Why bodyworkers aren't taken seriously...

[green eyed monster]

="junglelord" I am after all a RMT...REGISTER MASSAGE THERAPIST UNTIL THINGS CHANGE.

1st thing: stop shouting
2nd thing: if you're so offended by the word massage, then why aren't you in school to become a doctor of something?
it seems you have an inherent disgust for anyone other than a medically based therapist.

massage is a 7 letter word, btw.

and lastly, a fluffer must mean something different in your part of the world. in the adult entertainment world, a fluffer is a female who 'readies' the male actor for his scene by oral sex. so please verify.

capitals are not shouting, they emphsis a point...

my medical training is the same as a doctor or a chiro so I am already there....weather I get the professional title yet or not, I have it from my patients.

since massage is not a good description of an Ontario trained therapist I am doing something about it, I am getting the professional title changed in Ontario.
8)
Fluffers in our school are people that put on oil and do mindless circles with never enough pressure....I don't watch porn, I'm christian and therefore know nothing about the slang of the porn industry...besides in my part of the world massage and sex having nothing to do with one another so why would a fluffer have anything to do with porn? What part of the world are you from> I'm talking about massage.

my disgust lies within the province of Ontario, the CMTO and everyone who tells people with a relaxation spa diploma....oh yeah Im a RMT....when in reality they just commited a crime, endangered the public and held themselves out to be a medical professional registered by the government of Ontario to practice medicine.

Since most of you are american educated with far fewer hours, I have 2500 hours of school time boys and girls....how much do you have?

Point being that at our end of the spectrum it is time to cut ties and go our seperate ways....so either all the medical minded american therapist will enlarge the core cirriculum and follow suit with both education and eventually professional title or be forever lost in the quagmire of Massage...vs medicine....vs misrepresentation.....vs across the board education standards...

We need standardization across the board and the seperation between what I do and what others do....I practice medicine...I don't do spa's.

why would a RMT do spa work and why would a spa person hold themselves out to be an RMT?

I do have a point, and its a good one.

 

[BBoo]

Junglelord, I find your tone very judgemental and negative towards other therapists on this forum. Lighten up a bit.

It is nice that you feel BC has the best education programs ever, but speaking as a professional from the corporate business world it is NEVER professional to bash others for their education or their choices, be they contemporaries or competitors.

I have to wonder why you are even in this profession if you abhor its many facets. While I enjoy the professional standards that have been set forth for massage therapy (yeah, I said massage therapy), I feel that the movement to turn everything clinical is a bad one. People are really out of touch with their spiritual selves (and physical selves too). Our society pulls us further from experiencing and understand inner peace and contentment. Everything has to be credentialed more and more and becomes "smarmy", why? Let me do what I do, you can do what you do.

I mentioned no names, I know no one here and therefore your point is mute. I am judemental about Ontario therapist who contiue to do the spa gig with mindless circles and oil with no assessment, perpetuating the seforum.xxxnation of the medical profession in ontario by being lazy and careless.
I can be critical as I am a teacher in Ontario and a honour graduate and only work with chiros and doctors and nurses and physios so I have a very valid point for Ontario training as we are registered medical professional with 2500 hrs training and we must then pass provincal board exams that are very heavy and detailed.
As far as spiritual I am already there, I have had a near death experience and I KNOW my Lord and Saviour Yeshua and I am 1/3 Mohawk who is a survival expert in the woods....trust me I am more spiritual then almost anyone I know.
I am gifted with intelligence and talent and I drive a tight ship...so I'm allowed to be cocky, I got the skills to back it up...besides I'm a big teddy bear and the gentlest person I know...kids and animals love me.
I have a personal and spiritual goal for soft tissue therapy and you must realize I am talking Ontario so unless your in Ontario stop feeling guilty or perscucted...
Love ya.

As far as my sister province BC, well the police made 108 arrests yesterday on Massage Parlors and the Human Sex Trade problem.....
so as you see sadly massage and sex and even human trafficing is all mixed together and by semantics and constant news reports, newpaper classifieds etc we all need a better name for both sides of the fence, medical and spa.

 

[Pepsi C]

Junglelord wrote: You must realize I am talking Ontario so unless your in Ontario stop feeling guilty or perscucted

You joined this thread to give advice to a member who clearly states he's from Texas. Although you stated you were from Ontario, all of your statements regarding your beliefs about the field of massage therapy were general in nature. Not only did you not say "I'm only talking about Ontario" you stated clearly you were talking about both our countries when you said: "Since Ontario and BC are the industry standared and where the states look to when they increase the hours of the ciriculums they will also follow the change in proffessional title that the education demands."

That's not the only time you've contradicted yourself either. In your first post, you said "MASSAGE=PARLOR=SEX." In a more recent post you said, "In my part of the world massage and sex having nothing to do with one another." Finally, you went back to your first sentiment by saying, "So as you see sadly massage and sex and even human trafficing is all mixed together."

Your opinions may indeed have merit, but the way you're expressing them is repelling people instead of convincing them. Think before you post. Be clear & consistent in what you have to say. Show some openness to other points of view. Respect your fellow forum members. If you think you're in a different league than the rest of the members of this board, then maybe this isn't your peer group & the soft tissue forum earlier mentioned might be a better fit.

One more thing - regarding the ALL CAPS. You wrote:

Capitals are not shouting, they emphsis a point...

On the internet (forums & emails) ALL CAPS are a form of shouting. Here's a link to some basic rules of forum netiquette:

http://www.emmet.mi.us/forum/netiquette.htm

 

[Spice Man]

Since most of you are american educated with far fewer hours, I have 2500 hours of school time boys and girls....how much do you have?

Did that 2500 include courses on "How to sign onto a message board so you can tell everyone how inferior they are to you" and "Why you really ARE a doctor, even though you're not"?