Daty With An MPA!

Ya know...

I have a headache today and really don't want to get into it, but your reasoning is so ridiculous I can't help myself.

(a) Ya ever think that maybe, just maybe, working girls who overcharge you are nicer to you (which you interpret as them being "happy people") because they want you come back and overpay again?

(b) So money=happiness? Maybe for 2.5min. In my experience, some of the happiest and most fulfilled individuals have a two figure bank account while those who are good for 10's-of-millions are miserable.

(c) I personally have a reputation in my line work to be the most expensive out there. Heck, most would say I overcharge Yeah, I'm good, and the market knows it. And sure, I'm all about you get what you pay for. While I treat my clients like gold, the smart ones know that the charming smile and D&G suit I show up in is on their dollar - but their wise to it! And certainly they don't retain me b/c I'm "happy". Fuck, I'm the most miserable rich bastard you'd ever meet!

(e) Do you think those that overcharge have a permanent ceiling on their price point? What happens when your $450/hr isn't quite cutting it against someone even more silly who will go in for $600/hr. Is she still going to be as "happy" to see your 75% ass? Cause that'll be your name at that point; "75%".

I could go on and on, but I've got a headache...

kkarn/
 
how about the lady down the street? There are lots of non-pros out there who engage in risky behavior. Violet is right about ladies that you meet in bars and take home. After a few rounds, people do things without thinking. I find that most MP's and Sp's are more aware of associated risks and take more precautions.

I'm still laughing about Schmengie's comments about pay for play. We all pay in the end. It's like laughing at the guy who buys a treadmill when he could just go outside and walk. Why rent porn if you can just bang your girlfriend? If I go see a MP or SP, its because I want to. I don't have to worry about any head games, or nagging, or anything else that might bother me. I'm there to fulfill a fantasy. After it's over, we go our separate ways. Luckily for Schmengie, we live in a free world and he's not forced to pay for it.
 
was just a little condescending. Good thing that I'm not as judgemental as she is. I wonder what I could say in return? But I won't, because I came to this site to become informed about this hobby, rather than insult people.
 
My thread on the subject captioned above, has really become a 5-star Thread which is in
Massage Palour Section
Guys keep giving your valuble view on this delicate matter. My hearty tks to all who have given their views, as well as those who read it. Safety is more important than feeling sorry when you suffer any unknown desease.
 
yup and some guys pay to get bossed around,slaped with whips,get treated like a dog. the point is people have diffrent tastes and fetishes and they are not forcing any one to do it . so if thats your fantasy and and someone is willing to fullfill your fantasy for a fee then there is nothing wrong with it and both parties come out of it with what they wanted.

"water comes out of the tap for free,so why buy bottled water, because we want too, me i don"t drink water from the tap because fish fuck in it"
 
I love a good open-debate. I'm sorry your headache debilitated you so badly, and I invite you to reopen this when you're feeling up-to-snuff! Of course, I can't imagine you would, because if you were thinking clearly you would never have begun this dialogue?


No, because I have never been overcharged. I was always asked for the rate which they advertized, and paid it. If they were particularily worthwhile, I'd generally include a gratuity, because in my view, currency is the sincerest form of flattery.

But presuming what you mean to say is "Do I think that SPs who charge what they feel they are worth, and receive it, are nicer people?" then the answer is yes, as I had stated previously.



Your headache must have prompted this logical-disconnect (you are arguing from a minor-to-major premise).
I never suggested anything of the sort, and concur completely that many of the happiest people I know are chronically short-on-funds, whereas most of the least-content people have more money than I could spend.

Money cannot make someone happy - it's not even a motivator in most cases. But it sure can make being miserable a lot easier to bear!

What I was suggesting and stand-by is that people who FEEL RESPECTED and feel self-respect because they believe they are being valued for their work ARE HAPPIER PEOPLE. Quod erat demonstrandum.


Similarly, in my line I am far-and-away the most expensive option. I pride myself on being worth it - and my overwhelmingly high repeat business proves it. I won't take on a client unless I believe they will generate at least a tenfold-increase in profit or savings over my consulting fees, and word-of-mouth is the ONLY advertising for me, period.

I'm sorry you're a miserable bastard. I imagine that the source of your dissatisfaction in life may be because you have a hate-on for people, and your cynicism precludes you actually enjoying the company of women?

** Note: I did not omit kkarn's point D, he appears to have miscounted, and moved from C to E directly.


I recommend reading Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" written in 1776, which is a seminal treatise on the concept of 'laissez faire' economics. In this work he details a notion called 'The Invisible Hand' which describes the self-regulating nature of pricing - things which are inappropriate cannot maintain themselves in a free market.

Naturally, if an SP recognized that her time has become worth $600 per hour, she would decide (as hairstylists do) if she valued a long-standing customer's business enough to accept her previous-rate in exchange for the comfort of knowing she was sure to have a satisfying encounter.

After you have read (and hopefully understood) Smith's book, feel free to reopen the subject with me? We don't need to bore everyone else with this self-evident topic, so you should just PM me at that point.


Hope that clear up soon! And good luck with the 'miserable bastard' part too!

Philski
 
Calling your own thread a "five star thread" is really kind of lame. It's like giving yourself a cool nickname like "T-Bone."
 
The only safe sex is sitting home by yourself jerking off to porn.

Therefore, this hobby is about risk management.

Clients have to take responsibility for their OWN health and decide which activities they wish to engage in.

Personally I prefer Russian and Digits to DATY.

Italian's getting closer to unprotected genital/genital contact but I'll live with that risk now and again...

With DATY you MUST assume that if an MPA sees 6 clients in a shift MOST are getting it. As any hobbyist knows "I only do this with you" is total bullshit.

If you're REALLY lucky the MPA will reserve DATY for repeat clients which cuts down the risk a bit, but it's still not "safe"...
 
The more you know, the more you grow. Cue the shining stars and NBC PSA music.

This PSA was brought to you by those who believe in safe bodysliding.
 
I'll play just a lil' bit'

Captain of the Debating team writes...



Shall I resolve than that in your world the advertised price is by default never overpriced [because it was advertised]? You need not "presume" what I meant, it was quite clear; if the market sells widgets for $3-$5 depending on quality and you pay $8, you've overpaid [regardless what the advertised price is]. I think you're suffering from cognitive dissonance. The good news is, there is medication for that which you can find at -
www.sexyvioletsmeds.com

I'm placing an order right now for some Zoloft to help me out with this Miserable Bastard ailment i've got going on.
 
Agreed. Nothing more unattractive than giving yourself props.

PS For some reason your sig. line pic reminds me of that scene in Juice where that guy holds up a bar and asks everyone to get naked.
 
heehee, that's cute - who knew I ran a use car dealership and now a pharmacy! Sexy Violet will take over the world - one industry at a time!

p.s. good luck with the Zoloft, I'm sorry it was overpriced
(seriously though, no hard feelings :-D)
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday June 3, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Jenny, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  42. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  45. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  48. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
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