160 is the NEW 200!

Dammit! Missed the 160/hr for a KMP.

Looks like Velvet Curtain (now Black Rose) raised prices. Besides Eden... Any other KMP at the 160/hr rate now? TB mentioned something about KobiotoNY, but I can't find any information about them.
 
I've been personally involved with a few KMP girls and mamasans. In fact, I picked up the earned house fees from a house to bring to the owner (after sampling of course). Believe me, in good economic times, these gals at a good spot can make $1000 a day (if she can put up with 10 cocks a day).

Things have definitely slowed for many places. And yes, the tougher time have caused more gals to try their hand at operating their own shops. Plus, gals who worked in other cities are coming to NYC because the recession has not hit NYC as hard as other states. There's definitely a glut at the moment.
 
...all across the boards about shifts in pricing and this has nothing to do with ethnicity, SPAs and Indies included. You've got the Flushing price wars, $100 exclusive & all-inclusive specials all around for 15-30min time increments, and the 150-200 FS range pricing theme mainly in Manhattan here.That's not to mention the UG* [that's UnderGround]players and events. There is higher pricing but who cares?.. if you're dumb enough to pay it then don't get mad when you get scammed. Hellloo.. you're already being scammed! The only players that don't seem to have gotten the message are the agencies but who in their right mind goes to an agency anymore anyway? Any comments or comparisons? Please do not PM me for info, the info is all around on this and other boards!
 
I went to Mr.lights once because it was not very clean, the women were not attractive to me & they were MILFy and they were all the way out in Flushing. I live in Manhattan so when you factor everything in even at 140 it was not worth it to me.

Some guys like the seedy atmosphere, I can imagine that being the case, the hobby is about appealing to the different psychologies and fetishes. That goes for the looks too, I can imagine some guys digging the older women. It is all a matter of taste.

For me it was never about just busting a nut in a no hold's barred situation. For example the BBBJ was not my thing, I prefer to play it safe. For me it was about being with an attractive woman who was pleasing to all of the senses and who carried herself in a pleasing manner too. Then it was about living out fantasies of being with a particular woman who reminded me of a friend's wife or something. I would hold on a week to forgo the cheap nut and treat myself to something nice. But we all know price is not everything, you could pay less and actually have a nicer experience sometimes. So it is way to simple to think everyone thinks alike or wants the same thing. If I had a choice between two places that were clones that were right next to each other and one charged less of course I would go for the cheaper clone but each woman and place is different and that is why we keep in the hobby until we find someone we just want to repeat with again and again for whatever reasons.

Comparing prices from different decades overlooks inflation.
It always must be adjusted.

Here's a link to an inflation calculator.

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

Adjusting for inflation
What cost $120 in 1980 = $309.64 in 2008.
What cost $200 in 1995 = $279.95 in 2008.
What cost $200 in 2008 =$142.88 in 1995.
What cost $200 in 2000 w= $247.70 in 2008.

I think the $200 price has been around for a long time without adjusting for inflation. Nab made a good point about the Won being down compared to the dollar perhaps allowing these businesses to charge a decade old price today.

My 2 cents,
TB
 
Taking Peps24 pov, a tsunami of sorts could occur in the Kamps market if customer demand shifts to the 160 venues more.
 
What" ain't no country I've ever heard of

But here's my 2 cents without reading the prior 3 pages of posts....I'm not no genius but if you got a place that for argument's sake charging $140 and the next place $200, even if the 200$ spot may be better and in such and such a way, I would personally be more inclined to visit the cheaper place more frequently therefore both sides of the equation would be happy... Mr. Light's AMP was a prime example of cheap rates, excellent service and everyone still returned even if the did complain about the scenery!
 
I remember paying $120 back in the mid 80's. Then I paid $140 for asian only places recently. That said, $160 is an outstanding price.
 
I would love to know where the 160 fs kmp place is at in manhattan ...that is open 24 hours. Any information would be appreciated since I'm new to the hobby.
 
hey TB. i tried one of these 160 places the other day and that was my experience...that there's not much communication between mama and the girl. but the girl disappeared for one min and checked with mama and when she came back her attitude was great. no detectable difference between $$ and 160 session.

in fact she was quite good. i usually dont tip if made to pay upfront but i did and she was obviously not expecting it. so it could have been 160 flat for a good session. she even gave me one of those disc cards for $100 off the 7th visit which actually stands a real chance of bringing the final cost to $145...within spitting distance of the average asian-only place...without the need to hike to flushing/brooklyn/ctown...
 
If they don't clue the girl before hand this is a sure fire way to get off on the wrong foot. It needs to be the store policy and not a shell game. Saving $40 dollars for a lack luster time and the label, "cheap bastard" just isn't worth it to me. I go to have fun not bargain for sex, that just blows. I am not into coerssion in the game, that kind of bargining is cool with shoes but not poontang. If the house has a rule and everyone knows what to expect before hand, I would be delighted with the extra pocket change.

Also looks like VC has shifted it's price up for newbies.
 
Business is down for sure. Nab good commentary as usual The shit hit the fan. Girls are desperate to make dough. Milf providers have skyrocketed because many came in before the pulse stopped in the US. Places are dropping their prices, but the quality will suffer too. Guys with disposable incomes have carte blanche wherever they go now.

A friend of mine who is a top rated amp girl just came back from a hotspot location after 2 weeks. Her take was 8500. If this was 2-5 years ago she said that would be more than double. So YES the hobby suffers along with the rest of the down economy I'm afraid to say.
 
IN- EPT' adjective : without the required skill, knowledge or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit:

Synonyms: unskillful, bungling, pointless, inane.

If you know what the price is from reading it on this board why would you ask what the price is? I popped into V.C. on my way home to confirm and the response I got was a chuckle, followed by "we have new girls!" and "160, one hour"... nuff said!!
 
What is this, Mexican-Chinese, or Mexican in China? Either way this is a pretty funny find
 
... now what's the pricing like over there [Yuan]?
C'mon edge-a-ma-kate us .. a little more factual data please if anyone has any.
 
They already exist in the PRC as, you guessed it, massage girls who "operate out of storefronts that appear to be either barber shops or massage parlors from the outside,..."

http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/prostitution-in-china.htm
 
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  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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