What is it really all about, is it really worth it?

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I've been thinking a lot about this for about a month now. We work, make money, pay bills, buy food. Then we spend the rest on satisfying our latest craving. The newest phone, the latest car, in the case of our little group here, the latest girl. What do we produce? What are we doing to better ourselves collectively? Will our contribution to society matter in a few years? Does it matter now?

I look at what I do. Every day I help people, but it honestly doesn't seem to matter. There's little gratitude and no recognition. I'm just another faceless tech-monkey.

Gods, I'm starting to understand cutters. You slice your skin and the pain you feel is actually real, not just this unbearable nothing, this worthlessness in your head.

There's no real point to this, just need to air out my screwed up brain.
 
Some people have lives that allow them to see the difference they make in the world. A doctor saves a patient's life, a firefighter rescues a child from a burning home, a researcher makes a discovery that leads to a medical breakthrough, a statesman averts a war...

Most of us, though, lead far more ordinary lives. The only really important thing I've ever done is to have raised my son well...but while I can't think of anything more important to me personally, the bulk of it is done now. And there are many moments when I feel completely inconsequential, no one really needs me anymore.

So I try to look for little things I can do, like holding the door for someone or letting someone pull out at that really busy intersection, or giving blood when I can. Sometimes I go to the shelter and walk the dogs...you want gratitude? Go do that.

I keep a framed copy of this in my living room. Sometimes it helps me find perspective when I need it, and I hope it does the same for you.

Little Things

Most of us miss out on life's big prizes.
The Pulitzer.
The Nobel.
Oscars.
Tonys.
Emmys.
But we're all eligible for life's small pleasures.
A pat on the back.
A kiss behind the ear.
A four-pound bass.
A full moon.
An empty parking space.
A crackling fire.
A glorious sunset.
Hot soup.
Cold beer.
Don't fret about copping life's grand awards.
Enjoy its tiny delights.
There are plenty for all of us.
 
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This thread started out with a major down tone, but as is often the case SG, you've cut through iit all and hit the mark.

I've been very fortunate, with very few serious failutes punctuating my life. Build on top of that some of the most amazing things that I get a serious boost from, some of which you've listed. Add to this some of my own;

Watching a colt being born.
Having a recently lost friend help someone else through organ donation.
Winning a lottery at a country fair and finding out it was a 50lb wheel of cheese. The good news was Xmas was coming and the local charity was another big winner for their Xmas dinner.
Watching puppies being born.
Swimming with Blue Jelly Fish in a South Pacific coral reef.
Watching kid getting his first haircut.
Trying a totally new food.

I feel really good now with all these flashbacks. Thanks SG.
 
The Human Condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Condition_(book)
Dreamblade, you're not alone and this has been happening since the beginning of time. The ancient greeks called it VITA ACTIVA, "The active life" We work to survive, and we socialize to feel a sense of belonging. Our daily lives are consumed by wants versus needs. There's not enough human socialization happening. You asked about our contributions meaning anything now or later. Yes, they do matter, you helped someone today, whether they say thank you or not isn't the point, you helped someone regardless of pay or not. If you've ever thought about it, volunteering is a valuable contribution.

Cutters are very different for various reasons. You're just in a rut!
http://www.suite101.com/content/why-do-people-cut-themselves-a151977

http://healthmad.com/mental-health/10-reasons-people-cut-themselves/
 
We're a virus, a cancer of the planet. That's our accomplishment.

It's still a good idea to be nicer to each other and make sure our offspring don't become evil, but in the end we've fucked up.

You can still enjoy the moment even if you know there isn't a grand reward at the end, can't you?
 
Vitamin D, dreamblade. You need to take Vitamin D when the amount of sunlight starts to decrease in the autumn.
 
You're going through the winter dumps a little early DB. Cheer up and go get laid, you will feel much better.
 
Dreamblade: recognition for your efforts is for sissies. Do good and know the world is better for it, regardless of whether you get a prize. I'd prefer a world of good people unconcerned with recognition than a world where we only do good deeds if someone's rewarding us. If you have a spare few hrs and enjoy a good mindfuck, read someone like Soren Kierkegaard, who woke up one morning convinced that if there was no God what was the point. From there Kierkegaard just became a self-indulgent self-pitying bore, and was famous for it, which was deeply ironic, because he thought there was no point to it all if God was not going to be there to pat him on the back at the end. So he gained recognition for thinking there would be no recognition so why bother. A good mindfuck like Kierkegaard shows us all the perils of craving recognition. In the meantime, heed Sillygirl's wisdom. It's the little things that often count. Like Brad being a tech moron that has often benefitted from tech savvy people's skills, even if I don't know them. Sometimes we just don't need recognition to realize our efforts don't go unnoticed.

I got that all out of a fortune cookie I stole from the now-dead delivery boy, who said Kierkegaard was his hero.
 
Wow, dude, you should talk to a professional.
 
For me...

It is about,

Loving my kids
Doing the things I love, (hiking, photography, bicycle riding, reading)
Helping those I can
Changing the world to my ideals (no matter how small of a change)

Notice how I never once brought up money or possessions? There is more to life than work. I'll even bet that no one has ever said on their deathbed, 'geez, I wish I worked harder and put in longer hours.'
 
Its known as bullshit, but it happens to most of us if not all of us.

I go through it every now and then.

Oagre is right, Vitamin D. Start taking " One a day for men "

http://oneaday.com/mens.html

Sometimes you do favours or simple small things to help people. Many people (its sad to say) do not appreciate it as much as they should. Its a fact of life.

Humans are getting selfish as the final day comes closer.
 
Good suggestions from the girls and boys, cheer up DB. It's Saturday night, go out on the town and have a ball.:party:
 
I'm heartened by the number of responses that refer to helping others.

It's worth it when you have a worthy purpose. We all have one. I lost mine some time ago. Still searching for a new one.
 
I hate to say it but I agree with Auggie. We're just a species that overcame all the obstacles to beat out other species to the top.

I used to think the same way, that what I did really didn't do anything and all the time and effort spent to work to "get things done" that really, in the big picture, didn't need to be done.

So I quit.

Now when I build a piece of furniture, or renovate a kid's room, or ?? I know what I've done will be around a LONG time. For example, one of the most rewarding things that happened to be (re: work) was I was trimming a room in a new house and a little 6 yr old girl wandered in. She said this'll be MY room....So I showed her what I was doing and in the bedroom closet I had her stand against the trim and marked her height. I gave her the pencil and told her now everyday on your birthday you mark yourself. Then when you go off to college your parents can see how big you've gotten. She was thrilled. Then I had her write her name in the baseboard and I carved it in with my utility knife. I went downstairs to meet her parents and it was awesome to be a part of their first home purchase etc.

When I was building condos and was hired as the site manager I found a LOT of the trades were using the unit toilets and quite a few were full of shit and piss. (no running water). I called ALL the trades to the front of the building and told them "if I ever catch any of you using the unit toilets you won't even be fired on the spot, your company will be fined $5,000.00. These are people's HOMES, many of you have forgotten that"....."we're giving people places to live, it's not just another box, do your best work and respect these places". Afterwards a few of the guys came up and thanked me for reminding them of what we were really doing.

So my suggestion is, if you don't like your life the way it is, change it. I've changed careers 8x in my life and while I'll never be a millionaire, I do like to think I'm doing something worthwhile.
 
Am i the only one that sees the irony in this statement?
 
Nice story, tboy.

I bet that little girl remembers the moment for the rest of her life.
 
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    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  37. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  38. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  41. starjey888:
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  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  43. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  44. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
  47. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (7PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  48. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  49. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  50. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
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