Premier sucks now

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With the loss of all of their top stars, Premier has really gone down hill. One look at their roster and I see maybe one or 2 worthy girls but the rest are waste of time and money.

Helena leaving Premier is the nail in the coffin. Seduction spa has now surpassed Premier and is the better place to go now.
 
What about any of the busty girls without pics like Roxy, Janelle, Gigi, and Kiana?
Anyone seen them?
 
I disagree.

I hate the way you have to register your phone at Pure, which kept me away for a few years. It's such an annoying privacy violation. That being said, I've returned since mid 2021, and have had a good time at every session I've had in the past year. I go every few weeks, except when I get really busy at work.

Ones I have enjoyed and went the full mile with include: Olivia, Marissa, Sasha, Destiny, Kourtney, Alice, Salma, Erika, Ruby, Mackenzie, Dalia, Estela, Michelle. All at a minimum good sessions, and some really great sessions.

There were a few girls too scared to have sex with me and my fairly large penis (typically small, Asian), but even with those girls -- and I won't call them out by name -- it was at least a good no-extras session and really nice service.

By comparison, I've been to Seduction with six girls over the past year, and only Shina and Nikki were really good sessions. Two were terrible and seemed like the girls were being forced to do the job, and two were just mediocre and mechanical. So overall, way worse odds there vs. Premier for me.
 
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I disagree.

I hate the way you have to register your phone at Pure, which kept me away for a few years. It's such an annoying privacy violation. That being said, I've returned since mid 2021, and have had a good time at every session I've had in the past year. I go every few weeks, except when I get really busy at work.

Ones I have enjoyed and went the full mile with include: Olivia, Marissa, Sasha, Destiny, Kourtney, Alice, Salma, Erika, Ruby, Mackenzie, Dalia, Estela. All at a minimum good sessions, and some really great sessions.

There were a few girls too scared to have sex with me and my fairly large penis (typically small, Asian), but even with those girls -- and I won't call them out by name -- it was at least a good no-extras session and really nice service.

By comparison, I've been to Seduction with six girls over the past year, and only Shina and Nikki were really good sessions. Two were terrible and seemed like the girls were being forced to do the job, and two were just mediocre and mechanical. So overall, way worse odds there vs. Premier for me.
I doubt they have a few moderately decent hoes for a session
But out of all the ladies you said were good is there a single one that is extremely hot and sexy I say no
Average looking girls that are just dirty whores ,
Where as back in the day premier had all the services and extremely good looking whores in the stable
 
There's no one really hot at Premier left. Katie, Jennifer and Carla are gone. They just have average looking girls now
 
My thoughts exactly

I'd rank almost every one of those girls as well above avg vs. the general population. Yeah, compared to Katie, none are at that pinnacle of hotness...but so few in the industry ever come close to those heights. And to be honest, NOBODY at Seductions right now is even close to Katie hot. Even at a place like Brass Rail, which is theoretically the top strip club in Canada's biggest city, I'd struggle to think of five girls I'd call 9s/10s in their current lineup (in fact, I can't think of any at the moment...not even close).

I miss a few gems like Zoey, Kelly, etc....but the current crop is still worth seeing in my opinion. A few of the girls I listed can get obnoxious with all the money cow milking of desperate/pathetic men on social media (e.g. Olivia, Sasha), but beyond that, I think it's a good group. And even those girls are really good as long as you train yourself not to visit their pages.
 
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I doubt they have a few moderately decent hoes for a session
But out of all the ladies you said were good is there a single one that is extremely hot and sexy I say no
Average looking girls that are just dirty whores ,
Where as back in the day premier had all the services and extremely good looking whores in the stable
They should try recruiting more horny girls from Ottawa, Quebec and the East Coast. Not enough cocks to go around out that way. That's what the strip clubs were doing years ago. They were importing girls from Montreal and Quebec to work in Ontario.
 
They should try recruiting more horny girls from Ottawa, Quebec and the East Coast. Not enough cocks to go around out that way. That's what the strip clubs were doing years ago. They were importing girls from Montreal and Quebec to work in Ontario.

Also Romania and Prague and Budapest etc. Honestly, that's where some of the hottest ones came from. But after Judy Sgro that kind of died....that, and enough Eastern Euro economies improved that the reason to come over here went away.

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust fund dollars or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.
 
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The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out
 
The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out
Turdo's more interested in pleasing gays instead of heterosexuals. It's called reverse discrimination. Why do you need an exotic dancer visa anyway? Does it have to be a visa for a specific job? Why can't they immigrate and stay here permanently? I do love the large breasts on Croatian women though. Bring some women over from Ukraine.
 
Also Romania and Prague and Budapest etc. Honestly, that's where some of the hottest ones came from. But after Judy Sgro that kind of died....that, and enough Eastern Euro economies improved that the reason to come over here went away.

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust funds or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.
Yeah, Budapest. More sexy women like Eva and Zsa Zsa. As long as you keep them in the city. They may be allergic to smelling hay.
 
The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out

Which party is pro sex work?
 
I'd rank almost every one of those girls as well above avg vs. the general population. Yeah, compared to Katie, none are at that pinnacle of hotness...but so few in the industry ever come close to those heights. And to be honest, NOBODY at Seductions right now is even close to Katie hot. Even at a place like Brass Rail, which is theoretically the top strip club in Canada's biggest city, I'd struggle to think of five girls I'd call 9s/10s in their current lineup (in fact, I can't think of any at the moment...not even close).

I miss a few gems like Zoey, Kelly, etc....but the current crop is still worth seeing in my opinion. A few of the girls I listed can get obnoxious with all the money cow milking of desperate/pathetic men on social media (e.g. Olivia, Sasha), but beyond that, I think it's a good group. And even those girls are really good as long as you train yourself not to visit their pages.
There's no way you think half of those girls are considered above average look wise, half of them you listed Erika/Mackenzie/Sasha/Michelle/Alice/Estela are all below average compared to basically every girl at Seduction and HFH and what Premier used to be Pre Covid and even if you say body wise half of those I just listed are not even that attractive or fit but just give great sessions so they're worth seeing

This girls at seduction and HFH are way hotter than Premier are now, its just the sessions are usually awful and they're charging higher prices than Indie SPs for 30 minute sessions when you can get an hour for $400 from almost every SP in Toronto
 
There's no way you think half of those girls are considered above average look wise, half of them you listed Erika/Mackenzie/Sasha/Michelle/Alice/Estela are all below average compared to basically every girl at Seduction and HFH and what Premier used to be Pre Covid and even if you say body wise half of those I just listed are not even that attractive or fit but just give great sessions so they're worth seeing

This girls at seduction and HFH are way hotter than Premier are now, its just the sessions are usually awful and they're charging higher prices than Indie SPs for 30 minute sessions when you can get an hour for $400 from almost every SP in Toronto

Candyman's last comment said it best:

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust funds or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.
 
I don't think Premier sucks now a days at all but there is no denying that over the last few years they have lost a lot of great talent. Case and point for me, Tracy recently left and to me that was a huge loss. But 3-5 years ago I never even saw Tracy because she was at S9 and not even working at the top.locations. Back then Tracy wouldn't have been in my top ten of girls to see. And that's no disrespect to Tracy because she',s phenomenal. There were just so many other stars. Now there simply aren't like there used to be. Still lots of good options to have a great session with but certainly not like it used to be. I think most people who have frequented Premier for years would agree but maybe not.
 
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    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธ Japanese girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  42. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE is a young slim Vietnamese girl with a beauty face, C Cup, 5'2" & 100 Lbs, student and model looks, vg at fs multiple positions, bbbj ymmv must be clean and respectful. LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a slim Chinese lady with a nice bust and narrow waist. Great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  44. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage,back walk, very friendly,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucy ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  46. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anjoo,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young cute sophia 30โ€™s slime, fun Vicky with curve body 25โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. romiogames0:
    Mumbai
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: HANNA, JENNY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. HANA is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls doing massage today. Kiki and Bella. They are short, young and pretty, with sweet smiles and good massage
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