Chat Vaccination not equal to bullet proof

If the government really wants to beat covid, they would bring in drugs for early treatment as quickly as possible. In fact, these drugs have been readily available for some time now, but for some strange reason been withheld from use. It's not true vaccines are the only option we have. There are people who will not take them under any circumstances because they consider them too dangerous, no matter what the government propaganda says. Alternative drugs will keep people out of the ICU and should be used if the govt is truly concerned and isn't just acting as a mouthpiece for the vaccine manufacturers.

How does your suggestion of the use of Alternative drugs (whatever they might be) square with your negative stance on vaccines? In both cases you're putting a foreign substance into your body.
 
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How does your suggestion of the use of Alternative drugs (whatever they might be) square with your negative stance on vaccines? In both cases you're putting a foreign substance into your body.
The vaccines have a well-proven track record of producing blood clots and killing people. Alternative drugs like Ivermectin have been in use for decades against other diseases. They don't produce blood clots, and are therefore a lot safer.
 
How does your suggestion of the use of Alternative drugs (whatever they might be) square with your negative stance on vaccines? In both cases you're putting a foreign substance into your body.
Is made in Quebec. This is why some people are frustrated with people who talked against something without knowing all the facts.
 
The vaccines have a well-proven track record of producing blood clots and killing people. Alternative drugs like Ivermectin have been in use for decades against other diseases. They don't produce blood clots, and are therefore a lot safer.

Invermectin is safer? Read this.

 
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If people are hesitant or doubt the efficacy, then I don't think they understand what's happening around them. Now, I don't address this to those who maintain it's all a lie. If you are among those who do not believe the numbers are real, then we don't have a basis for conversation. But if you are not putting it all down to conspiracy, then the fact an increasing number of covid cases are among the vaxxed should not come as a surprise. With an ever increasing portion of the population vaccinated, it stands to reason that of those who will be infected are the vaxxed . After all, as I've said before, if the vaccine truly is even 95% effective, that still translates into hundreds of thousands of probable cases in Canada alone. What one should keep an eye on is the development of serious covid cases among the vaxxed, and so far, that's incredibly low. The last I heard, if you're double vaxxed you have a one in 27000 chance of getting seriously ill or dying from covid. What about the unvaxxed? Will, there's no point in discussing them. We already know what the virus and its variants do in unvaccinated populations. If you don't want the vaccine, well that's your choice.

The numbers tell the story. Using the U.S. as an example, deaths are at about 300 per day and the unvaccinated comprise more than 99.9% of those. In Ontario we had two covid deaths yesterday. The vaccine works. That's your story.
Where are the stats that show that 99.9% of every covid death in the US is from unvaccinated?
 
The following is not insider info, it's on the news

Ontario government reports 578 new COVID-19 cases, 2 deaths | Globalnews.ca

.....the most recent data posted on Friday (in Ontario) showed 11 people in general hospital wards due to COVID-19 were fully vaccinated while 74 were either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. For those in ICUs, one was fully vaccinated while 57 were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.

I again want to stress, vaccination helps but not 100% therefore we should still need to take precautions, including wearing a mask in an enclosed area. I have taken the vaccine and I believe everyone should do it. It at least helps to reduce the harm by COVID 19, in case you have it. It's worrisome that one fully vaccinated still ended up in ICU last Friday. I think the only way to put this pandemic behind us is when we have a drug that can effectively cure the illness. Merck is doing a 3 stage trial on one for treating less severe COVID 19 cases. I hope it will be successful and gets to the market soon.
 
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Invermectin is safer? Read this.

The FDA is controlled by the vaccine industry and puts out their propaganda. My own take on this is that the jew-ridden US government naturally co-operates with jew-run Big Pharma. You may, of course, reject this interpretation. For a true picture of Ivermectin's effectiveness, one must look to India, not the USA.
 
I don't care if your business is going broke or that you are unable to do the things you want to do. There's no fucking way I'm getting that vaccine.
 
I don't care if your business is going broke or that you are unable to do the things you want to do. There's no fucking way I'm getting that vaccine.
Yeh, we all know that you dumbass.

Just let us know when you finally get Covid and become a statistic. Document your Covid journey for us on video and tell us all how your alternative medicine treatment work. Until then, STFU.
 
You are saying you donโ€™t want to do stuff? You enjoy the lockdowns? If you read my latest post, I definitely did direct my frustration at the government. They made a mess out of everything. It sucks but in the end, we will still not get any further ahead by harping on the government alone. The numbers are changing, and they are affecting those who are not protected at pretty much exactly the rate that the projected vaccine efficacy was advertised at. So, we can all be mad at the governmentโ€ฆ. But we still have a problem. The fact is that it is affecting one group approximately 80-90% more. So, while we sit here and bicker back and forth about who fucked up what, people are getting sick, and the numbers that are driving the reopening or re-closing of the province/country are headed in the wrong direction. How is any of this arguing going to actually fix anything ? For those who oppose the vaccine based solution for how to beat Covid, I ask you thisโ€ฆ.

What do you think the solution is? It is very apparent that the whole world is gripped by this thing. Some countries are far more lucky than others to have the funds and the infrastructure to procure enough vaccines to protect their populations but many if not most havenโ€™t. If vaccines arenโ€™t the answer, what is?

Please donโ€™t say that it is all a hoax or conspiracy. Too many people have died, too many have had permanent damage to themselves done by this thing, too many people and families have lost everything during the lockdowns to disrespect the destruction the virus has caused.

What should the plan be then?
I do not accept your premise, therefore a plan is not needed. I am free to lead my life and make my decisions.
US allows diseased people to flood over its southern border and then disperse them across the Country. 0bama has a super spreader birthday party. Folks with more information than me are not afraid of the Rona.
It should be obvious the masks do not work as does locking down businesses is a complete failure.
Results do not matter to a politician, only a strong showing of caring and action.
If the CDNC cooks the books in Florida by 100,000 cases to embarrass its Governor, you have to dismiss everything from that agency.
If it were real science rather than politics, they would look at potential cures like Ivermectin which has great results in other nations, but no it is outlawed, and experimental vaccines are mandated.
You are saying you are a good person who follows the rules for the greater good if you wear your mask and get your vax, both of which do nothing to stop Rona. You are virtuous and sinless if you wear your mask since you truly do care about your fellow man by putting toilet paper on your face. This is the ultimate virtue signal for the entire world to see, you care more than anyone else.
We've become a nation of compulsive germophobes who see virus cells everywhere in every situation. We forgot these virus cells are affected by the sun and wind.
 
Anyone else ever heard of 12 year olds getting heart attacks before the covid vaxx roll out?

Yeah me neither.

Anyone who attempts to justify causing a child irreversible heart damage for a disease they have a 99.998% chance of surviving does not merit further conversation, they merit compound skull fractures.
 
The FDA is controlled by the vaccine industry and puts out their propaganda. My own take on this is that the jew-ridden US government naturally co-operates with jew-run Big Pharma. You may, of course, reject this interpretation. For a true picture of Ivermectin's effectiveness, one must look to India, not the USA.

I read the desertreview.com article, and it's written as if everyone in India is on Invermectin, however there is zero data in it as to how many people actually took it, so one should be cautious about drawing cause and effect conclusions. Also read the comments under the article, and there are a bunch of comments in there which call the article BS.

And who is the desertreview.com, located in Brawley California, basically in the middle of nowhere? To you they're a more reliable source that the FDA?

As for Invermectin, its purpose is for treatment of parasites, not viruses, primarily in animals. And a parasite is not a virus.
 
You guys are pieces of work.
Iโ€™m tapping out of this discussion. Itโ€™s all the same BS quoting random non medical sites and propaganda. Complete garbage. And for all the research done against vaccines, not one of you have a single suggestion on what to do to fix it.
 
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Your point about, 'pretty much all scientists...' is far from correct

It's totally correct. There is scientific consensus, backed by data from everywhere. Covid vaccinations dramatically lower your chances of catching covid, and well as dramatically lowering your odds of being hospitalized or dying if you get a breakthrough infection.

You can find renegade scientists who will disagree with anything. There are scientists who disagree with evolution and argue humans co-existed with dinosaurs etc. Scientific consensus does not require unanimity.

I donโ€™t care what you do with your body and health, none of my business, just donโ€™t stick your nose in on mine.

How did I stick my nose into your business? You replied to me! Feel free to do whatever you wish with your body. But don't kid yourself that it's strictly your own personal business when it imperils the health of others.
 
Despite getting my 7th Covid shot last Oct. 16 I contracted Covid a month later. Up until then I had been Covid-free.

I'm 78, with a few co-morbidities, so I was at risk for serious Covid.

However when I did get it, it was just like a very mild head cold for a couple of days, for which I credit the vaccinations.

Because I had the rapid home test lying around I decided to test myself.

To my surprise I tested positive for Covid. No fever or other symptoms, just the sniffles.

So I called my pharmacy right way and asked for Paxlovid, which is the current treatment of choice to minimize the infection. I think the charge for the drug was less than $20.00

It is important to start Paxlovid within the first 5 days of symptoms.

So I took the full course of Paxlovid, 3 pills twice a day for 5 days. After 3 days the sniffles resolved, and after 5 days I tested negative on the home test.

HOWEVER, I am one of the 25% of people who take Paxlovid and got a rebound case with a positive test a week later. This after experiencing very mild sniffles again.

I called the pharmacy, who advised they don't prescribe a second dose of Paxlovid, and that I should expect to be Covid-free again in no more than 5 days.

Their prediction was true, and 5 days later, no more sniffles, and another negative test.

I have zero regrets about all the vaccinations I got, and thank goodness Paxlovid was available to make sure my case was mild.

Btw most people, myself included, experience a very unpleasant metallic taste in their mouths while taking Paxlovid...
 
Hi stop telling lies. The only way out of COVID 19 is vaccination. All data from around world shows. If you are an illiterates cave person it is better go back to your cave and stop effecting peoples' live negatively. It seems you are a sore loser.
Funny enough, I caught COVID after 2 vax and a flu shot! Sick as shit for 2 weeks, even after 2 vax.
And I can tell you this, I was with a Richmond Hill girl a few days before I started feeling ill.
 
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    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Bonnie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  29. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday April 28, 2025, our attendants will be Sandy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Mia ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  30. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  31. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Sunday Schedule โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทYumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  32. Dreaminn:
    We are open 7 days a week: 10am to 2am Walk-ins are welcome, or call today and book your favorite dream girl ๐Ÿ‘ผ ๐Ÿ“Address: 10225 Yonge St, Richmond Hill, ON L4C 3B2 ---> Google Maps www.dreaminnwellnessspa.com ๐Ÿ“žPhone: 647-829-2983 ๐ŸŒค๏ธNewly opened spa with super spacious rooms. All rooms equipped with private showers, comfortable super wide spa beds and sofas๐ŸŒค๏ธ Sugar Taiwanese Sugar is new to Canada ,with the body of a model and face of an angel ,she is backed with unforgettable skills ,
  33. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” Yui, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Doris, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Cocoโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Sophia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Lvy ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Bobo , Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  36. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Sunday Schedule โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทYumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy weekend,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…long hair big big boob Joey is very good looking,,amazing the end, open maid, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธSummer Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. DareDevil:
    ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Busty Girl Faye, Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญFAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. Golden Flower Spa:
  42. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  43. Pink Flower Spa:
  44. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Sunday Schedule โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทYumi 24, Philippine girl , 36EE big boobs and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  45. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY (12:30pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with 36DD sexy body open mind, with sexy Coco and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet student 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and young fun Yoyo 30โ€™s with 36DD sexy body open mind, young flirty Michelle 25โ€™s with sexy body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. HollywoodSpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: JUDY & YUKI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž JUDY is friendly and attractive. Come & give her a try. YUKI is a slim & exiting, happy lady. Nice massage & services available. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls.
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bobo, Vivian & Cindy. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Vivian is an attractive slim Vietnamese honey with C Cups, who can sweeten your day with daty, bj and cfs Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
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