what do you think to this?

Hot Stone Massage is truely lovely - and a lot of the Hot Stone schools provide a range of pre-blended Aromatherapy oil to use with the treatment. I have previously questioned the use of these oils with the schools - ie do they teach the practitioners about the different EOs, or are they only for qualified aromatherapists - I was told no EO training is given as it would take too long. What worries me about your treatment was that you were not told about the the contraindications of citus oils - ie that they are phototoxic, and that you should avoid sitting in the sun for at least 24 hours after application, otherwise you could end up with a very serious rash/burn.

Regarding the legislation - I believe that if this is passed only qualified aromatherapists will be able to use essential oils in treatments and provide any sort of "aroma" treatment. Other therapists will not be insured for giving any sort of "Aroma" treatment to the public, and therefore cannot receive payment for treatments that use EOs or are called "Aroma" anything.
I think the pre-blended oils will be continued to be sold to the public in shops, as long as it's for "personal" use only, as they are of a lesser blended percentage - but I see a great big loop-hole though!

Rima x
 
Hi, Just seen this post - sorry to be so late with my comment. I finished the VTCT certificate in aromatherapy in June this year - we were taught about contraindications, blending, proper consultation etc. It was a very good course - a very good tutor always helps. I always seem to be made to feel inferior about my VTCT courses - A&P, Reflexology, Swedish Massage and Aromatherapy. Going on to Indian Head Massage this year again, VTCT - there is no choice in my area anyway and I really don't feel badly done by - although have had cause to complain about bad organisation etc. It comes down to how good the tutor is and what you do with the knowledge you get from the course - up to you how much too! and also what you do with it afterwards. I would hate to have missed out on the joys of being able to blend the oils according to the client needs/preferences - it's the best bit! I hope regulation does come - it's needed across the board in therapy. I hear of some very dubious statements accompanied by very poor sounding treatments by allegedly qualified therapists!
 
I was just chuckling to myself and wondering if I should point out my views...and I thought I will.
I can without shame say that I have no qualification in any field what so ever.
Nil.
It is a long story why this is so, but I can assure that I have a very good full time job...

Now as it comes to aromatherapy, I got interested because I like nice smells and I have bad knee and back pains. So instead of going to see an aromatherapist, I bought a bunch of books. I then studied them for a few months. Then I ordered 40 bottles of essential oils and few litre bottles of carrier oils.
I figured they will get used, if for nothing else, the fragrance in the end.

Then I blended and tested, blended some more and tested some more. I started making blends for the family and always asked for feedback.
Then I bought some more books...and read some more.
Tested some more....

This has gone on for approx 3 years. I feel that you don't need to go to school to learn anything, if you are motivated to learn at home.

I would not consider starting to offer massages for people for money, as I am not qualified, but I have been giving massages to my family since I was 11 and I know pretty well how to give a wonderful massage.
I also have 6-7 books on different types of massage techniques, all which have been tried and tested.

I do firmly belive that a diploma does not neccessarily mean anything, just as the comment about every person who gets a driving licence a good driver, of course not!

I dare say that I have great amount of knowledge without a diploma and if I was to take a test, I am confident I would score as high as the students.

Great example about this is the fact that 1 year ago, I knew I wanted a website, I just had no clue how to go about it.

It is now 12 months later and I have a website that works wonderfully and has had lots of praise. I made all the graphics and logos and everything myself and I am damn proud of it.

I did not need to go on a course in college to learn how to build a website...I just decide to learn it myself.

These days information about anything you ever want to know is at your fingertips, and I don't think I am stupid or somehow less that other people just because I don't have a wall full of diplomas.....

Just my opinion....
 
Amaris

It's really great that you have taken the time to learn about something that you feel so passionate about.

There is lots of information out there in books, on the internet, etc and this is a fine way to learn about aromatherapy for your own use and use on family and friends.

However (you knew there would be one, didn't you?), many books contradict each other, particularly where contraindications are concerned. A course is interactive, you can question the tutor when you come across some information that doesn't make sense. You get lots and lots of hands on experience in a safe situation, allowing you to get feedback on what works and what doesn't work.

I really feel that with aromatherapy and massage you will nearly always see benefits in what you do and yes, there are many ways to do it, none of which are wrong. My worry, with someone without a qualification is them knowing when not to treat or what oils not to use in certain circumstances - as you know they are so powerful so have the ability to do harm as well as good. And of course, you wouldn't be able to get insurance without a qualification.

Of course, you don't need to be insured if you are treating family and friends and not getting paid for it, so what you are doing is fine. I just wanted to point out, for the benefit of all our members, that there are no shortcuts (and nor should there be), to becoming an aromatherapist.

Lesley
 
Hi Aromababe!

I agree with you, I have noted that there are some various opinions in different books and this is why, no matter what I study (and that seems to be many things) I like to try things out myself so I can get first hand experience, and then I know I can comment on something with confidence as I know on a personal level it to be true.

Don't get me wrong, I would actually love to get aromatherapy qualification, but my current situation does not allow it as I work shifts and would have to skip lessons every other week. But life changes and maybe I will have my chance. But because of the nature of my work, I also have lots of time when I can study, at my pace at home. And if you go out and pay for a service, of course as a customer, you should be treated by a person who know what they are doing and are qualified.

However, I belive that on a lot of other fields you can actually work without a qualification, healing and medicine are different, I have no qualifications but most of my life I have worked in jobs that have been highly paid and professional and this covers many fields. I have lived and worked in 11 different countries and done variety of jobs.

Currently I am boss to 45 truck drivers in Finland and I take care of deliveries of hazardous goods and am the first point of contact in an environmental/life threatening emergency situations, which is quite a heavy responsibility. I have achieved that by continually trying to improve and learn new things, and I also belive that if one wants something badly enough and gathers enough knowledge of that matter, school per say is not neccessity, information and experience on the other hand is.

To be honest I thought about posting twice...I knew that there would be some discussion about this, but then again I thought it would also be interesting to see what other people thought of my story [sm=animal-smiley-085.gif]

I also look forward learning more from all the people in this forum!
 
Amaris

I think your story is very interesting and I am truly impressed by your quest for knowledge and experience. I visited your website and was absolutely knocked out by the set up. I take my hat off to you, you've done an amazing job. There is just one thing though - the Om sign is back to front. Is this significant, does it mean something? I hope you don't think that I'm putting you down, because I'm not. I hope we see more of you on HP, it's a great forum.

Love and blessings
Sunanda xx

PS My teacher, Amma, has many devotees in Finland. Have you met her?
 
Hi!

Thanks for visiting the website, I haven't got it listed properly yet as it has only been live for few weeks, so it is nice to get visitors![sm=1syellow1.gif]

The logo was inspired by the om sign, but as the site is called universal essence, there is U and E although the E looks like 3 wrong way around.
I thought it would be quarky having a logo that in a way resembles the om which is a sign that has facinated me for a long time. But, yeah it stands for UE=universal essence.

I have been spending time on some really nice discussion boards that are finnish, but for a while I have been looking for english discussion board that I would really be interested in and I certainly have found it here.
A whole lot of the stuff that I am interested in is right here and I am really glad I stumbeld accross this by accident (or divine intervention?)

I have not met Amma, is she active here?
I have lived in UK for 8 years now and I only visit Finland few times a year, but thanks to internet it is easy to keep in touch with people over there.

I am also going to make the website in finnish as well, so from the start page you can choose the language, once I have some time!!![sm=scratchchin.gif]
 
just an update
the salon that i started this whole thread about has closed
a friend went to use some vouchers she had been given and its closed down , no contact number so the vouchers her kids bought her are useless which is such a shame.

i doubt that it has closed because of the therapist saying that aroma training isn't necessary, its probably more a question of location but i just thought i would let you know
its a shame because the interior was beautiful .........wish i had the money to buy it
oh and i have completed a correspondence aromatherapy diploma which i am sure that many of you will frown upon, but with 20 years of interest in and personal use ofessential oilsan extensive library and massage and IHM qualifications (from college attended courses,) i don't have any qualms about using my skills if i ever decide to practice
I did the correspondence because i really couldn't face another round ofclasses where the places were taken up mainly by bored and sometimes disruptive teenagers doing beauty therapy but i appreciate that was just my experience
 
i was taught th ITEC way, and they say that you cannot use essenial oils prebleded or not, unless you are qualified.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” , Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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