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I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
On another note, during opening hours for em, the door was locked. I am thinking , okay, receptionist is on bathroom break. Then saw Michelle pop out of a room and opened the door. She asked if I had an appt, I said no and she said sorry, am busy right now. I was never a regular for her but she was wearing knee high boots, mini and a loose pullover.
This was not too long ago and I was under the impression she did not do massage any longer. Like I said, I was never a Michelle type of guy but I have to say, that day she looked pretty hot. Is she doing massage for only special clients now?
Sounds like fetish-cosplay stuffโ€ฆ Renee does that 2โ€ฆ seen her all decked out in leather once
:sm

As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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I have to agree with you about these particular places. Those two owner's attitude and manners changed over the years.
My buddies also expressed same like these comments to me.
I was a regular customer for E&M years ( from the day they started). I am giving tips also in a good manner. I had a bad taste in my tongue, from last year, so that I stopped going over there. There is no shortage of places here in the GTA.
For KJ's support and bump higher most places due to other reasons. Selling his stuff and other things. That's nothing do with me. I am not against or for him.
Also the fking side effects of Covid , totally changed the people's state of mind. I think the service level went down so many places progressively.


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If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...

It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make
 
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make

I was more so commenting on OG's post on that particular spa.

Disorganization at any AMP is typically par for the course when the boss is not in.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚


As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.

Not a big deal to me but to each their own. There's a room at the back right across from the shower. If you know you're gonna take a shower, just request that room...
 
I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.


I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.

I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

$140 is price point I have been hearing about.

I think it's just making bank because guys are willing to pay right now.
 
Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...

Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.
 
For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

Exactly.

and that goes for a youngish average at best girls as well.

they have been notorious for asking for more now.

Guys would be better off paying that price in a premium.
 
Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

You're talking the highest level services at semi places which can be a bit of a gray area but I agree with the figure you quoted.

However, for basic services, I haven't experienced anything different compared to before.
 
If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
your right about expectations..
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
This talk isnโ€™t acceptable.
Not in the least. So far this discussion has been pretty well behaved and respectful. Why did you have to come out and say this bigoted, racist nonsense?

Actually I donโ€™t think anyone needs to hear the answer to that. Please remove yourself from this constructive conversation and go do something else with your time.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚
Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
Lol, just admit it... you're Renee's hubby.

Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Deep Tissue Lily, Fun Girl Apple, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  29. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนyoung friendly new CiCi, back walk,deep to relax,open mind,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ,bring you warm comfortable timeโค๏ธ๐ŸŽˆ
  30. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐Ÿ“Tiffany, ๐Ÿ‘ Vivian and ๐ŸŽ Cindy will be there waiting to ignite your every desire. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info. 302 Adelaide St. W. at the heart of Downtown Toronto!
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday May 21, 2025, our attendants will be Carla โค, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Yoyo ๐Ÿ’œ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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