind that was.

Otherwise, my mother has a tendency to have gout pain, but she controls it with pills, which I assume are prescribed to her by a doctor.

I hope you're feeling better soon, hurgoll.
 
Treating Gout

I sometimes suffer foot pain that has be diagnosed as gout. I used to work at a health food store, and the owner recommended the black cherry juice or dried black cherries. The rational, if I can remember correctly, was that there is something in the cherries that dissolves the uric acid crystals in the tissues, so no more pain. This is not a cure, the crystals will re-form, especially if the diet isn't changed, but hey, cherries are good for you and tasty enough to eat as a snack even if you don't have gout! :)
 
Treating Gout

One popular solution for the symptoms of gout is to eat fifteen to twenty cherries a day for treatment for gout. Fresh cherries are best, but canned cherries work too. Cherries have an enzyme that neutralizes uric acid and are high in anthocyanins, which have high antioxidant properties as well as anti-inflammatory action. I have used this method my gout treatment, may be it will help in yours gout problem.

http[colon]//gout-treatment[dot]org/gout-treatment.html
 
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    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  49. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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