Bullshit on Articulo 123

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OMG, it's Loganbro, another reject who was banned from TJA? I hope you are coming to this site with good intentions, and not to engage in flame wars like you did at that other site?

The good thing about this site is it has an ignore button.
 
CULERO wrote:

Lets hope so. I asked Ttboy over there why the exact similar posts, so far no answer, he is ignoring me, but I won't leave him alone until I have a answer.

I also looked at the writing style, and there are many similarities, although one of you looks like he is trying to mask it?

I don't have a problem with you CULERO, although it seems like you are having a bit of fun. Ttboy on the other hand, like to pretend that he outs me because I use a different handle on another site. and his anti-Mexico crusade how Mexico is a violent 3rd world country, and reconquista fears are beyond pale.

Ttboy is a member here, maybe he;ll answer here why he copied you CULERO if that's what happened?
 
Now if somebody told me Mariachi singers are mugging people I might believe them, as there are so many out there.

Here is what Burt's highly respected monger El Cochino says about streets off the zona, and he isn't talking about just ART 123, as we got the impression before all the mugging took place on that street before, as he wrote he witnessed 3 mugging without a time frame, well here is his time frame, and he doesn't state where the mugging took place: it's 12 years, and a lot have changed in 12 years. And he basically says what I say, there are a whole lot of more dangerous areas in the states then in Tijuana.

What El Cochino wrote:
 
ROFLMAOOO AT bear. Some guys have it and some don't.:p
I just picked up(got her CELL ###) 22 old hot Mex-American thin cute BABE working at the local grocery store(Stater Brothers) i have seen her before,i just decided to talk to her,the line was short so i had the time. Its looking good for this weekend}
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ttboy MUST OF COPIED ME. I told you already that i am Mexican-American, i have no idea who TTBOY IS. I also can't get in to TJA.
 
What side did he get mugged at? I notice on the side were the Mariachi's hangout,you go pass them ,near the Taco vendor there are thug like dudes,they seem to be drealing drugs. I was at the taco stand and notice that.
How many guys attacked him?
Im always with someone when i go by there.
 
I think CULERO would make a good U.S. Custom Border Protection agent at the border crossing. He could then tell us how all the chicas crossing into the U.S. to go chopping would want to be in the line that he's working, because he's so damn good looking and looks so young (38, but looks 28). Then he can give all the gringos shit about going into Mexico and fucking his Mexicanitas, that they really don't want to be with us, that we stand no chance of hooking up with a Mexican girl, blah, blah, blah...... What a dick, but I do get a laugh out of his posts.
 
I see lot of gang bangers hanging around La Tropa and the surrounding area. So only the "Southsiders" Mexicans from the states are causing all the problems? What are all the local gang members, and different gangs from Tijuana?

But back to the theme of this thread, Bullshit on Art 123. Here is another recent post I found on another site, that as much as I try I simply have a hard time believing. You think I'm being too harsh, or is it too much to ask for guys to post accurate information?

The problems I see with this post, is trannies usually just aren't as brazen to just walk up to a guy and stick there hands in someone's pocket and steal their wallet. Many trannies are equivalent to professional or semi-pro pick-pockets; they use non-violent confrontation, different from muggers to get your money. They are opportunist looking for someone who left them open to getting their wallet lifted. They will try to get you off balanced to divert your attention, or get distracted, like rubbing up against you, while lifting your wallet or money with the other hand.

READ THE STORY:
 
Burt wrote:

Burt you should know me by now I read mostly everything and I remember a whole lot of useless information and I'm telling you most of those reports don't pass muster, and are not first hand reports that happened to them. Even these highly respected mongers, have been known embellish a story for dramatic effect, and I'm not just talking about ART 123. For example one minute they are all for safe sex, the next for sin-condom sex, so I'm starting to think, are they writing fiction or what?

. Ben, I don't ever remember him getting mugged on ART 123, as I would have laughed my ass off. I only remember him talking about getting that nasty fried but good tasting chicken on that street,

And this thread I'm only talking about Art 123 right now. My personal feelings are Tijuana where the mongers go especially the zona, is safe around AB, CC, Constitution, Revo and Nenos Heroes, and even ART 123. Once you get out of those areas it gets more dangerous, mainly because some of those areas isolated with rateros hanging around.

So again I'm only talking about ART 123 and it's real danger level, and what are you comparing it too. I'm only going back a few years. I want to know if it's dangerous today, because it's a lot different then in the past.

And we are going to talk about techniques you can use to fight off choke holds, and maybe discuss when it's better to just hand over your wallet in my next segment.
 
Good investigation Fireballs ! no one can bullshit you consistently and get away. Well about this Culero, as Sampson says he just puts all self centered postly, which is now amusing to me. Initially I got offended but since have ignored, ghosh we have all sort of posters, the more the merrier :rolleyes:
 
Burt you must be getting your stories from TJA? Like I said 90% of those out stories don't pass the muster if you look at them closely, they are not timely, they lack emotion, and the tough guy report lack believability. Even your tough guy small Asian dude who says he has been on the receiving end of these attacks and helps out others fend off attacks, says some of these stories where a guy fights off three guys is made up, because the gangsters have the surprise advaneforum.xxxe on you, and he himself contradicts himself, saying they happen all over Mexico in 2003 and then says in 2007 they only happen on ART 123.

As I said before I always believed the reports on the grab and run, if you have something valuable sticking out, someone may come from behind and take it.

I'm not going to look at all your stories /dates, frankly it's too hard to search them, but I did look at a few and can already disregards reports on comments, that's not a crime, nor is being followed.

The post on 11/3 didn't say where the crime took place, and the guy starts naming all kinds of streets where it's dangerous in Tijuana, including the SG alley on the north end....I disagree with him, I don't find the alley in the zona dangerous at all, no more then others streets in America.

The report on 12/8 said he was robbed outside of Manhattan club, west of Neno Heroes, the same street as AB, to the far west. I agree as you go west it's gets a little more dangerous, but again the robbery didn't take place on ART 123.

I guess tomorrow I'll write about some helpful tips to fight off these chokeholds if they every to happen to you, but from these stories it looks like you'll only be most likely to be a witness to a choke hold or someone will tell you it happened to them, because rarely do we get first hand reports that it actually happens to someone personally, on ART 123?
 
Yeah, they live in that hotel above the Michoacana.....I've never seen any gang bangers in that alley with the exception of the Southsiders when they go to the store or to one of the restaurants, etc.
 
The one guy I know is a Tuff guy, body builder type, and he was really caught off guard....I think it is less frequent now, but eveyone should always realize " We are not in Kansas, anymore Toto".
 
Guys have been posting about being mugged on Articulo 123 for years. Nor is this the first time a lot these incidents have been reported.

I donโ€™t have time for a research project, but a quick search of the early TJA posts produced the following about muggings on Articulo 123:

12/08/03: Report of being mugged

12/29/03: Witness to a choke hold mugging

12/29/03: Comment that these muggings were more common a couple of years ago

12/30/03: Comment about the long history of Rateros using choke holds

12/30/03: Post about intervening in a mugging

01/23/04: Post about attempted mugging

01/29/04: Post about a grab and run theft

08/17/04: Report of attempted mugging

11/03/04: Report of two mugging attempts the same weekend

02/09/05: Report of witnessing a choke hold mugging attempt

02/23/05: Report of an attempted mugging

03/16/05: Report of an attempted mugging

03/17/05: Report of being followed in what appeared to be a mugging attempt

3/19/05: Report of witnessing two muggings (by choke hold)

03/21/05: Report of two unsuccessful mugging attempts

3/31/05: โ€œYou warned me to stay off of Articulo 123 -- looks like you were rightโ€

04/18/05: Report of two groups of muggers using choke holds

05/24/05: Robbery report

5/24/05: Report of witnessing three muggings

08/23/05: Report of being followed in what appeared to be a mugging attempt
 
I think most don't take Culero very seriously. He is just looking for reactions with stupid posts like she only dfk's with me and she tells me she loves me, but doesn't mean it when she tells you.

Anyway I suppose he adds value here....just trying to figure out which post has the value.:confused:
 
I found my self in TJ again yesterday, I have to quit that shit, I been going too much lately. But I had the taxi driver drop me off at ART 123 and REVO early evening, there were around 50 mariachi singers standing around on the far east end. They also had a small concert right there, tons of people, on the street it was packed with people, hard to walk by, outside and inside the bars were packed. In the street it was one car right after the other making it hard to cross the street.

And I said to myself, I'm suppose to be scared when I'm on this street of 'choke holds' they got to be kidding?

Later I walked other streets, with gang bangers, rateros, and bums in quiet isolation....all more dangerous then ART 123.

During my walk I found a hot chica walking on ART 123 and Nenos Heroes looking for action, she wasn't an SG. I asked her, and she said $30 dollars, but she wanted me to pay for a cab and go to her place, and she would show me a very good time with no clock. I thought about it for a minute, and said forget it. I don't go to places I don't know, even if a hot chicas tell me too. She could have had her boyfriend, and his friends waiting for me to rob me and leave me for dead.......it's just not worth it.

Now some guys there hear about all these supposedly from behind choke hold robberies, and start talking about what they should about it? They come up with ideas of making complaints to local government, and the higher ups in the TJ police department. In other words they as foreign citizens want to tell the city of Tijuana how to do their job, and they talk about how they hate Mexicans in the US marching in the street protesting. Well it's just talk because nobody actually does anything, complaining to the police about a crime is just about as good as complaining to the police in the US, they take a report and nothing gets done.

My next topic in this thread is how would you deal with a choke hold if it actually happened to you? What would you guys do? Fight back, or just pass out hoping to wake up again later, minus a wallet, maybe file a police report, maybe come to a site like this and tell your story, but change a little details, like you didn't piss in your pants, but turned the tables on those gang-bangers......So what would you do?
 
Is there gangbangers always at the corner of Coahuila and Constitution ? I never noticed gangbangers hanging out in groups there. I see them walking around the callejon etc.
 
Since this tread is about bullshit, I thought I"d post this here.

It has been brought to my attention that both CULERO from this site, and Ttboy from TJA both have the exact same quote below on their respected sites?

The question is why? Both are night and day different from each other. Culero is the Mexican-American stud, is 38 but looks 28, but all the chicas love him, and all mongers are jealous of him.

Ttboy on the other hand is suppose to be this gringo guy who been on the board of many years, who is sort of anti-Mexico, 95% of his posts put down Mexico, as a violent dangerous 3rd world country. Every chance he gets he is bashing Mexico or Mexicans, and rarely talks about mongering, except to say he likes fucking brown skinned girls.

So what gives? How can two guys who are so different on the sex forums, think a like and make the exact same post? ( it looks like Culero made the first post, so did Ttboy copy Culero, or are these guys the same people?)



Ttboy wrote Hard times for chicas in the Zona
Many chicas are struggling to make it now. Few clients go to TJ the few that do ,don't spend the dinero.

What kind of stories have you heard from the chicas ?


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Culero wrote Hard times for chicas in the Zona
Many chicas are struggling to make it now. Few clients go to TJ the few that do ,don't spend the dinero.

What kind of stories have you heard from the chicas ?
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  31. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Apple, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday May 14, 2025, our attendants will be Carla โค, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Yoyo ๐Ÿฅณ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  33. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  35. Spa in Markham:
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  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปvery popular girl,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY (12pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Sophia with curve body 30โ€™s and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SONIA, PRIYA, AMANDA, PAOLA, PREETI, KIRAN, ANGELINA, MONIKA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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