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Well, I know there's a number of fitness oriented individuals on here, so I figured no harm asking.

Now I know I'm not going to be as slim and sleek as CG, my build is just too damned heavy. (If I figure right, I currently have a lean mass of 155lbs, and 35lbs of BF) Nor will I get as huge as Tank, and honestly I don't think I'd like to be that huge. (Though the ability to carry an escort over each shoulder would have it's advantages...) And I certainly can't be as compact as HOF. I'll just have to find my own physic.

I've been hovering around the 190lbs mark, and if I read the calipers correctly, 18% body fat for the past month. I may have put on 10lbs since my last update, but my body fat percentage has actually gone down 5% in that time too. Sadly I'm still packing the dunlap gut, moobs, lumpy arse, and jiggly thighs.

I'm currently using the routine found here. It's supposed to be aimed more at endomorphs, which I believe I am, and aims for a higher number of sets and high reps. I've been using this since about September, and I have yet to plateau on it. Each week I add two reps to each set, and so forth.

This week I've been switching out some of the exercises in the above routine for other moves. Ie squat replacing leg press, and reverse lunges replacing leg extensions.

Recently, a young coworker, who is a little more body builder oriented, has been pushing that I try going heavy for a bit. I'm kind of up in the air on it though. Being an endomorph, I would probably reap huge rewards going this route. But I also have a history of hernias, and could going this route place me at greater risk of injury/re injury? Also, do I really want to get big? And how would getting big effect my running? (I have a race to run on Dec 31)

So I guess I'm looking for some advice on how to reignite my fat lose, and whether I should shoot for moderate weight/high reps, or high weight/low-moderate reps. And maybe some suggestions on what I should be doing differently....
 
I'm no expert Dave, but I believe muscle confusion is what you may need...

Been reading a lot about Tony Horton's P90X, and haven't found a bad word said about it. I'm thinking about going on the routine myself actually... being winter, I can't ride... :frown: and since the busted wing incident 4 weeks ago, I have been unable to weight train either so I need something to jolt me back into training again... :shock:
 
What ever happened to the old fashioned sit ups and pull ups. Also using light weights to tone your body for half hour everyday :neutral:.
 
Before buying the P90X find somebody who owns it. It is very difficult and if you are not serious you will wast your money.
 
BD - What is your diet like? I worked out for months with marginal benefit. The pounds melted off and definition emerged when I went on a proper low carb/high protein diet.

P90X is scalable. It can be done by noobs. Horton works out with several other people. They each do the exercises differently, from beginner (they give you cheat tricks) to advanced (adding moves to increase intensity).

The longest I've only ever stuck with it for five weeks, but I got great results. The rotating series of workouts tend to reduce boredom. The problem with P90X is that the workouts tend to run about 90 min all together. I found it hard to get that kind of time each day. You also need some minimum gear for the workouts (weights, bands, mat, etc.) If you can afford the $ and the space, get separate free weights. I tried to save both with the Bowflex SelecTech dumbells. Not crazy about them.

Insanity is another beachbody product. It runs shorter (45 to 60 min). I don't like it as much because it's mostly cardio. No gear required tho.

Psst. You can buy the DVDs off CL (~$50 for each set), or download the segments from torrent sites.
 
P90X rocks. Dave, we have discussed this. But u will have to lift heavier. Or change up ur cardio to cut fat. In which case, if u want extreme fatloss, u need extreme cardio. Insanity is a better route than P90X.

:)
 
Insanity is worse than P90X,if you like throwing up, go for it.
 
Dave,

I don't know much about PX90, all I have heard is very positive.

I do know that core and plyometric training is the best for those of us 35+, low weight training and cardio work too. Measure your servings, eat 5x daily (pretend you're diabetic). There's nothing wrong with going to GNC and getting a supplement to help build muscle or bulk up alittle.

Herschel Walker was a chubby child that was bullied and teased. He started doing the regular/routine exercises from his gym class and his body transformed into a powerful mountain of muscle. Herschel Walker used very light weight training. It was plyometric training, even before it was called plyometric training.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Junior_Walker

In 2000, I met Coach McKinney, who pioneered plyometric training in the NCAA. It's exercising and then advancing the exercising versus your own body weight.
Coach Thomas McKinney
http://www.strengthcoach.com/public/793.cfm

UNC workout
http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/inside-look-unc-tar-heels-training-camp

Core training and Plyometric training, along with good cardio work are really all that is required.

http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/plyometrics.html
http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/core-strength-training.html

Get a medicine ball and a skipping rope too.

Live healthy, those exercises that we learned in grade 9 phys ed are really important as we age.

Cheers.
 
Bliss, I'm not into regurgitation either. I much prefer Horton's motto

Do your best and forget the rest!
 
I clipped out parts from the different P90X and Insanity workouts and created different smaller combinations that I liked. I find the talking in between annoys me cuz when I'm working out I wanna go, go, go
 
Extreme cardio is catabolic. The more muscle you have the more calories you burn at rest.

Take a good look at trainers doing ''extreme'' cardio and you will find most of them have little or no muscle and are quite soft looking. They can run or bike all day though.

Of course this all depends on how you want to look but the runner or cyclist look never did it for me.
 
Walker has consistently denied doing any weight training at any time in his life.

I remember seeing him on Oprah when he was playing for the Cowboys and she asked him how he got in such great shape and he said doing push ups and sit ups daily. He also said he believed in the power of the mind. what ever that means.

Last month while being interviewed by Ariel Helwani a renowned MMA reporter he was again asked about his exercising routine and he basically gave the same answer. He has never lifted weights.

Walker is a genetic anomaly with high degree of fast twitch fibers and most likely a myostatin irregularity.

He can't be compared to 99.9% of the population.
 
Find a good trainer even for a few visit and they will help you develop what you need.
My trainer has doing something different each time which confuse my body. Also having somebody swearing at you and making you laugh makes the workout fun.
 
CG, you disappoint. I expected you to post up a pic of you in you riding gear on response to Maurice's comment about cyclists looking soft. :p
 
LOL... Well that pic is already around here somewhere... so no need to repost... Besides, I wouldn't wanna disprove his theory! :tongue: (He is a "friend" afterall... so I'll just let him have his moment... hee hee :))
 
Everybody is individually specific of course but my response was to average people doing extreme cardio for fat loss.

I meant no disrespect towards CG and his accomplishments as I have seen his before and after pics and there is a significant change for the better.

Coming from a bodybuilding background my measure of leanness most likely differs from his.
 
Good point, Bosco. Context is important.

My background is in buffet dining, with a speciality in bacon. I need to exercise, because I eat for sport. :p
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Sexy Faye, RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS ONLY $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHelen๐Ÿฌ
  33. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday May 19, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿค—, Mia ๐Ÿค—, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  35. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  36. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls Downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  37. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธMelissa๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  42. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FLOWER โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Markham ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong, 9PMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  43. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St, Vaughan ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  48. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young New Tight Korean Butt Yumi working with Sexy Young Sweet Summer and Sensual & Pleasing Busty Boobs Coco today. Call or text 647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธโœ…โœ…
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
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