Premier sucks now

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

With the loss of all of their top stars, Premier has really gone down hill. One look at their roster and I see maybe one or 2 worthy girls but the rest are waste of time and money.

Helena leaving Premier is the nail in the coffin. Seduction spa has now surpassed Premier and is the better place to go now.

 

[AznGangsta]

Who is still worth seeing there?

 

[Mr.420]

Avah, Olivia and Mackenzie.

 

[Deleted member 80435]

Don't see Bella. Highly overrated imo, high upsells no sensuality avg looks avg body again imo.

 

[Rayvw]

What about any of the busty girls without pics like Roxy, Janelle, Gigi, and Kiana?
Anyone seen them?

 

[Average_Olivia@Premier]

I saw Paula in the lineup. Cute, worth a shot.

 

[MysterE Man]

I disagree.

I hate the way you have to register your phone at Pure, which kept me away for a few years. It's such an annoying privacy violation. That being said, I've returned since mid 2021, and have had a good time at every session I've had in the past year. I go every few weeks, except when I get really busy at work.

Ones I have enjoyed and went the full mile with include: Olivia, Marissa, Sasha, Destiny, Kourtney, Alice, Salma, Erika, Ruby, Mackenzie, Dalia, Estela, Michelle. All at a minimum good sessions, and some really great sessions.

There were a few girls too scared to have sex with me and my fairly large penis (typically small, Asian), but even with those girls -- and I won't call them out by name -- it was at least a good no-extras session and really nice service.

By comparison, I've been to Seduction with six girls over the past year, and only Shina and Nikki were really good sessions. Two were terrible and seemed like the girls were being forced to do the job, and two were just mediocre and mechanical. So overall, way worse odds there vs. Premier for me.

 

[Kawailuvr]

I disagree.

I hate the way you have to register your phone at Pure, which kept me away for a few years. It's such an annoying privacy violation. That being said, I've returned since mid 2021, and have had a good time at every session I've had in the past year. I go every few weeks, except when I get really busy at work.

Ones I have enjoyed and went the full mile with include: Olivia, Marissa, Sasha, Destiny, Kourtney, Alice, Salma, Erika, Ruby, Mackenzie, Dalia, Estela. All at a minimum good sessions, and some really great sessions.

There were a few girls too scared to have sex with me and my fairly large penis (typically small, Asian), but even with those girls -- and I won't call them out by name -- it was at least a good no-extras session and really nice service.

By comparison, I've been to Seduction with six girls over the past year, and only Shina and Nikki were really good sessions. Two were terrible and seemed like the girls were being forced to do the job, and two were just mediocre and mechanical. So overall, way worse odds there vs. Premier for me.

I doubt they have a few moderately decent hoes for a session
But out of all the ladies you said were good is there a single one that is extremely hot and sexy I say no
Average looking girls that are just dirty whores ,
Where as back in the day premier had all the services and extremely good looking whores in the stable

 

[pussyforlunch]

There's no one really hot at Premier left. Katie, Jennifer and Carla are gone. They just have average looking girls now

 

[Deleted member 80435]

There's no one really hot at Premier left. Katie, Jennifer and Carla are gone. They just have average looking girls now

My thoughts exactly

 

[MysterE Man]

My thoughts exactly

I'd rank almost every one of those girls as well above avg vs. the general population. Yeah, compared to Katie, none are at that pinnacle of hotness...but so few in the industry ever come close to those heights. And to be honest, NOBODY at Seductions right now is even close to Katie hot. Even at a place like Brass Rail, which is theoretically the top strip club in Canada's biggest city, I'd struggle to think of five girls I'd call 9s/10s in their current lineup (in fact, I can't think of any at the moment...not even close).

I miss a few gems like Zoey, Kelly, etc....but the current crop is still worth seeing in my opinion. A few of the girls I listed can get obnoxious with all the money cow milking of desperate/pathetic men on social media (e.g. Olivia, Sasha), but beyond that, I think it's a good group. And even those girls are really good as long as you train yourself not to visit their pages.

 

[snoopdoggie]

I doubt they have a few moderately decent hoes for a session
But out of all the ladies you said were good is there a single one that is extremely hot and sexy I say no
Average looking girls that are just dirty whores ,
Where as back in the day premier had all the services and extremely good looking whores in the stable

They should try recruiting more horny girls from Ottawa, Quebec and the East Coast. Not enough cocks to go around out that way. That's what the strip clubs were doing years ago. They were importing girls from Montreal and Quebec to work in Ontario.

 

[MysterE Man]

They should try recruiting more horny girls from Ottawa, Quebec and the East Coast. Not enough cocks to go around out that way. That's what the strip clubs were doing years ago. They were importing girls from Montreal and Quebec to work in Ontario.

Also Romania and Prague and Budapest etc. Honestly, that's where some of the hottest ones came from. But after Judy Sgro that kind of died....that, and enough Eastern Euro economies improved that the reason to come over here went away.

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust fund dollars or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.

 

[Likethesmell]

The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out

 

[snoopdoggie]

The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out

Turdo's more interested in pleasing gays instead of heterosexuals. It's called reverse discrimination. Why do you need an exotic dancer visa anyway? Does it have to be a visa for a specific job? Why can't they immigrate and stay here permanently? I do love the large breasts on Croatian women though. Bring some women over from Ukraine.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Also Romania and Prague and Budapest etc. Honestly, that's where some of the hottest ones came from. But after Judy Sgro that kind of died....that, and enough Eastern Euro economies improved that the reason to come over here went away.

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust funds or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.

Yeah, Budapest. More sexy women like Eva and Zsa Zsa. As long as you keep them in the city. They may be allergic to smelling hay.

 

[AznGangsta]

The Eastern Europeans stopped coming over because Harper and his cronies took away the exotic dancer visa. We used to fresh supply of EE talent in the clubs that would filter into the rest of the industry.
So all of you that voted for the cons, fuck you, they are always demonising sex work and people that seek it out

Which party is pro sex work?

 

[LuckyShot]

I'd rank almost every one of those girls as well above avg vs. the general population. Yeah, compared to Katie, none are at that pinnacle of hotness...but so few in the industry ever come close to those heights. And to be honest, NOBODY at Seductions right now is even close to Katie hot. Even at a place like Brass Rail, which is theoretically the top strip club in Canada's biggest city, I'd struggle to think of five girls I'd call 9s/10s in their current lineup (in fact, I can't think of any at the moment...not even close).

I miss a few gems like Zoey, Kelly, etc....but the current crop is still worth seeing in my opinion. A few of the girls I listed can get obnoxious with all the money cow milking of desperate/pathetic men on social media (e.g. Olivia, Sasha), but beyond that, I think it's a good group. And even those girls are really good as long as you train yourself not to visit their pages.

There's no way you think half of those girls are considered above average look wise, half of them you listed Erika/Mackenzie/Sasha/Michelle/Alice/Estela are all below average compared to basically every girl at Seduction and HFH and what Premier used to be Pre Covid and even if you say body wise half of those I just listed are not even that attractive or fit but just give great sessions so they're worth seeing

This girls at seduction and HFH are way hotter than Premier are now, its just the sessions are usually awful and they're charging higher prices than Indie SPs for 30 minute sessions when you can get an hour for $400 from almost every SP in Toronto

 

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There's no way you think half of those girls are considered above average look wise, half of them you listed Erika/Mackenzie/Sasha/Michelle/Alice/Estela are all below average compared to basically every girl at Seduction and HFH and what Premier used to be Pre Covid and even if you say body wise half of those I just listed are not even that attractive or fit but just give great sessions so they're worth seeing

This girls at seduction and HFH are way hotter than Premier are now, its just the sessions are usually awful and they're charging higher prices than Indie SPs for 30 minute sessions when you can get an hour for $400 from almost every SP in Toronto

Candyman's last comment said it best:

I'd personally take a 7-8 girl who gives great sessions over a 9-10 who is just hot though. So often the really really hot ones are spoiled so much by that that they don't have to work very hard to please. That, or they just price out of the range that's possible for guys who aren't blowing all kinds of trust funds or corrupt corporate funds on the hobby.

 

[Deleted member 80579]

I don't think Premier sucks now a days at all but there is no denying that over the last few years they have lost a lot of great talent. Case and point for me, Tracy recently left and to me that was a huge loss. But 3-5 years ago I never even saw Tracy because she was at S9 and not even working at the top.locations. Back then Tracy wouldn't have been in my top ten of girls to see. And that's no disrespect to Tracy because she',s phenomenal. There were just so many other stars. Now there simply aren't like there used to be. Still lots of good options to have a great session with but certainly not like it used to be. I think most people who have frequented Premier for years would agree but maybe not.