Using Arnica?

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Its the deer season opener this weekend - I would like to do a "Calm of the Wild" (get it? CALL of the wild!) Sportsman Special type thing. A more deep, sports oriented massage - These guys can get pretty stiff sore after a day in the field. I heard that Arnica is great for healing and sports massage - but how can I incorporate it into a massage? In what form do I use it? Anything else I can use? Sombra and Prossage would be good too.

**I dont like hunting of ANY kind....but after totalling two cars by hitting deer I am more inclined to believe in some population control!
 
Using Arnica

Hello, I use Arnica Oil brand name - Weleda. It has a woodsey smell and it works nicely to massage with. Massage catalogs and health food stores carry it. :D
 


ergh.. just lost my post..

anyway, cute idea.

i think that biotone dual purpose massage cream has arnica and ivy in it. arnica is very good for bruising, aches and pains (i have a horse trainer who swears by it). if that particular cream isn't it, i KNOW that one of their creams does have it.

do a search for 'arnica montana' and you will certainly find creams, ointments and such with this awesome ingredient.

good luck!
 


Yes, the biotone dual purpose cream has arnica and ivy extracts in it. I use it all the time. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't say how much arnica is in the cream. I personally use arnica gel on injuries, especially when my hands are sore, I rub it in. I wouldn't use it directly for massage, unless it is built into the product. I would apply it after the session in the effected areas, and educate my clients on the benefits of arnica as a suggested measure.
 


I also use the Weleda Arnica Oil and think it's fantastic! I use it full strength on my elderly clients. You know how how their skin gets thin and anytime they bump something they get the large bruise-like discolorations (especially when they are on blood-thinners?) Well, I put arnica oil on them and it really helps a lot. Some of my clients I even give them some to take home with them to use in between sessions.

I also add some of the arnica oil to my massage creme and I swear that it helps to prevent soreness in my hands.

Angie
 


Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php
 


Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.
 


Oh thanks so much guys - awesome information. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out right away!!!
 


Masthera said:
Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.

i'm pretty sure that's only if you ingest st. john's wart. i don't think an oil on the skin is going to mess with BCP.

i love arnica gel. i have not tried welda's because it contains lanolin. i've always heard that it actually dries you out. i do want to check out that mountain rose product. thanks for the link. :)
 


Masthera, I would tend to agree with Jillith, however I don't know for certain.

I emailed Mountain Rose Herb Company with your question and hope to hear a response from them soon. I have invited them to post their response directly or if I receive an email from them I will post their response.
 


I have a client who uses the Arniflora Arnica Gel.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml;$sessionid$00GYT2UZF0MQMCQUAOYCFEQKCQB00GXK?SkuID=588&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult

She swears by it.
 


I received this response from Mountain Rose Herb Company.
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Dear Kathy,

Unfortunately we will not be able to assist you as much as we would
like, because we are not licensed practitioners nor medical doctors.
Per FDA regulation, they forbid us from providing you with medical
advice, dosage information, potential drug/herb reactions, or assistance
with questions relating to injury, illness etc. While some of us are
knowledgeable herbalists; we are neither licensed medical practitioners,
nor pharmacists or researchers, and we are legally restricted from
answering your medical questions. Specifically, I am not familiar with
the Birth Control Pill in any way, and I would not be able to give you
an accurate answer because I do not know exactly how the Birth Control
Pill works or how it specifically affects the body. The only way you
can really get a thorough and accurate answer to this question would be
to find somebody who had specific knowledge about both materials in
question. We thank you for your understanding and recommend that you do
your own research, if appropriate, with the assistance of a licensed
practitioner, (Naturopath, nutritionist, pharmacist, medical doctor
etc.).
Our only recommendation at this point is to refer to one of several
links we have provided below.
We hope this helps and thank you for your understanding.
Regards and best wishes
Graham

The American Herbalists Guild
http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/

Herb Research Foundation
http://www.herbs.org

The Directory of Holistic Practitioners
http://www.diagnose-me.com/regional-X.html

The Holistic Junction
http://www.holisticjunction.com

Mountain Rose Herbs
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(800) 879-3337
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Subject: Question about St. John's Wort affecting birth control pills

Name: Kathy

Message: Hello. I am the administrator of massageplanet.com, a forum
for professional bodyworkers and massage practitioners which encourage
practitioners to discuss professional issues, products and other aspects
of our profession.

During a discussion about arnica I made a recommendation for your arnica
and St. John's wort massage oil. A question came up regarding the
effect of St. John's Wort on birth control pills. Could you please
address this concern?

Actual question: "When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) -
would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have
read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount
to matter?"

Link to the forum:
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3578

I would like to post your answer on the forum. If you would prefer to
address this question directly you are welcome to register to the site
and post your response.

Thank you,
Kathy
 


Thanks Intuitouch! :D

Here is some information about St. John's Wort from one of the links for anyone else that is interested: http://herbs.org/greenpapers/stjohnswort.htm

Within the information it states that there is no evidence that supports it having an effect on birth control pills.

Also here is something else that I found to be useful: http://www.holisticjunction.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=65
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธSami๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธSummer๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. Golden Flower Spa:
  36. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
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  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 New Add bookmark #199 We had three girls working today, Kiki Sarah and Vivi. 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga
  42. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin/Perky Ass/Sweet, Super Open-Minded bbbj cim cof rim, excellent service, also strong massage. SUGAR (10am-9pm): is young,petite, 5'1"
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and Cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, ELLA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina Q smile ,beautiful strong to relaxing oil massage,back walk,hot stone,more experience,relief your stress,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy, sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Luna deep message ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia Vietnamese Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School gir โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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