160 is the NEW 200!

I know stamford places are usually around 160 and a lot of the same girls will work there. Where are these 120 places? I am not doubting- I just want to know.
 
now this is a funny comment

you know...most of the girls that work at these 200 places...also work from time to time at non-midtown places and are happy with 120-140. believe me...the service in whatever venue you see them is exactly the same. a girls service is what it is, and a few $ more or less wont change it.
 
A friend that's been in the biz forever actually made a good point though; you're paying each girl for their time, not paying for "doubling your own", if you know what I mean..... So I think it's logical that whatever is standard applies when it's a three-way.
 
Wow, that kinda sucks. I thought I could get a GFE?PSE experience from a KMP if I paid for a threesome. I didn;t know these girls are so health conscious as to expect me to change condoms during mid-fuck.

Final Destination, thanks for the tip. I guess I'll see each one indivdually then.
 
They rarely do lesbian act and it's usually 1 pop period. It also gets tiring changing condoms every time you want to switch girls. Just pay for two girls separately and you'll get more value.
 
Does anyone know in a KMP, if I pay for 2 girls for a single hour, do I get 2 pops, i.e. 1 pop per girl? Does anyone ever have a threesome at a KMP? Do the girls perform any lesbian act with each other in a threesome or would they just wait on you?
 
VC doesn't have a website but they do advertise on CV and CL....I've been there quite a few times over the last 3 months.
 
actually the face looked like sugar to me. now that I have seen the site and more photos, def not her. thanks for the link and they should learn how to spell their own f8cking name.
 
1. that pic of penny doesn't look like sugar to me. sugar is more toned.
2. what is the deal with this velvet curtain place? do they have a website? can anyone confirm that their ads are not b&s?
3. i know here and in cali amp rates are pretty much standard across the board, but down in texas (dallas and houston) rates and services seem to vary at FS amps. oddly, i found that rates and services don't correllate down there anyways ... you could pay $160 for a more gfe session with one girl at one place in dallas (bbbj, msog) and then pay $200 for a more mechanical standard kmp session at another. go figure.
 
While I am glad that $160 places are opening- from what I am told-while biz is off at the $200 places, the girls aren't exactly going hungry yet. Whatever anyone wants to say about the assumptions- even if they get down to 3-5 customers a day at a KMP, the girl can do ok moneywise. And there were always cheaper places.
Will be interesting to see if the newheavens/luxy's follow on price, shut down, or the girls move to the 160 places. My guess is as long as they are doing well enough, they won't. Will have to wait and see. Am curious- anyone know if Tasha at VC is "the" Tasha? Along the lines of Cantinflas post, AMP's may get more interesting too as girls offer more extras to make up for lost volume-- that seems to be my experience lately.
 
Live and learn, but it is easy to see that you are a bright man who speaks with an emotional tongue.

There are ads on CL that have a $100 outcall...
Everyone is feeling the pinch and you better adjust or get kicked to the curb.

The owners had taken a cut $60/$100 or $80/$80, but soon the next wave will be on the girls.

There are quite a number of guys who feel it's just pussy and that whole GFE thing is nothing but a dream. So why not patronize the least expensive place with the decent girls.

My personal evaluation of the situation is that a Massage place (or hybrids) will do better that the F/S KMP, there's more bang for the buck.
You go in, pay the house fee and you decide how much to spend afterwards.

Hey Tastebud, I need someone to be the Voice of my Charity, The Wayward KMP Girls of the Lost Trident. (Girls that think they have Gold between their legs and have found nothing but Lead)
 
It does look like the dominoes are beginning to fall.

Golem, I have been schooled.

I called and although the website is down this does appear to be a new spot, not just another name for VC. The location is near 40th and 9th. I believe VC was 35th and 7th Ave or something like that. That makes two KMP's now.

The girls also look hotter at this location than at VC. This could be interesting.

I guess DB is wrong this time. KMP's will compete on price in a down market.


I will wait and see if the reviews confirm mongers are getting the rush or not.

Curious,
TB
 
FM, you know are my man. I am all about crashing myths. It is myths like these that probably lure young women into the biz.

On the surface it sounds great, get paid fat bank to participate in the most pleasurable activity there is, and do it all day long...

I think if you are a girl with a perfect body, pretty face and you provide excellent service you can still do well but there is a lot of competition in this city so it might not be the piece of cake it appears to be, particularly in a down market.

Peace always,
TB
 
Ok, I am on board- it's a trend. Is that website www. koibotony.com?? doesn't seem to work. Oh and hard to say from just the one photo but penny's photo looks like it could be a lifted photo of sugar.
 
What we have here is an example of excessive supply due to the global economic downturn and the very effective ROK anti โ€“ prostitution laws. Apparently, the opportunities for todayโ€™s business K-girls are restricted. So, they can stay in the ROK and remain under surveillance of the authorities, or travel to NYC where thereโ€™s a reasonable degree of anonymity but a great deal of competition. Therefore, in order to attract customers away from the well ensconced KMPs, they lower their pricing, attract more customers, and increase their revenue.

Another $160 KMP : UNFORGETTABLE SESSIONS BY SEXY ASIAN....*** - w4m (Midtown West)

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/1110325163.html
 
Come one Tbud i was just doing a little monger math...we all would like to think its a perfect world but we know its not

and i did say its $80+...the city is the only place that has those unreal hotel fees...bx is $80 overnight all day lol
 
$80 hotel, are you joking? Think more like at least 200-400 in this town if you want to be close to where the money is.
$80 for two hours maybe at one of those seedy spots.

What makes you think you will get 10 customers? Where do you get these numbers from? What if you only get 2 to 4?

Again, the numbers just may not be realistic.

The job hazards: you might get robbed, beat up, rapped, murdered, HIV, or arrested.

This is a dirty, dangerous job that at this end of the cost spectrum is filled by desperate people with few real options.

This is not glamrous, fun, easy money by any stretch. It is crazy to think otherwise.

High class agencies or girls charging 1G or more probably get better clients, work conditions, and protection while bagging real cash.

We have to stop glamarizing the profession to make ourselves feel better because we want to believe the girls are very well compensated for the shit they have to put up with.
 
I pretty much agree with everything but the skanky hotel, but there is money to be made at any price level.

Price at $200 can be a little high so a 10 customer girl only gets 8 today= $1600

Viewed by some as an attainable price $160, girl gets 10 customers= $1600 and a pussy that's a little more sore.

There is money out there for a new price point, greed is what has us where we are now.
 
One thing is for sure in my head...the price to run an indy business...

Hotel room $80+

Product overhead

Condoms ...free LOL
Baby wipes $5+ $10 bottle of KY
Cell phone $50 per month unlimited WITH TAX (boost phone)
Cheap thongs and bra's $50 per month (ebay)

Cost of product...what product??? lol

Ads budget $20-$100 per working day MAX

10 clients per day x $160 = $1600

Average Profit $1300 per day x 3days per week low side ($2900)

$2900 x 52 weeks 150k+ per year -33% margin for error in my calculations

100k total profit

Any questions?????? LOL
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Today and tomorrow RMT available,Ensuit shower is available ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„Tina beautiful face,open mind she can provide everything you want ๐Ÿ’„very beautiful Q girl Lucy deep tissue massage hot stone ,can remove your pain,very popular,give you warm comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Bella and kiki work
  39. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite
  40. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  45. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 6 to 7 different style masseuse working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐ŸŽŠ๐ŸŽŠ
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament April, Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Grace,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Molly๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new quick witted and funny girl Molly from the Philippines is here to entertain you not only with her sensual massage skills but also with her sense of humour and her happy go lucky friendly attitude. Filipina Molly ca
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒผDaisy Spa๐ŸŒผ, 900 Middlefield Rd, Scarborough, ON 437-231-9229: Dora & Emma DORA is a curvy hot black chick. Waiting for you. EMMA (10am-0pm) is a slim & very pretty Brazilian/Guyanese girl. Daisy Spa has a nice lineup of attractive young ladies, and we are constantly getting better. Our spacious location is clean and well maintained, and our bevy of beauties will be sure to satisfy
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco
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