Using Arnica?

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Its the deer season opener this weekend - I would like to do a "Calm of the Wild" (get it? CALL of the wild!) Sportsman Special type thing. A more deep, sports oriented massage - These guys can get pretty stiff sore after a day in the field. I heard that Arnica is great for healing and sports massage - but how can I incorporate it into a massage? In what form do I use it? Anything else I can use? Sombra and Prossage would be good too.

**I dont like hunting of ANY kind....but after totalling two cars by hitting deer I am more inclined to believe in some population control!
 
Using Arnica

Hello, I use Arnica Oil brand name - Weleda. It has a woodsey smell and it works nicely to massage with. Massage catalogs and health food stores carry it. :D
 


ergh.. just lost my post..

anyway, cute idea.

i think that biotone dual purpose massage cream has arnica and ivy in it. arnica is very good for bruising, aches and pains (i have a horse trainer who swears by it). if that particular cream isn't it, i KNOW that one of their creams does have it.

do a search for 'arnica montana' and you will certainly find creams, ointments and such with this awesome ingredient.

good luck!
 


Yes, the biotone dual purpose cream has arnica and ivy extracts in it. I use it all the time. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't say how much arnica is in the cream. I personally use arnica gel on injuries, especially when my hands are sore, I rub it in. I wouldn't use it directly for massage, unless it is built into the product. I would apply it after the session in the effected areas, and educate my clients on the benefits of arnica as a suggested measure.
 


I also use the Weleda Arnica Oil and think it's fantastic! I use it full strength on my elderly clients. You know how how their skin gets thin and anytime they bump something they get the large bruise-like discolorations (especially when they are on blood-thinners?) Well, I put arnica oil on them and it really helps a lot. Some of my clients I even give them some to take home with them to use in between sessions.

I also add some of the arnica oil to my massage creme and I swear that it helps to prevent soreness in my hands.

Angie
 


Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php
 


Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.
 


Oh thanks so much guys - awesome information. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out right away!!!
 


Masthera said:
Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.

i'm pretty sure that's only if you ingest st. john's wart. i don't think an oil on the skin is going to mess with BCP.

i love arnica gel. i have not tried welda's because it contains lanolin. i've always heard that it actually dries you out. i do want to check out that mountain rose product. thanks for the link. :)
 


Masthera, I would tend to agree with Jillith, however I don't know for certain.

I emailed Mountain Rose Herb Company with your question and hope to hear a response from them soon. I have invited them to post their response directly or if I receive an email from them I will post their response.
 


I have a client who uses the Arniflora Arnica Gel.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml;$sessionid$00GYT2UZF0MQMCQUAOYCFEQKCQB00GXK?SkuID=588&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult

She swears by it.
 


I received this response from Mountain Rose Herb Company.
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Dear Kathy,

Unfortunately we will not be able to assist you as much as we would
like, because we are not licensed practitioners nor medical doctors.
Per FDA regulation, they forbid us from providing you with medical
advice, dosage information, potential drug/herb reactions, or assistance
with questions relating to injury, illness etc. While some of us are
knowledgeable herbalists; we are neither licensed medical practitioners,
nor pharmacists or researchers, and we are legally restricted from
answering your medical questions. Specifically, I am not familiar with
the Birth Control Pill in any way, and I would not be able to give you
an accurate answer because I do not know exactly how the Birth Control
Pill works or how it specifically affects the body. The only way you
can really get a thorough and accurate answer to this question would be
to find somebody who had specific knowledge about both materials in
question. We thank you for your understanding and recommend that you do
your own research, if appropriate, with the assistance of a licensed
practitioner, (Naturopath, nutritionist, pharmacist, medical doctor
etc.).
Our only recommendation at this point is to refer to one of several
links we have provided below.
We hope this helps and thank you for your understanding.
Regards and best wishes
Graham

The American Herbalists Guild
http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/

Herb Research Foundation
http://www.herbs.org

The Directory of Holistic Practitioners
http://www.diagnose-me.com/regional-X.html

The Holistic Junction
http://www.holisticjunction.com

Mountain Rose Herbs
A Herbs Health & Harmony Company
PO Box 50220
Eugene, OR 97405
(800) 879-3337
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com

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Subject: Question about St. John's Wort affecting birth control pills

Name: Kathy

Message: Hello. I am the administrator of massageplanet.com, a forum
for professional bodyworkers and massage practitioners which encourage
practitioners to discuss professional issues, products and other aspects
of our profession.

During a discussion about arnica I made a recommendation for your arnica
and St. John's wort massage oil. A question came up regarding the
effect of St. John's Wort on birth control pills. Could you please
address this concern?

Actual question: "When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) -
would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have
read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount
to matter?"

Link to the forum:
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3578

I would like to post your answer on the forum. If you would prefer to
address this question directly you are welcome to register to the site
and post your response.

Thank you,
Kathy
 


Thanks Intuitouch! :D

Here is some information about St. John's Wort from one of the links for anyone else that is interested: http://herbs.org/greenpapers/stjohnswort.htm

Within the information it states that there is no evidence that supports it having an effect on birth control pills.

Also here is something else that I found to be useful: http://www.holisticjunction.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=65
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  33. wilson holistic centre:
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  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  37. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  39. wilson holistic centre:
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  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLily Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  44. DareDevil:
    SUNDAY SUPER LINEUP! ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  46. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. SHAYLA
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