160 is the NEW 200!

I know stamford places are usually around 160 and a lot of the same girls will work there. Where are these 120 places? I am not doubting- I just want to know.
 
now this is a funny comment

you know...most of the girls that work at these 200 places...also work from time to time at non-midtown places and are happy with 120-140. believe me...the service in whatever venue you see them is exactly the same. a girls service is what it is, and a few $ more or less wont change it.
 
A friend that's been in the biz forever actually made a good point though; you're paying each girl for their time, not paying for "doubling your own", if you know what I mean..... So I think it's logical that whatever is standard applies when it's a three-way.
 
Wow, that kinda sucks. I thought I could get a GFE?PSE experience from a KMP if I paid for a threesome. I didn;t know these girls are so health conscious as to expect me to change condoms during mid-fuck.

Final Destination, thanks for the tip. I guess I'll see each one indivdually then.
 
They rarely do lesbian act and it's usually 1 pop period. It also gets tiring changing condoms every time you want to switch girls. Just pay for two girls separately and you'll get more value.
 
Does anyone know in a KMP, if I pay for 2 girls for a single hour, do I get 2 pops, i.e. 1 pop per girl? Does anyone ever have a threesome at a KMP? Do the girls perform any lesbian act with each other in a threesome or would they just wait on you?
 
VC doesn't have a website but they do advertise on CV and CL....I've been there quite a few times over the last 3 months.
 
actually the face looked like sugar to me. now that I have seen the site and more photos, def not her. thanks for the link and they should learn how to spell their own f8cking name.
 
1. that pic of penny doesn't look like sugar to me. sugar is more toned.
2. what is the deal with this velvet curtain place? do they have a website? can anyone confirm that their ads are not b&s?
3. i know here and in cali amp rates are pretty much standard across the board, but down in texas (dallas and houston) rates and services seem to vary at FS amps. oddly, i found that rates and services don't correllate down there anyways ... you could pay $160 for a more gfe session with one girl at one place in dallas (bbbj, msog) and then pay $200 for a more mechanical standard kmp session at another. go figure.
 
While I am glad that $160 places are opening- from what I am told-while biz is off at the $200 places, the girls aren't exactly going hungry yet. Whatever anyone wants to say about the assumptions- even if they get down to 3-5 customers a day at a KMP, the girl can do ok moneywise. And there were always cheaper places.
Will be interesting to see if the newheavens/luxy's follow on price, shut down, or the girls move to the 160 places. My guess is as long as they are doing well enough, they won't. Will have to wait and see. Am curious- anyone know if Tasha at VC is "the" Tasha? Along the lines of Cantinflas post, AMP's may get more interesting too as girls offer more extras to make up for lost volume-- that seems to be my experience lately.
 
Live and learn, but it is easy to see that you are a bright man who speaks with an emotional tongue.

There are ads on CL that have a $100 outcall...
Everyone is feeling the pinch and you better adjust or get kicked to the curb.

The owners had taken a cut $60/$100 or $80/$80, but soon the next wave will be on the girls.

There are quite a number of guys who feel it's just pussy and that whole GFE thing is nothing but a dream. So why not patronize the least expensive place with the decent girls.

My personal evaluation of the situation is that a Massage place (or hybrids) will do better that the F/S KMP, there's more bang for the buck.
You go in, pay the house fee and you decide how much to spend afterwards.

Hey Tastebud, I need someone to be the Voice of my Charity, The Wayward KMP Girls of the Lost Trident. (Girls that think they have Gold between their legs and have found nothing but Lead)
 
It does look like the dominoes are beginning to fall.

Golem, I have been schooled.

I called and although the website is down this does appear to be a new spot, not just another name for VC. The location is near 40th and 9th. I believe VC was 35th and 7th Ave or something like that. That makes two KMP's now.

The girls also look hotter at this location than at VC. This could be interesting.

I guess DB is wrong this time. KMP's will compete on price in a down market.


I will wait and see if the reviews confirm mongers are getting the rush or not.

Curious,
TB
 
FM, you know are my man. I am all about crashing myths. It is myths like these that probably lure young women into the biz.

On the surface it sounds great, get paid fat bank to participate in the most pleasurable activity there is, and do it all day long...

I think if you are a girl with a perfect body, pretty face and you provide excellent service you can still do well but there is a lot of competition in this city so it might not be the piece of cake it appears to be, particularly in a down market.

Peace always,
TB
 
Ok, I am on board- it's a trend. Is that website www. koibotony.com?? doesn't seem to work. Oh and hard to say from just the one photo but penny's photo looks like it could be a lifted photo of sugar.
 
What we have here is an example of excessive supply due to the global economic downturn and the very effective ROK anti โ€“ prostitution laws. Apparently, the opportunities for todayโ€™s business K-girls are restricted. So, they can stay in the ROK and remain under surveillance of the authorities, or travel to NYC where thereโ€™s a reasonable degree of anonymity but a great deal of competition. Therefore, in order to attract customers away from the well ensconced KMPs, they lower their pricing, attract more customers, and increase their revenue.

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http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ers/1110325163.html
 
Come one Tbud i was just doing a little monger math...we all would like to think its a perfect world but we know its not

and i did say its $80+...the city is the only place that has those unreal hotel fees...bx is $80 overnight all day lol
 
$80 hotel, are you joking? Think more like at least 200-400 in this town if you want to be close to where the money is.
$80 for two hours maybe at one of those seedy spots.

What makes you think you will get 10 customers? Where do you get these numbers from? What if you only get 2 to 4?

Again, the numbers just may not be realistic.

The job hazards: you might get robbed, beat up, rapped, murdered, HIV, or arrested.

This is a dirty, dangerous job that at this end of the cost spectrum is filled by desperate people with few real options.

This is not glamrous, fun, easy money by any stretch. It is crazy to think otherwise.

High class agencies or girls charging 1G or more probably get better clients, work conditions, and protection while bagging real cash.

We have to stop glamarizing the profession to make ourselves feel better because we want to believe the girls are very well compensated for the shit they have to put up with.
 
I pretty much agree with everything but the skanky hotel, but there is money to be made at any price level.

Price at $200 can be a little high so a 10 customer girl only gets 8 today= $1600

Viewed by some as an attainable price $160, girl gets 10 customers= $1600 and a pussy that's a little more sore.

There is money out there for a new price point, greed is what has us where we are now.
 
One thing is for sure in my head...the price to run an indy business...

Hotel room $80+

Product overhead

Condoms ...free LOL
Baby wipes $5+ $10 bottle of KY
Cell phone $50 per month unlimited WITH TAX (boost phone)
Cheap thongs and bra's $50 per month (ebay)

Cost of product...what product??? lol

Ads budget $20-$100 per working day MAX

10 clients per day x $160 = $1600

Average Profit $1300 per day x 3days per week low side ($2900)

$2900 x 52 weeks 150k+ per year -33% margin for error in my calculations

100k total profit

Any questions?????? LOL
 
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