Chat Derek Chauvin Guilty! Fuck yes!

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I don't have an opinion as to whether it was a correct judgment or not. But I have questions.

I didn't follow the trial, but what little I gleaned from different sources made me wonder how a 2nd degree conviction (intent to kill), could be an outcome. Coverage of the trial, the bits I read, were all one- sided and you'd have to have tried hard to learn anything but the "CHAUVIN GUILTY AS HELL" angle of the media. From what I understand, the judge was pretty hard on the defense.

On a side note, for those who have been so vehement in maintaining that Trump committed a crime when he told people to "fight for their government", what do you make of Waters' statements asking for more confrontation if judgment had gone the other way? For the record, I don't think Trump was responsible for the attack on the Capitol and I don't think Waters broke any laws either, but I expect many here to play both sides, damning Trump for inciting violence but claiming Waters would have had no responsibility for what would have happened if a "not guilty" had come back.
 
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There was an argument held in court in front of 12 jurors...did you miss that?

Nope, I saw it. I also saw that a defence witness had his house vandalized with a pig’s head and smeared with blood. Too bad the vandals are idiots and didn’t know he doesn’t live there anymore.


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I don't have an opinion as to whether it was a correct judgment or not. But I have questions.

I didn't follow the trial, but what little I gleaned from different sources made me wonder how a 2nd degree conviction (intent to kill), could be an outcome. Coverage of the trial, the bits I read, were all one- sided and you'd have to have tried hard to learn anything but the "CHAUVING GUILTY AS HELL" angle of the media. From what I understand, the judge was pretty hard on the defense.

On a side note, for those who have been so vehement in maintaining that Trump committed a crime when he told people to "fight for their government", what to you make of Waters statements asking for more confrontation if judgment had gone the other way? For the record, I don't think Trump was responsible for the attack on the Capitol and I don't think Waters broke any laws either, but I expect many here play both sides, damning Trump for inciting violence but claiming Waters would have had no responsibility for what would have happened if a "not guilty" had come back.

The judge was also hard on the Prosecution. There was a moment when there some new evidence come up late in the game that they tried to introduce. Sidebar discussion was held. The judge gave a very narrow set of rules about what they could ask the Pulmonoligist in a rebuttal. If the Prosecution or the witness strayed the judge told everyone point blank that he would declare a mistrial. Overall, the judge managed the case very well.

During the closing arguments, it was laid out nicely for the jury what conditions hard to be met for 2nd degree murder in a slide: George Floyd died and that could be proven, Chauvin committed a felony crime (assaulted Floyd) without intent (intent is 1st degree murder), that felony crime (assault) was a major contributing factor (not the sole or only factor) in George Floyd’s death.

Maxine Waters should have kept her mouth shut and let the legal system play out
 
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The judge was also hard on the Prosecution. There was a moment when there some new evidence come up late in the game that they tried to introduce. Sidebar discussion was held. The judge gave a very narrow set of rules about what they could ask the Pulmonoligist in a rebuttal. If the Prosecution or the witness strayed the judge told everyone point blank that he would have declared a mistrial. Overall, the judge managed the case very well.

During the closing arguments, it was laid out nicely for the jury what conditions hard to be met for 2nd degree murder in a slide: George Floyd died and that could be proven, Chauvin committed a felony crime (assaulted Floyd) without intent, that felony crime (assault) was a major contributing factor (not the sole or only factor) in George Floyd’s death).

Maxine Waters should have kept her mouth shut and let the legal system play out

I agree, the judge did a good job. I’d hate to be in his position.


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The judge was also hard on the Prosecution.

Like I said, I don't know enough about it to argue, but he denied the change of venue request and he denied the request to sequester the jury. The jury was on social media the entire time seeing everyone from the President on down saying Chauvin was guilty. How are they supposed to make an impartial decision in that environment?

For those interested in the truth, why did the Prosecution not call the person who was in the car with Floyd? Answer: Because it was his drug dealer who had given Floyd the drugs which may actually have been responsible for his death.

I'm curious...for those of you who watched the trial...did they at any point show the video of Floyd saying "I can't breathe" while he was in the car and long before Chauvin placed a knee on him? When I saw that, I thought for sure that would go a ways towards establishing reasonable doubt.
 
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LOL... Normally I never get involve in political or racial arguments but this one with video evidence was too obvious that made me thinking how can a person be so heartless to put his knee on the neck of another person for over 9 minutes when they can just easily cuffed him up and put him in the back of the car. It tells me clearly the intent of killing, hatred and abusing power.

The video below I saw on the news today a big OPP officer pushed down a 70 lbs 12 yrs old young boy to the ground some where in Peel region bothered me a lot too. Why can't he just talk to the boy and educate him about social distancing? They were just kids having fun.

 
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Maxine Waters should have kept her mouth shut and let the legal system play out

Yes, but humour me. If there had been a not guilty verdict, would IN YOUR VIEW, Waters have been guilty of inciting violence?
 
You know that Floyd asked to be taken out of the car right?
It doesn't matter Floyd asked or not, they are trained police officers, they have to do what was the right thing to do.
 
It doesn't matter Floyd asked or not, they are trained police officers, they have to do what is the right thing to do.
I see. So if he'd died in the car shouting, "I can't breathe", you would have been totally in support of the cops' actions?
 
You know that Floyd asked to be taken out of the car right?

Unfortunately, things are so far gone. The media’s power to influence has never been this strong. People don’t know the simplest facts about the case.


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Like I said, I don't know enough about it to argue, but he denied the change of venue request and he denied the request to sequester the jury. The jury was on social media the entire time seeing everyone from the President on down saying Chauvin was guilty. How are they supposed to make an impartial decision in that environment?

For those interested in the truth, why did the Prosecution not call the person who was in the car with Floyd? Answer: Because it was his drug dealer who had given Floyd the drugs which may actually have been responsible for his death.

I'm curious...for those of you who watched the trial...did they at any point show the video of Floyd saying "I can't breathe" while he was in the car and long before Chauvin placed a knee on him? When I saw that, I thought for sure that would go a ways towards establishing reasonable doubt.
The judge instructed everyone to not watch media on the case and only reference the evidence in the case. This was at the outset. They all took an oath to do that. They were sequestered as they deliberated to come to a verdict but not before.

There was video of him in his car. There was body cam video of a cop pointing his gun at Floyd and Floyd with his hands up scared asking what he did as he was getting out of the car. There was also video of him handcuffed sitting on the sidewalk against the wall complying with the cops. Fore going into the backseat where he said he was claustrophobic at which point things went south.

There was so much new video and evidence in the case vs the snippets in the media before the trial started. What was in the media before the trial was merely a very small percentage of the total evidence with videos from multiple angles, eye witnesses and expert witnesses, etc.

The prosecution brought in an expert pulmonologist (an elder Irish gentleman) that was a superstar in how he explained how Floyd couldn’t breath. Then they brought in ER doctors, Medical Examiner, etc. and they all ruled out the defences claims of drug use, High blood pressure, etc. The burden of proof is with the prosecution and they were almost flawless in their execution. They fumbled on that late piece of evidence though.
 
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I see. So if he'd died in the car shouting, "I can't breathe", you would have been totally in support of the cops' actions?
Don't be so childish. Have you ever seen a police car with no air condition and did you notice the car was running.
 
I find it interesting that everyone is so happy about this controversial outcome but no one has anything to say about the cop who shot Ashli Babbitt.


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