What are MY hands telling me? Help!

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OK...so I feel really silly asking but here goes!I ahve been out of school for a little but now and I am an IC at a Salon.  Everything is going as good as can be expected.  Just starting out things are slow and picking up but as we all know it is going to take awhile!Anyway, I love what I am doing but sometimes I feel like I am doing the same thing to EVERY client!The same routine, the same steps pver and over again.  Right now I am so confused with myself I don't even know what to do!  I am letting my hands tell me what they feel, and I am listening but I feel like theyy are telling me the same thing with every client?Do I not know what I am doing here?  Or I am just ignoring things?  I am really lost.  I feel like in school they focused SOOOOO much on the strokes and the technique all the other questions were just left for you as the Therapist to figure out on your own!Now I know that the clients body speaks for itself and I am trying to feel for things I just don't seem to be feeling anything! Am I just lacking confidence in what I am doing?I have had all satisfied clients and everyone is re-booking?I guess I am just LOST!Thanks--Stacey
 
Stacey, I think your hands are telling you that you are normal.  You are experiencing the same thing we all did at some point in our careers.  Just all depends on how long the internship was and how much practice we got in.So, just relax, keep working, get regular massage, enjoy life.  
 
I agree.  It is a very normal feeling.  I find that I often get clients with the same issues at the same time and that begins to feel repetitive.I also found that in a salon/spa setting I was doing more of a basic massage instead of an injury specific massage like to mainly do now.  So it could be the setting.Usually when I am feeling this way I try to learn something different.  A different way to accomplish some of the same outcomes or a different modality that I can add in.  Something that is fresh and new for both me and the clients.  
 
I agree with Masthera.It's likely that being located in a spa or salon has your clients thinking you do mainly relaxation type work. Though honestly when I was at the massage I also had a good refferal relationship with a chiropractor in town.  The salon was just a couple blocks away from his office and people were able to go directly from the salon to his office in just a few minutes, they had less pain and spasm, leading to easier adjustments for the client.(If you are interested in pursuing that... Info4people has a great brochure on Massage & Chiropractic... I just attached a business card to the back and delivered them to his office every once in awhile.)Like Masthera said, it often seems like clients are suffering from the same things at the same time.Sometimes I'd have a "Special Interest"... like a friend or family member with rotator cuff issues... or knee problems, FMS, TMJ or one who had experienced whiplash. Through learning what felt good to people with each of these conditions, and what seemed to help... I was able to use that information to help other clients with the same problem.Maybe what you really need is more feedback. There are perhaps subtle ways you ARE helping these clients that you don't know about. Massage doesn't just work on the body... but the mind and spirit as well. Don't discount the work you are doing in your own mind just because you feel it's the same old thing all the time.Focus not just on your hands but also your heart.Try to "listen" to Your Intuition, if your client complained of low back troubles.. and you are lead to their feet... go there too.Massage is an Art... "practice" having fun in the "medium" that you enjoy.
 
What are MY hands telling me? Help!

if they are rebooking that is great...you know your stuff...now it is time to learn more...I trade massages with other therapists to see if maybe I can feel something new...with a few of my regulars I will let them rub my neck or shoulders...I can feel touch other than my own...if I like it I try it on others...that way I do not bore myself...
 
Don't worry.  It all comes with time and experience.  I've been practicing massage since 1986 and even took classes almost 30 years ago.  What has helped me the most in the last 5 years was taking CranioSacral and Lymphatic Drainage classes through Upledger Institute. I took these at Esalen Institute in Big Sur, CA. These helped me slow down, center myself and use lots less pressure. I found out wonderful things with my hands and my senses.  I remember being very nervous when I started working and being on autopilot when I got stressed and busy. I'd recommend relaxing and giving a bit less with your massage.  Breathing and staying grounded sounds trite but really works.  Some of my best sessions have been ones that felt really easy and didn't tire me out. Good luck. Don't forget it takes time and some work-that's why it's called a "practice."Rubmyster
 
Stacey,I know exactly what you are saying.  I work out of a salon as well and most of my clients come to relax and they all seem to have either neck/shoulders or low back tension.  I don't question myself though.  I know that staying in tune with my client is key to knowing what they need.  My instructor had us use our imaginations when we were massaging.  Having us "make up stories" about the muscles...asking what does this muscle feel like, what color is it, what is it's texture...stuff like that, and there is no wrong answer, especially if you just let yourself listen to whatever comes to mind first.When I massaged her the vision I got was that her upper back felt very woody and her erector spinae was like the trunk of the tree...the tree felt very hard and nonmoving to me.  My goal was to loosen up the branches in her upper back and "till the soil" in the low back to get the roots some nourishment.  The moves I used were the same as with any other client, but my intention is what made all the difference.I struggled with using my imagination this way, but have found that it's very helpful and I love "making up stories" about the muscles now.
 
I also think what you are experiencing is normal.  Is it possible you are getting bored by the "sameness of it all" as well?  I would add to the suggestions that maybe starting the client in a different position (supine rather than prone) or starting elsewhere on their bodies (start on their feet rather than the back or start with their hands) may also help you a bit.
 
Good idea Intuitouch. Another thing I've found helps me is trying a new product every once in awhile... or changing the music.Some music seems to "trigger" the intuitive side of me better than others I think too. *shrug*I do enjoy using new and different products on the clients hands or feet, and of course Aromatherapy is also a big interest of mine. So sometimes I will spritz a little essential oils into the air before the client arrives and walk under it breathing deeply. That helped sometimes to keep the massages from running together as one long boring day in my mind... I'm often surprised to see how a Tiny Little Change like music, scent or starting in a different position or on a different part of the body can break up the "boredom" for me.Of course CE is also a possibility... or just learning a new stroke  from another MT which can be added in can mix things up a bit too. Stacey... have you thought about bringing a pillow in and doing some work with them in a side-lying position?Sometimes little changes can have big results.  ;DPlease let us know if any of these ideas help!
 
Interesting thread......I belong to a business networking group and each week, we have 60 seconds to give a brief commercial for ourselves, and I love to use a quick story about an anonymous client I worked on the preceding week.  I have found in fact that some weeks, I see (and feel) many of the same problems--- one week it's all about levator scapula, the next it's all about piriformis.  I also wonder if a client I help tells other people about it and they come for similar help?  Like last week when 4 people came in unable to turn their heads and left with much more full range of motion ....... hmmmm......I sometimes wonder if the Universe is sending me the review lesson of the week ---  I spend some time when I notice a trend brushing up on all the possible techniques to work with the region that is catching my attention..... the stretches, the positions, etc.  that work for those muscles.  As I practice NMT, I also read up on the possible perpetuating factors that can keep a particular region tight or painful ----- and clients are often blown away when I ask "do you hold the phone to your ear with this shoulder?" or "do you drive long distances without taking short breaks?"  etc.No matter what the reason for the theme of the week or month, it is so useful to me.  I do SOAP notes on each session --- sometimes very brief scribbles that are difficult later to translate, but in a perfect world, they let me really see what's going on in my practice.Thanks for this thread.Linda B. in NC
 
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  33. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  34. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  35. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  36. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  40. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  42. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young new pretty tenant Sherry 28โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Lily 25โ€™s with curve body,young flirty Michelle with big buttocks 25โ€™s open mind and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธMilly๐ŸŒธCarly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. Double_Tree:
    โค๐Ÿ’ž4271 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’žโฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’žโฃSofia, tall and slim, experienced touch . Nice finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Tiffany, small in stature. Pretty. Playful. .Gentle touch for relaxation +. โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž 416 293-5071๐Ÿ“ž
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Aiko Mixed Chinese/Japanese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Michelle Spinner type with nice boobs Open minded โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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