160 is the NEW 200!

but is the current condition such that we are in poontango or is it poontangdation?

ok, very few will probably get this, but with all the econ talk I couldn't resist.
 
My .02...

the 'strenthening' of the WON against the dollar doesn't mean the dollar is weakening....

if across the board the dollar was down vs the Euro, yen etc....

The WON has bounced a bit bc there has been some 'investment' from inside Korea through foreign currency (Hong Kong for example) back in to Korea which has stimiulated things (makes it seem like Korea is a good place to invest).

Basically a few Korean WHALES (casino language) have made some circuitous investments into Korea to help get the WON up from the 1500's (vs the dollar) to the mid 1200's...I don't fully understand how this all works, but...

back on point to the discussion...looking at 1 currency versus another doesn't paint the complete picture, so although TB is right and the WON has bounced as it relates to the USD, Golem is also right that the USD in general is stronger than it was months ago...

but wtf to I know ;-)
 
What is service like in these other countries? Why do you think it is not offered here?

I am not sure we will be seeing the influx of talent we once got back in the 90's and early 2000 before the Bush years took their fucking toll. The word is out in Asia, America is on the decline and the streets are no longer paved with gold all the boys on Wall street have taken it all and left none for anyone else. So hot chics working MP's from abroad, probably not going to happen. Now, girls made in the USA, we might be seeing more of that, as cute college girls find it hard to get jobs and pay back the student loans and credit cards. We may end up with a demographic shift. For whatever reason, USA putang doesn't do it for me.


As for a huge leap in demand for better service, not sure, I think the average monger doesn't care- I think they are acting on impulse. See hot girl, me get girl. Cheap hot robots are the shit.

I would rather pay 200 for a good time than to get the rush at 160 but the average guy probably thinks, "what do I need the hour for, I cum in 10 minutes?" I think I want to get value out of this fucker. I want to delay my orgasm until the grandfather clock start chiming. It also delivers a much better orgasm with much more impressive loads, than a multi-pop lay. The secret of tantra!!! Why do you think they call me the monkey lord? Because I am a swami of sex.
All of these minute men leave the girls unsatisfied, the monkey lord steps in and they lose their fuckng minds.
 
I don't really think they're competing with other parts of the world.
 
KMPS or AMPS need a different approach. They need to change what they offer to be more competitive to what you can get in Europe, Canada and other parts of the world.

I would wager the vast majority of this board would pay more than the standard 200 for service akin to what you can get in London and Seoul or Toronto.

This type of service is simply hard to find in NYC.

For the R&T places, they just need to get away from these 40+ year old talent and mongers will flock in droves.

This business is tough, but a little adjustment could bring volume to historic levels.
 
No need to bitch out now and go private. I for one am enjoying the high brow debate for the price of NYC pussy.

There is no name calling and childish antics, both sides are trying to present as much information to back up the opinions.

So gentlemen please continue with your ongoing debate on how all the external factors are influencing the loosening of the current price of robotic pussy.
 
The graph is based on currency exchange rates and has been plotted so that the average mathematically literate person can see the trend. Maybe instead of just reading articles you should look at the numbers. There are a lot of open questions when someone writes something like this. "What time frame are they talking about?", "What are they comparing?"....

The relevant comparison was how the dollar was doing against the Won RECENTLY- like the past 4 weeks... It is declining against the Won. What is the expected trend? With the stimulus package coming on line and dollars flooding the market it is likely to continue to decline versus currencies who's countries are not bailing out their banks.

I am not an economics major or MBA but I don't think it is that difficult for an average person to figure out.


Please PM me any further argument and spare the board the static. This is not the point of the thread or the board.

This is the putang exchange not the currency exchange.

Peace to all mongers,
TB
 
Oil tops $51 on US inventories report
Oil prices climb as crude inventories come in below analyst estimates

Mark Williams, AP Energy Writer
Wednesday April 8, 2009, 12:38 pm EDT

Benchmark crude for May delivery rose $2.15 to $51.30 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Some analysts suggested the rally came from traders covering bets that the price of oil would fall.
For the week ended Friday crude supplies increased by 1.7 million barrels, or 0.5 percent, to 361.1 million barrels, 15.2 percent above year-ago levels, the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said in its weekly report. Analysts had expected a boost of 2.3 million barrels, according to a survey by Platts, the energy information arm of McGraw-Hill Cos.

"We're swimming in this stuff," oil analyst and trader Stephen Schork said after the report was released, noting that crude levels already were at 16-year highs before the release of the report.

Gasoline inventories rose by 600,000 barrels, or 0.3 percent, to 217.4 million barrels, 1.4 percent below year-ago levels. Analysts expected stockpiles of the motor fuel to fall by 1.5 million barrels.
At the same time, U.S. refineries ran at 81.8 percent of total capacity on average, an increase of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week. Analysts expected capacity to increase 0.25 percentage point to 81.95 percent...
Prices were lower before the government data came out. Addision Armstrong of Tradition Energy said he believes the rally was a result of traders covering positions in which they were betting that oil would fall.

But after reaching $52.64 Thursday, oil has fallen every day until Wednesday. Jim Ritmassageplanetusch of Ritmassageplanetusch and Associates said oil prices have been following the stock market lower the past few days.

"Oil also has been hurt by a strengthening dollar, he said. Because crude is bought and sold in dollars, a barrel of crude becomes cheaper if the dollar moves higher."
"It's a combination of a strong dollar and a weakening stock market. That's a pretty bearish combo for the energy complex," he said.
Other government data released Wednesday showed wholesalers cut their inventories in February by the steepest amount in more than 17 years as companies struggled to reduce stockpiles amid slowing sales.... "


Just one of the many acrticles & reports [redacted here] on the exchange markets I read daily! Wrong guy to talk to about "the facts" unless you have some.
The question is: what's the trend? The dollar will fall eventually as a result of there being so many dollars in circulation but that hasn't happened yet.
The Korean currency has continued its fall against the dollar for the last few months.
As far as other places that have the 160 price-tag?.. they are not advertising their prices yet.. BTW neither is V.C. right now.
 
See my edits- and look at the graph.
The facts are the facts...
 
Demand for some things are not radically elastic- I am not sure where Putang is in that spectrum.

If they drop price by 40% what increase in business would compensate depends on the level of business they were doing before the price change and how much they were charging. The less business they were doing the more sense it makes to drop the price, the more business they were doing the more sense it makes for them to keep the price. It is more than likely everyone is going to have to settle for less and face the reality that we have been living in a bubble for a decade or more.

Anyway, 160 putang has been out there for ages. I think what hurts KMP's a lot is the very boring scripted service you get from most of them. A lot of guys get lured by the hot pictures but if the girl is a robot it will never be worth it.

I don't think America is the land of Milk and Honey to Koreans anymore and many are packing their bags for Europe or elsewhere instead. The value of the dollar has slipped radically in the past month even relative to the Won.
Have you noticed how much recycling of talent is going on? The over supply is probably more a function of slipping demand.

But who cares about all of this eco talk? There are two places posted so far offering 1 hour of putang for 160 24/7, VC and KobiotoNY and one spot for the weekend, E4A.

Is it a trend? It might be. The important thing is hearing stories about these spots.

It is tight all around but where it counts most is having a tight putang.

TB

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Note the slope in the value of the dollar versus the Won from late-Feburary to today. Any analyst would consider that a recent steep decline in value of the dollar versus the won. That's just the facts...
 
I think good points- the only thing I would add is that some girls def. do not want super high volume. So as long they can maintain a floor volume now, no real reason to drop price.

I would add one more thing to this thread. I don't feel the need to pay high prices to feel good. I am perfectly happy to see prices fall. I know I am not the only one on here with "world" experience (including years living in SE Asia), but I disagree with a lot of the posts on here that KMP's are particularly overpriced. $200 for one of the "icons" is DIRT cheap. You can pay around that (if you are white or japanese) for a high end girl in Bangkok who works off the same basic script. In bangkok, FFS, where everything is comparatively inexpensive by leaps and bounds. (There, of course, you can also pay $120 to have a 3some with 2 girls ugly enough to work at Golds that do bbjcim/greek/facials, etc.) London would be a lot more expensive and Montreal is no bargain either. The best-looking KMP girls compare very favorably in terms of looks with the girls anywhere (IMO) and it is some combo of looks/charm/gfe that guys will pay more for.

In bangkok, you can go to the beer garden on soi 7 and there will be a bunch of guys standing around bitching that "pussy is never worth more than 500 baht" (around 15 bucks) mostly because they don't have more than that to spend. That's fine, but there are a lot of guys with a lot of money (I'm not one of them) that will pay the $200+ for miss june from the Thai penthouse. Same thing here in NYC. More than enough guys with enough coin that dropping $200 for Tera/Pinky is no big deal. Hell, a "high-end" asian r&t in NYC with a woman not as attractive can run $120 -140 and nude r&t with a white chick $200. I am guessing the girls below the headliners are probably taking the worst of the hit. Anyway my 2 cents and like I said I am not a proponent of higher prices and would be thrilled to see lower prices but I think things need to be in the proper perspective.
 
basic economics right? lower prices mean greater volume but can mean higher total $. just have to find the point with the greatest area under the demand curve. given where the won is now, for girls repatriating $ to korea, i suspect the total take is definitely higher now even at 160 than a year or so ago. but if their expenses are in dollars (us shopping, gambling, host bars) then the take is likely less.

previously the girls had all the volume they could handle (or more) at $$ in midtown. but now with traffic off the clearing price seems lower...to get rid of the excess capacity. an idle hour for a girl is like an empty airline seat...once that time has passed, that capacity is lost.

i also still suspect the lowering of the visa requirements for kgirls is increasing supply (and hence costs to the shops to procure talent) so its a supply side issue as well
 
i havent gotten into 120 places myself. but asian only places are generally 130 or 140 in flushing and ctown.
 
Glad to see that prices are coming down too; and they could even come down more when you think in terms of what you are paying for a session; and what most of us make per hour. It would be nice to make $160/hour. My guess is that not many of us do.
So a toast to lower prices.
If prices would come down more, I suspect that these girls would be making a lot more money.
 
I totally agree with the new prices. Times are a little tighter now for alot of guys. But what really amazes me on how much some of the girls still charge in these times
 
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  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girls Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man.Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back
  32. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa๐ŸŒธsexy hot busty Latino ๐ŸŒนViennese ๐ŸŒนKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  33. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tue Blu? ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, JPN Yui, Echo, 36D Amber, Anita & Korean Lunaโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa(9421Jane st unit 127)Rmt available Tuesday and Wednesday,sexy girl Tina and very beautiful girl Mimi ,Friendly Lucy on the duty,they both do very nice treatment and excellent finish,โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800must try today๐Ÿ‘™๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ’„
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธClaireCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    Sasa is working at Sparkling Spa with Zoe today Tuesday November 5th. Real pictures of Sasa & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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