Current pricing

BTW, the Big 3 FS micros have already upped their rates to the $320+ range for the hour for anyone sub30. The older ladies can still be found <$300.
I haven't really noticed the uppage for FS micros, but I also don't really pay too close attention to the whole age thing: I'm more interested in keeping tabs on overall pricing. Plus age isn't always shown on their ads/sites. I've looked at all the micro websites recently as well and most of the pricing is still sub $300 (range is usually $240-$280). Not saying that you're wrong since you've also done your homework, but my own research hasn't indicated the uppage yet. I've seen the rare >$300 from time to time though, but that could be for a whole variety of things besides age.

But since you mentioned it, I'm gonna keep a closer eye on it.
 
Whole industry is moving upwards unfortunately.
 
hold your DICK for 2 weeks y all regulars , all this greed would come down , as customer you control the market , not the other way round
if for 3 weeks they go home with very fewer customers they knw in real time ,,

Good luck
 
hold your DICK for 2 weeks y all regulars , all this greed would come down , as customer you control the market , not the other way round
if for 3 weeks they go home with very fewer customers they knw in real time ,,

Good luck
I split my time between Edmonton and Toronto, it is much easier to find good rates in Toronto because competition among girls is fierce. From my place in downtown Toronto, it is just a short walk to Chinatown where there is an abundance of low cost providers; literally like 10 shops within a two block radious where an hour of massage+FS is well below $200 still. Completely different story here in Edmonton, there are only a handful of reputable establishments sprinkled around the city. Each establishment (including the micros) only have one or two quality girls servicing a city full of horny men, those quality girls get booked solid. Supply and demand, no reason not to raise prices when they are always fully booked. I have gotten used to paying 50% more here in Edmonton as compared to Toronto already.
 
I split my time between Edmonton and Toronto, it is much easier to find good rates in Toronto because competition among girls is fierce. From my place in downtown Toronto, it is just a short walk to Chinatown where there is an abundance of low cost providers; literally like 10 shops within a two block radious where an hour of massage+FS is well below $200 still. Completely different story here in Edmonton, there are only a handful of reputable establishments sprinkled around the city. Each establishment (including the micros) only have one or two quality girls servicing a city full of horny men, those quality girls get booked solid. Supply and demand, no reason not to raise prices when they are always fully booked. I have gotten used to paying 50% more here in Edmonton as compared to Toronto already.
What happens when the girls are not busy .. they start texting to regulars โ€ฆ itโ€™s a crazy run I agree .. if men start thinking with their heads and not dickheads .. you can control the prices in a town like Edmonton OR you wait till the supply. Becomes adequate or more as a lot of SW are moving to Edmonton from Toronto ..
 
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I am quoting the hourly price, here is Vassy at SBB for $320: Central | sweetbb-net
Ah I see what you mean now. I have noticed that some of the micros have become comfortable charging >$300 for some of the girls they bring in, which is kinda interesting considering their main competitive advantage is the lower rates with relatively good service.

In regards to the overall commentary of the rates going up from others, I do definitely agree and have seen this in my own research as well from some providers/establishments. I'm not against price increases since that's just not how the market works, but I'm against unreasonable price increases. What is considered unreasonable is hard to say, but I think a good indicator is if they are losing more money keeping higher rates with fewer clients vs the lower rates with more clients. Of course there are those exceptions where someone is in such high demand that people will still see them regardless, but I would not consider it the norm: this especially holds true if their clientele is less price sensitive considering either their higher disposable income or are reckless spenders.

For me personally, I don't see anyone charging more than $300/hr since that's roughly where the average hourly rate is at right now in the city for FS.
 
If you eat at MacDonalds all the time then suddenly try a 5 star restaurent , you will pay more.
To me Vassy looks like she is worth more than some 35 year old grumpy looking bacon and egger thats been sitting all day in the warming tray.
Some of you know that I have tasted caviar on many occasions and didn't blink at the cheque's. Everything was priced accordingly.
Then you get the bacon and egger that thinks she's a happy meal but wants you to pay for abig whopper.
Tsk tsk tsk, know the value. Even if it looks good sometimes you get disappointed.
I have a regular that to many would say it's great but the presentation isn't as good. To each their own. I give her more because of how much effort she puts in to make me feel like it was a good dinning experience. You don't have to eat there . Yes I am using a fast food chain to compare these places we frequent because they are very simular.

I gotta throw this in. My brother was with his wife during the birth of their son. After that he was talking to my other brother and I about it. He was somewhat disgusted with what he had witnessed . My other brother said it's like this. Watching what happens to yoyr wife's honey pot during birth is like watching your favorite restaurant burn down , you know you won't be eating there again.
 
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If you eat at MacDonalds all the time then suddenly try a 5 star restaurent you will pay more. To me Vassy looks like she is worth more than some 35 year old grumpy looking bacon and egger. I have tasted caviar on many occasions and didn't blink at the cheque's.
Hoeflation has hit the Asians harder than anywhere else and youโ€™re a case example of why, that chick is not caviar. Not really massage but 2 years back I got a 5โ€™0 quebecois Lebanese girl early 20s, tighter than a steel trap: $120

Couple months later I walked into aristocrat and was met by an anorexic Asian sex slave looking like sheโ€™s on pills with a cold sore on her lip that wouldnโ€™t get on her back for less than 200. Gave her 50 bucks for a quick stroke and havenโ€™t been back to a spa since.
 
As I said she is a regular. She doesn't "charge" what I pay her . She has her flat rate and it is on par with where she works and what she provides.

What I pay her is between her and I but she does things for me she will not do for everyone else. I am not what causes prices to go up. You seem to be looking at anyone to blame for this other than the establishment owners. If its getting too costly for you stop going there. Or get a job at Timmies on the side to afford those higher end services. When I go to MacDonalds I pay the same price as you do. If their prices go up it's not because I will pay more. I don't have to go there if it's out if my price range. If they throw in extra things in my order I am leaving a tip . It doesn't mean they are bringing up the price.
 
There are many reasons why prices go up, but what it comes down to is simply supply and demand. Clients overall, typically want to pay the least amount as possible when they see a provider, while providers overall want to charge as much as possible when they choose to see a client. Generally that's how I see it and the constant push and pull between these two parties is what dictates the market. Yes it's a bit more complex than that when you look at the market more closely like the segments of the markets (Asian Micros, vs 'premium/high end') that both parties engage in. Directly, only clients and provider's engaging in their relative segments of the market have a stronger impact on the dynamics of how it operates: indirectly though, you could make the argument that different segments of the market can influence each other.

As a client, I do accept responsibility for my impact on the pricing of the segment of the market I participate in, but I don't think it would be entirely fair to get the finger pointed at me since I'm just one out of the many clients who also participate in that segment. I think Mebad23 brings up a good point to not try to antagonize fellow clients for their impacts on rates: people will inherently do what is within their best interest at the end of the day. At the end of the day, we all make our own choices. If I'm priced out of the asian micro, for example, I can make choices to either make more income, find other cheaper substitutes/alternatives, go less often, or leave the hobby entirely: it's much easier to make your own choices than try and the entire 'client' base to behave the way they want it to.
 
Have any of you just flat out said no? Too much . I will not pay that much. These women know exactly when to pop that one on you. Do they ever tell you before the massage begins? My guess no. Maybe just flat put start the process ahead of time. If you don't like the price and she won't budge put your clothes on or don't take them off until you hear the price. If they think you will walk ,maybe they will be more open for negotiation. I am a contractor and I have raised my day rates . My clients don't like it but they have not lowered their own prices and do not like my Incease. They have the option of not doing business with me.
 
Again I know this is a massage forum but Iโ€™ve seen time and time again where legitimate 8s and and above from out of town are charging less than what some legitimately beat up broads are charging. Theyโ€™re probably charging higher than their regular rates and still canโ€™t get in their head how bad the market is here. It ainโ€™t appreciation for caviar sending the prices upโ€ฆ.
 
What validates their price hikes are those clients who let their little head do their thinking. Instead of complaining about it , tell them no not at that price, mean it , stand your ground or walk out. Personally I have not experienced what you say is a price hike. I have declined extras on occasion especially if I felt that it was not worth my money. I declined Iron fist twice it got so that if she tried to pull a b and s. I just flat out said no I will wait for the one I have an appointment with.

I have recently stopped doing business with someone you all think is a beauty queen. Her service was getting less and less and her prices were not reflecting the drop . Her excuses were getting to me. Her service started off great and then it became a ymmv after the fact.
Fk that if any of you guys want to keep letting that shit happen women like that WILL keep trying to fk you monetarily. Instead of bitching and whinning about it make the change be the change. Instead of blaming other people take it upon yourself to pull your fucken head out of your own ass and tell them to fuck off.
 
Ditto. Over the years Iโ€™ve been lucky to see most of the all stars before they were all stars. The shine seems to go off them once the get fame and fortune. Have a couple now I am selfish with and I keep my hat on tight. There are deals out there for sure and with repeat visits and by being a gentleman there are substantial savings at times.
 
Lmao! Guys are so dumb.
 
If it's not you, then why is it from a cell phone message from a few minutes before you posted it? LOL!
There isn't a date on it. You are also on the Edmonton forum, so that time is an hour in the future for us still. Also the screen shot is from the screen of the provider, not the client. So if it was him and it was today, it would mean he is a male gigolo from the future.
 
There isn't a date on it. You are also on the Edmonton forum, so that time is an hour in the future for us still. Also the screen shot is from the screen of the provider, not the client. So if it was him and it was today, it would mean he is a male gigolo from the future.
And perhaps he is! Or perhaps the fact that he actually is ALSO from Toronto makes the time zone thing less significant.

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Why the fuck can't you dorks stay on your own forum? We have Toronto tards commenting on our shit all the time. How fucking stupid are you? I am going to go to the Toronto board and start posting stupid ass shit too.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  30. Spa in Markham:
    โšœ๏ธ Golden Flower Spa (Unionville) ๐Ÿ“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Unionville, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ’‹ Hot bodies โ€“ skilled hands โ€“ elite service ๐Ÿ”ฅ Classy, seductive & fully satisfying ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  31. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
    ๐Ÿ BlueXado Spa (Vaughan) ๐Ÿ“ 1102 Centre St, Unit 6, Vaughan, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ’ฆ Clothes off โ€“ mind off โ€“ just relax ๐ŸŒ€ Young beauties, deep care, unique vibe ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  32. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    ๐Ÿฆฉ Pink Flower Spa (Scarborough) ๐Ÿ“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8, Scarborough, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ’— Sweet, gentle, feminine touch you'll love ๐ŸŒธ Soft hands, beautiful smiles, total care ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  33. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธMelissa๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธMonika Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐Ÿ”ฅReady for a fantastic time?๐Ÿ”ฅ Today (Saturday), our amazing attendants are Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Ivy ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทBella 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธAnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AMMU, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, JOEY, BELA, MIMI, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Sara, Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  45. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  46. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here .New spanish tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny miya,angel and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 call and text quentions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind, young flirty Yoyo with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and nice GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Elena Vietnamese girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
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