What about Indonesia?

I heard that the Balinese still hold on to their soft nature, and it is the non-Balinese (migrating from Java,so I heard) that has 'ruined' the real Balinese atmosphere in Bali.

But I also believe, there are some bad eggs in Balinese themselves, and combined by non-locals bad nature, it changes Bali to worse nowadays.

I heard that the governor of the island has threatened to disintegrate from Indonesia if Bali is forced to enforce some of Shariah (Islamic) law there. Manado (North Sulawesi) also did the same thing.
 

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I would strongly suggest that the two in the original photo are katoeys, unlike the latest posting, who looks delightful.
 

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eur11, We were actually planning on going back to Bali but the airlines are making it pretty hard to get there which is why we are going to Thailand.

I thought the Balinese sense of humour was the best.

We were walking down a small lane way when a shopkeeper asked me if the young girl with was my daughter (which she was) and then asked if I wanted a Balinese son-in-law. This cracked me up but the look on my 14 year old was priceless.:eek:
 

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Wonderdog there are plenty of cheap packages to Bali at the moment.....

Where have you been looking?

richone. delightful is an understatement, she is wonderful 555555
 

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Checked out Flightcentre and Jetstar and some other travel agents. After reading about jetstar's not so great service on balitravelforum but I found most meant going via Sydney or Melbourne.

I chase to cheap packages and just extend the return flight then find your own accom for the balance. Stayed in Seminyak in a 2 bedromm villa with our own pool and housekeeper for ten days, cheaper then a hotel/resort when taking the family.
 

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Mate you can do better..... go have a good look somewhere esle and post your findings here. U should be able to go via Syd only but make sure u dont carry a boogie bag...............sweet, let me know how u go

Come on.........if u want some help pm me
 

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oh BTW good forum it is balitravel, should answer all ur Q's
 

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There's a place called Pankor Laot (or Laouk)-Emerald Bay in the Straits of Malacca,that looks worth a visit.Think it belongs to Malaysia.That whole area looks idyllic to me,and maybe a better option for land ownership than Thailand or Indo...
 

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My thoughts too Richone ....

Once saw a National Geographic programe where had some serious academic researcher finding they have 5 'sexes' in some parts of Indon ... so katoey problem there as well :( .
 
thin white duke,

it's called pangkor laut.
it's part of malaysia.
haven't been there yet but it's supposed to be very nice (for couples)


cheers M.
 
Thanks Dr M,are you a permanent resident in Malaysia? Is it a bit more 'farang friendly' than Thailand as far as land ownership,visa's,financial risk goes?

Cheers in advance
 
no worries duke!

yes, i am permanent resident but on tourist visa as my business is internet based and i cannot get working permit so easy but still possible if you have connections.
i think malaysia is much more farang friendly for investing money and visa matters, yes.
you get tourist visa on arrival for free and can stay 3 months. i do this 4,5 years already, no problems ever. you can also do the "malaysia my second home" program. i think you have to deposit about 200 000 ringit (2 million baht) in a bank here then you can stay forever without visa runs.
for me it's no problem at all to leave every 3 months (phuket only 1 hour flight) and airasia has it's hub here...
buy property also no problem. i think only rule is that prop has to be worth more than 200 000 ringit (45 000 euros) but not sure bout that.
well, the downside here is the high price of alcohol and not so many working girls than thai. the p4p scene is no comparison to los, of course. well, i just took indonesian lady from beach club last night---nice!!! but more expensive (2500 baht) i also feel that thai people are more friendly and smile more than here. in general thai is more fun!
advaneforum.xxxe here: it's easier here to find "quality girls" as education level is higher , i think. but not so sure as i only go to thailand for holiday and BG's :-)
i really like TG's a lot but here you can get malay, indian, chinese, philipinas, indonesian...
KL is not as stressful as bangkok. traffic still ok.
food is way better than thai.
but to be honest, i think about moving to other country as i get a bit bored after 4 years here :-)

cheers M.
 
I'm not that fussy and would be quite 'happy' with either in the pic.... I would like to go to Indonesia. Looks like a hell of a place to visit... I would prefer to do Cambodia first tho.... After that I will definatly consider Indonesia.
 
Pitty about the north taht nobody goes too. Lovina Beach is beautiful, quite afew spots where nobody goes - you can have streches of beach to your self. And over on Lombok - if you like to surf, take the Boogie Board (with or with out party acessories) cus you will find great break. Lombok locals are la very high perceneforum.xxxe muslum, so they will leave the waves for you, but they will 'spit' on you if you walk past them, so yeh - I don't go to Bali or lombok any more, Might go back in a few years to check it out again, but I found Thailand, just so much better, especially the FOOD!

A-ROY-MUK MUK !
 
Marine park is what you mean I guess? Bunaken is meant to be great diving, but there is another place if you're around that area: the Togean islands. They're in Tomini Bay, the big bay surrounded by North Sulawesi. The diving is awesome, and you stay on a remote island with very few facilities - it's not for all but we spent six months there running the diving for one of the resorts and thought it was beautiful. Power is on generators so only on from 6pm to about 10:30pm, no internet, no landline phones, mobile reception just appeared when we were there almost a year ago. It's a real desert island destination. The diving is at least as good as Bunaken, with fewer people getting in your way and great viz most of the time. Also great for losing weight as the diet is fish and rice :) We both shed about 10 kg in six months... no junk food or munchies.

Everyone says the people in Manado are the most beautiful in Indonesia, I've heard ot from the locals as well as from westerners :) And yes, as sad as it may sound, I too felt safer there just because it's mostly Christian. Not that westerners are usually targeted but even so, Central Sulawesi made me a little nervous.

I'd like to go back sometime and 'do' Lombok, the Gilis, Komodo, Papua... but we'll see if/when we have a chance.
 
:ytounge: :biggrinlo ahahahaha


Yes, if you are more into seeing the scenery and 'low profile' night life, there are quite a few places in Indonesia you can visit, apart from Bali.


Lombok is beautiful, and yes, just watch out for the population is Moslem majority.




Whoa! You know more than I do, in this case! :) I went to Manado once, and only for 2 nights. I have some friends there who showed me around in between my hectic work schedule.
 
In a word, NO

Having said that there are some lovely ones around but generally not as many as in LOS, IMHO
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in th
  31. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  32. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena young Vietnamese sweetheart girl has plump lips, flawless glory skin, D cup, dark hair, Gorgeous face, Victoria Secret body type with amazing personality. Myra She is Korean Very Petite School Girl Naturally Curved Body Nice Tight Sexy Ass โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  33. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine & Young Sexy Chinese Tina
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Saturday December 28, 2024, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Lucy โค๏ธ and Ivy ๐Ÿ‘Œ Enjoy! And don't forget, our promotion starts tomorrow!! Call 905-479-6668 to book, and remember to get your raffle ticket from reception!
  35. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Coco & Ada are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐ŸซฆCoco is a young sexy Taiwanese girl ๐Ÿซฆ Ada is a sexy European Hottie ๐Ÿ‘„ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค—We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  36. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธCanadian๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  38. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine & Young Sexy Chinese Tina
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday๐Ÿ…,service queen Jessica friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…,New girl CiCi is very good looking,big breasted service excellent massage help fatigued and stress๐ŸŽ…nice Vietnamese girl Amy very popular,she know the man,give you warm time๐Ÿฅฐ
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Grace๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A new alluring and skilled Asi
  41. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 6 to 7 Different style girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜˜
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: TRACY & MICHICO. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. MICHICO is a young slim, beautiful
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind and cute Tina with curve body open mind, sweet GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Lisa, Mia & Sasa. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist, impressive booty, nice massage, great services. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
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