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I think that before trying to explain the variations in Chinese medical practice, I ought to run through a summary of the basic theories first. I can see this being a long post .

Qi
Qi (or Chi) is the stuff of life. The early Taoists observed movement in the universe. They realised that nothing happens by itself and so pondered the origins, and from this devised the idea that Qi is the stuff that underlies all movement and function. It is that which holds the planets in the sky, it is that which can be felt when facing the sun. In human terms, it is that which provides the energy for metabolism and substance; nothing physical or emotional happens without qi involvement.

Qi exists in different forms simultanously. Using a candle as an example of the human body, qi is that which provides the physical form; the functional form can be thought of as the burning flame, and the heat can be felt as a different qi form. All expressions of qi in a different non-substantive state that could equate to the human "spirit" or unconcious.

Qi comes together at conception to form a new life, with qi inherited from the parents. The Taoists were looking for ways to "reunite" with the Tao or universe, and so developed ways of refining and transforming qi to a more "spiritual" form, called Shen. This Shen qi is the stuff of human spirituality, and resides in the body after being transformed from qi acquired from air and food. The organs all play a role in absorption, storage or transformation of qi, therefore sickness is represented as a disruption to the qi "mechanism". The Taoists realised that by circulating the qi through the body, it could be refined through physical and mental practices, hence the origins of Qi Gong and Tai Chi. There ultimate goal was to keep the body alive for long enough and healthily enough to fulfil their spiritual journey.

Through meditative practices, the ebb and flow of qi energy can be felt. This became the origin of the Channel theory; qi moves through all of the body structures, but there are areas of condensed flow, similar to the Gulf stream in the Atlantic. From there, they determined that distruption to the qi flow for some or other reason results in imbalance, the body no longer being in harmony either with itself or the wider universe. This flow can be "tapped" at access points, hence the acupuncture points known as "men" or gateway in Chinese.

The main list of events that can disrupt Qi flow is as follows-

Climactic factors, Wind, Cold, Damp and Heat, all of which may invade the body obstructing the channels
Inactivity; this creates stagnation in the movement of Qi as muscles and tendons tighten, they restrict Blood and Qi flow. This was especially relevent because of the many hours spent in meditation postures, and is still relevent due to modern lifestyles.
Emotions; Strong emotions, especially fear, anger, worry, frustration and so on were thought to "knot" Qi flow leading to internal inbalance. Qi once restricted may become "pressurised", creating internal disorders.
Diet; As we rely on diet to bring new Qi into the body, (along with air) a faulty diet can make qi difficult to absorb or transform. This especially includes cold foods, excessive amounts of rich foods, dairy foods and so on. Emotional factors were thought to affect digestion too.



Once the Qi flow is blocked, restoration of Qi flow is necessary to rebalance the body. This can be achieved in several ways-Expelling the pathogenic factors blocking the channelsCreating movement that encourages flow-this could be passive or active, hence tai chi or massage techniques.Resolve dietary faultsResolve emotional disturbanceBecause of the "cause and effect not different" view of the universe, emotional disharmony can be both the result of disturbed Qi flow, and/or the cause, hence someone often showing indications of severe worry may also exhibit digestive disorders, and vice versa. They are both part of the same pattern.

Disharmony may also result from, or cause, Qi deficiency. I like the analogy of a garden hose, with water in it, but turned off at the tap- not enough "pressure" in the system to move Qi. The water becomes stagnant if left long enough. Flow can also be disrupted by a foot on the pipe, even if there is enough pressure. From this comes the idea of Deficiency or Excess, which is one of the ways of begining to identify the main "flavour" of a pattern of disharmony. In practice several patterns may overlap, making diagnosis tricky. Stganation of qi means pain arising as a result of insufficient movement of Blood or Fluids.

In general, acupuncture is used (alongside other methods) to resolve Stagnation by stimulating Qi flow. It is also used to expel pathogens, often by causing sweating using strong techniques. It can also be used to "tonify" when Qi is deficient by stimulating the digestive and transformative functions. This is the basis for acupuncture as practiced in China today. However, there has been a hiatus in the development of CM during the late 19th and earlier 20th centuries, when there was an urge to "modernise". As I understand it, this never really happened to such a degree in places like Japan and Korea, and so different methods have evolves in these locations.

Variations have arisen as acupuncture came to the west. Five element acupuncture is a western variation on one particular methodological theory. This style is seldom practiced in China, being seen as outmoded. That's not to say it doesn't work, as many western practitioners will testify, it's just been superceeded by "new" ideas about "old" methods. The teaching of CM is supervised by the state, and there tends to be a defensiveness when it comes to other styles.

Another variation is Western Medical acupuncture. This attempts to explain the effects of acupuncture in biomedical terms, and is used primarily as an add-on technique by physios, GP's and osteopaths. There is usually derision for what is seen as outmoded theories of Qi, Yin/Yang etc. It worls well for musculoskeletal disorders, but usually is addressing "branch" symptoms rather than the "root" problem. It would not be used to say, tonify Deficient Qi as the language used doesn't allow it.

Other micro-systems have been devised, in which the idea that a small part of the body is a reflection of the rest. Auricular acupncture is one version, and often used in addiction clinics as it is quick, cheap and easy to learn. Being a western idea developed in France in the 1960's it tends to treat "symptoms" without looking at the person in their entirety. It can be helpful to get someone over the stress associated with addiction withdrawal, as a branch of the vagus nerve is stimulated which may slow heart and respiration rates experienced during anxiety. This is now being practiced by some CM practitioners. Other micro-systems exist, including Korean hand acupuncture.


There may be a name for this "school", but I'm not sure what it is. I studied TCM, which is the style of acupuncture taught in modern China, but this was after 15 years of studying Taoist principles and movement arts. The two are not usually linked in modern teaching, as the Chinese have mostly lost their connections with their early heritage, and stick to what is taught by the State. In the west we have had more open access to tai chi and qi gong than in China, so practitioners often develop simultaneous interests.

There, I'm all typed out. This is a very condensed version, of course, and like most things Chinese, open to other interpretations. I don't claim any expertise in this field!
 
Greetings from Thailand! Just been reading all the posts on this thread.

I have just finished studying Chi Nei Tsang, a form of bodywork based on the abdominal organs popularised by Mantak Chia. It is an intersting mixture of the the old (Trad Chinese Med) and the new (Western A&P). It's not just about the Qi and emotional associations but form that creates function (is there any difference in Qi, Emo & F/F in reality?). An interesting thing (in reference to K's post #20 about stiff necks) was a protocol to harmonise adrenal function (related to Kidney Qi) which reduces stiffness in necks. Oh those stressful burdens (sp) and responsibilities we place upon our shoulders, lol :-))

Anycase, does anyone have an estimate of acupuncturists who are unlicenced by local councils?

Best wishes

RP
 
That's great David - thanks for the clarity.

Following on from that: if somebody wanted to find treatment that was as true to the original vision of osteopathy as possible, and who was really applying the 'osteopathic hypothesis' and not just paying lip service to the defining principles, I would know where to send them: to a Classical Osteopath. That's a bit of a generalisation, I know plenty of practitioners whom I respect enormously who are not 'classicists', my point is trying to work out what is equivalent in your field, if that's not a naive question.

If somebody wanted to find the equivalent in Chinese Medicine, what sort of practitioner whould they search for? I know now that I would be unlikely to call upon a medical acupuncturist for anything, if all I wanted was an endorphin rush there must be easier ways to get it. So what kind of therapist would I look for who would really see and address the patterns of disturbance in entirety, without compromise or pandering to my western expectations or the need of the state to control?
 
I realised I missed out one major style of acupuncture, that being "trigger point" acupuncture. Again, it tends to be practiced by physios etc, but is a development of a chinese practice. "Ahshi" (ouch-that's where it really hurts) points are often needled directly in TCM, along with points relating to the area affected and any points to address constitutional or pathogenic factors. In western eyes these often correlate to trigger points which are palpable within muscle fibres which may refer pain to other areas. Often the pain distribution pathways are the same as the "channels" favoured by CM. Travel and Clavey did a seminal work on this knowing nothing about acupuncture. Often the trigger points also correlate to acupoints in classical TCM. GB 21 is a good example-located on the superior border of the trapezius, roughly midway between the acromium and C7- a trigger point here often refers pain along the temple and neck following the pathway of the GB channel, which may be mistaken for migraine type pain causing a stiff neck. This is why examination of a painful problem should include palpation along the pathways close to the affected areas, these being the channels not taught in western acupuncture.

In terms of finding someone from outside of mainstream hegemony, including both allopathic and Chinese medicine, you probably need to find someone thats served an old style apprenticeship under the eyes of a master. As you can imagine, they are few and far between, but they do exist. The rest of us have to try to work out what's real and what's less real by clinical evaluation. There's a saying in the classical martial arts world- "when the student is ready, the master will appear." Maybe something similar applies when looking for elusive "masters" of medicine!
 
A brief reading list for those interested in CM

Ted Kaptchuk- The Web that has no Weaver -2nd ed
This book broke the mold, and is the first recommended text on many TCM courses

Giovanni Macciocia- The Foundations of Chinese Medicine
This is really for trainee practitioners, but considered essential in UK based TCM teaching

Tom Williams- Chinese medicine- Acupuncture, herbal remedies, nutrition, qigong and meditation for total health. Vega press.
One of my personal favourites, a low cost and highly accessible introduction to TCM theories and applications.

Eva Wong- The Shambala guide to Taoism
Not a medical text, but explains the origins of the spiritual ideas that led to the CM system and philosophy

For the deeper reader-
Paul Unschuld- Medicine in China, a history of idea. This is a phd-level text, not for the uninitiated

Catherine Hsu- The transmission of chinese medicine
An account of observations of an old style healer in China

Harold D. Roth Original Tao
This one goes much further that the Tao te Ching, and is much more accessible

Volker Scheid- Chinese medicine in contemporary China- plurality and synthesis
One of the best books to explain the development of medicine in 20th C China

Please feel free to extend this list.
 
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    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday November 7th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco🔥😘 Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advance…it’s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working 💯😘❤️🥰 Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments 💯❤️🙏🏻 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  37. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese, Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  38. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & New Girl Angela are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, SALMA, ANGEL, LUCY, MEERA, MALIYA, NISHA, SARIKA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ❤️ Happy & Nayla are here today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  41. sunnyrocks:
    In GTA region
  42. sunnyrocks:
    Can someone suggest me some real deal breakers under 200hr and FS (no grannies and saggy ladies) preferably pvt condos or any discreet places ) its my forst time so fucking nervous!!!
  43. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 7, 2024, our attendants will be Ada 🤩, Cici 😍, Mia 🔥, Vicky 😘 and Lulu 🥰. Call 905-479-6668 to book
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  45. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️
  46. Shangri-la Spa:
    💆‍♀💖WooHoo Wed💜💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea —34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Doris— ready to pamper you🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text us 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits🙌
  47. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  48. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  49. wonderspa:
    weclome to Wonder spa ,(9421Jane st unit127)Wednesday Rmt on the duty.nice big boost Joy,sexy new girl Tiffany Provice deep tissue massage ,very good looking friendly lucy ,long hair
  50. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 girls here today: Some girls today have special service. Inquire with the ladies. ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. KIKI: A young, short & petite Taiwanese cutie, firm body, 5’2”, natural C Cups.
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