Question Valarie @ Premier

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I saw Valarie at Pure last year (2021) and I was underwhelmed by her service and never repeated. She just joined Twitter and according to her Twitter she is more open minded now. I want to see if anyone has had a recent experience and if her sessions have improved.
 
She doesn't like being touched. So doesn't matter how hot she is as she's a complete waste of time.
That's not true, she doesn't like to be touched if you don't buy extras. What I don't understand is how her pricing at the SPA is so much higher then at Mirage Escorts.
 
That's not true, she doesn't like to be touched if you don't buy extras. What I don't understand is how her pricing at the SPA is so much higher then at Mirage Escorts.

I presume her pricing at Mirage is just whatever the posted rates are, but what is her pricing at the spa?
 
I presume her pricing at Mirage is just whatever the posted rates are, but what is her pricing at the spa?
At Mirage Escorts her rates are 200 for 30 Min and 300 for 60 Min which includes BBBJ and CFS. At the SPA as recently as this weekend she was asking 150 for CFS with CBJ and 200 for CFS with BBBJ.
 
Oh great, she left Premier but now she's bringing that same mentality to Seduction as Kitana.
Good luck to ya'll that get suckered in.
Honestly she is a weird girl as she is very different at Mirage vs. at Premier. I thought the reason was maybe she just didn't like Premier and she would be more like her Mirage self at Seductions.
 
She's not very bright if she thinks working at Seduction will improve her situation.
Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.
 
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Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.
I go to Perla regularly and parking lot spaces taken and used seem almost equal for both establishments slightly leaning towards Elevate. Valerie was always available at Pure despite being pretty. That tells you alot and I also think her reputation will follow her to Elevate. I think a lot of the criticism Val receives is because of her attitude. I have wanted to book Valerie but I won't based on reviews of her attitude. She's perfect for Seduction/Elevate. A great match.
 
Who knows. Elevate gets a lot of foot traffic, and a lot of customers who just want a quick in-and-out session. That's a residual of it formerly being Flirt and the establishment holding on to a lot of the old customer base since the transition. I've only been in a few times since, but it feels more like Flirt than the Seductions on Keele, even after re branding. I don't get the sense all the girls are drinking and doing blow in the back, which is absolutely the sense I get at Seductions, esp. on a Saturday night.

I've been to the Elevate/Perla plaza a few times over the past few months, and every time I go, the Elevate parking lot seems a bit busier vs. the Perla one. I think people on these boards tend to overestimate how representative they are of the overall client base. A huge number of guys just pop in and ask for the lineup, then select the prettiest girl they see. Kitana/Val is very pretty, so on that alone, she's going to get decent business, you would assume.

As I've pointed out before, I don't think the hate is warranted. I've had lots worse sessions at Premier than I had with Val. She's nice, attractive, and gave me a good service. And there wasn't a wild upsell either. So I dunno....to each their own? Sounds like it.

I wish her well.

Premier is going super downhill
 
I don't quite understand the heat Valerie gets.

I've had two sessions with her and I thought she was really good both times. Her BJ skills are first rate, and she was very sexual/sensual in the room. She's also gorgeous.

My best guess is that she's just YMMV. Not all girls fake it that well, and let's be honest...some of the guys who come in are really dirty/fat/gross. But as long as you're not disgusting, and are clean, and are nice...she's going to give you a good session.

I think I'll try to book her soon. I will come back and tell you all how good it was.
i might be able to provide some insight here. i know valerie. the heat valerie gets is because she actually believes that she is simply better than every other premier girl, and so she charges double the standard (and premier recommended) rates and is hilariously offended the second a client has the ”nerve” to not pay double for the same/worse service. the “nerve” to tell her, no i’m not going to pay your ridiculous rates. by rejecting the idea that she is not literally worth 2x as much as every other premier girl, you’ve already ruined your chance of having a “good session” with this girl. so what if she’s “sensual and gorgeous”? she’s no more sensual and no more gorgeous than any other premier girl, she just thinks she is and you sir are stupid enough to have fallen for that weird and hilariously ridiculous scheme.

the problem is not that most clients are “fat, dirty or gross”. the problem is that she is a fragile stuck up idiot and most clients aren’t a fan of that type of person. she does not conduct herself in a normal, straightforward way. she is manipulative, but she’s so dumb that most people (except for you apparently) see right through her half-assed schemes. she cannot confront the idea that there is a possibility that she’s actually no better than any other girl at premier, and could in fact be much worse lol.

“valerie”, good fucking luck at elevate as “kitana” and i’m so happy :D that you were finally fired from premier. you might be pretty, but it’s all for nothing for the disgusting look you constantly have on your face. this girl despite being asian will age terribly lol. you’re not smart. you’re not funny. you’re not kind. you’re not likeable. you’re not trustworthy. you’re fucked. you are a clown, but we’re all laughing at you. not with you lol.

and you sir are a bit dumb in my opinion for not seeing her clearly here.
 
i might be able to provide some insight here. i know valerie. the heat valerie gets is because she actually believes that she is simply better than every other premier girl, and so she charges double the standard (and premier recommended) rates and is hilariously offended the second a client has the ”nerve” to not pay double for the same/worse service. the “nerve” to tell her, no i’m not going to pay your ridiculous rates. by rejecting the idea that she is not literally worth 2x as much as every other premier girl, you’ve already ruined your chance of having a “good session” with this girl. so what if she’s “sensual and gorgeous”? she’s no more sensual and no more gorgeous than any other premier girl, she just thinks she is and you sir are stupid enough to have fallen for that weird and hilariously ridiculous scheme.

the problem is not that most clients are “fat, dirty or gross”. the problem is that she is a fragile stuck up idiot and most clients aren’t a fan of that type of person. she does not conduct herself in a normal, straightforward way. she is manipulative, but she’s so dumb that most people (except for you apparently) see right through her half-assed schemes. she cannot confront the idea that there is a possibility that she’s actually no better than any other girl at premier, and could in fact be much worse lol.

“valerie”, good fucking luck at elevate as “kitana” and i’m so happy :D that you were finally fired from premier. you might be pretty, but it’s all for nothing for the disgusting look you constantly have on your face. this girl despite being asian will age terribly lol. you’re not smart. you’re not funny. you’re not kind. you’re not likeable. you’re not trustworthy. you’re fucked. you are a clown, but we’re all laughing at you. not with you lol.

and you sir are a bit dumb in my opinion for not seeing her clearly here.

I never paid her anywhere near double for services. I'm sorry if that's what she quoted when you saw her. I was only slightly above normal rates (i.e. 20 bucks or so).

As for the rest, you just sound bitter. So maybe she didn't like you? Who knows.

I've had far worse sessions before. In fact, I had one a few weeks ago at Pure, that was probably one of the weakest ever. But I also had a 10/10 session on the weekend. So it evens itself out, and there's no sense dwelling on the ones that don't work out so well.

If you didn't have a good session with Valerie, just go see some other girl and move on. Really, who cares. It's not like she's out shooting her mouth off on boards or on social media about the customers or anything like that. I stand by what I said. Val is a nice girl who is more YMMV than anything else. The hate is undeserved.
 
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I never paid her anywhere near double for services. I'm sorry if that's what she quoted when you saw her. I was only slightly above normal rates (i.e. 20 bucks or so).

As for the rest, you just sound bitter. So maybe she didn't like you? Who knows.

I've had far worse sessions before. In fact, I had one a few weeks ago at Pure, that was probably one of the weakest ever. But I also had a 10/10 session on the weekend. So it evens itself out, and there's no sense dwelling on the ones that don't work out so well.

If you didn't have a good session with Valerie, just go see some other girl and move on. Really, who cares. It's not like she's out shooting her mouth off on boards or on social media about the customers or anything like that. I stand by what I said. Val is a nice girl who is more YMMV than anything else. The hate is undeserved.
it’s interesting that you’ve decided to write me off as a bitter asshole rather than seeing the bigger picture here. do you really think your unfathomable positive opinion of valerie discredits what me and 95% of other commenters think of her? if there’s no use dwelling on bad experiences why are you even responding to my message? and really, you’re asking who cares? clearly, it’s you.

but sure, stand by what you say and see where your odd and hilariously delusional ideas take you. have fun living in a fantasy world being manipulated by awful people. guess that’s comfortable to you, friend. how can you believe it’s simply ymmv when it’s not just a few people who don’t like her; it’s the collective opinion of this site and of premier, as they fired her. apparently she was also borderline abusive to several other girls at pure. what makes you think the hate is undeserved? name one positive quality valerie has, because she certainly isn’t “nice”. she pretends to be nice to get what she wants. if you don’t give her what she wants (ego inflation, money), she will treat you like a literal piece of shit. i think you just like being treated like a piece of shit, because you know somewhere deep down that that is what you are ❤️
 
it’s interesting that you’ve decided to write me off as a bitter asshole rather than seeing the bigger picture here. do you really think your unfathomable positive opinion of valerie discredits what me and 95% of other commenters think of her? if there’s no use dwelling on bad experiences why are you even responding to my message? and really, you’re asking who cares? clearly, it’s you.

but sure, stand by what you say and see where your odd and hilariously delusional ideas take you. have fun living in a fantasy world being manipulated by awful people. guess that’s comfortable to you, friend. how can you believe it’s simply ymmv when it’s not just a few people who don’t like her; it’s the collective opinion of this site and of premier, as they fired her. apparently she was also borderline abusive to several other girls at pure. what makes you think the hate is undeserved? name one positive quality valerie has, because she certainly isn’t “nice”. she pretends to be nice to get what she wants. if you don’t give her what she wants (ego inflation, money), she will treat you like a literal piece of shit. i think you just like being treated like a piece of shit, because you know somewhere deep down that that is what you are ❤️

Or maybe I just had good experiences with Val?

I'm sorry if that bothers you!

PS I think it's pretty clear you're another Pure attendant. Just relax. She's gone, and you got your way. Move on and let it go.
 
If a girl can't give at least a decent/good session for the standard price of $150 for hh/ 40 min, thats a big red flag. Candyman its good that you've clicked, you can have her.
 
Or maybe I just had good experiences with Val?

I'm sorry if that bothers you!

PS I think it's pretty clear you're another Pure attendant. Just relax. She's gone, and you got your way. Move on and let it go.

LeeAvalon is telling the truth though as much as it may hurt you to read it. Valerie is trash and a waste of time.
 
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    Nu Spring Spa❤️‍🔥sexy hot sweet Japanese 🌸 Singapore 🌸girls working at Markham ☎️416-669-8508🚗7-15 Karachi dr Markham close Costco ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Summer -🔥A sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  36. wonderspa:
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  37. Sunrise Spa:
    😘 We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto 😘 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor 😘 Today is Tina, Jennifer and Sophia 😘 416-916-7276
  38. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna😘- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Thursday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & <New Girl> CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. New girl. details later.
  40. ASPA:
    𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄👅👅🈵🈵
  42. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅🥳
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️EMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Today🌸Aletta🌸Alisa🌸Isabella🌸Nina🌸Selina Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30’s open mind with big buttocks and young new pretty Lily 25’s with curve body,Young sweet Vivian 22’s, cute GFE Ella and sexy naughty Tina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Meet🌸LuLu🌸Valentina🌸KarlaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  50. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎️416-988-2950
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