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I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
On another note, during opening hours for em, the door was locked. I am thinking , okay, receptionist is on bathroom break. Then saw Michelle pop out of a room and opened the door. She asked if I had an appt, I said no and she said sorry, am busy right now. I was never a regular for her but she was wearing knee high boots, mini and a loose pullover.
This was not too long ago and I was under the impression she did not do massage any longer. Like I said, I was never a Michelle type of guy but I have to say, that day she looked pretty hot. Is she doing massage for only special clients now?
Sounds like fetish-cosplay stuffโ€ฆ Renee does that 2โ€ฆ seen her all decked out in leather once
:sm

As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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I have to agree with you about these particular places. Those two owner's attitude and manners changed over the years.
My buddies also expressed same like these comments to me.
I was a regular customer for E&M years ( from the day they started). I am giving tips also in a good manner. I had a bad taste in my tongue, from last year, so that I stopped going over there. There is no shortage of places here in the GTA.
For KJ's support and bump higher most places due to other reasons. Selling his stuff and other things. That's nothing do with me. I am not against or for him.
Also the fking side effects of Covid , totally changed the people's state of mind. I think the service level went down so many places progressively.


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If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...

It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make
 
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make

I was more so commenting on OG's post on that particular spa.

Disorganization at any AMP is typically par for the course when the boss is not in.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚


As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.

Not a big deal to me but to each their own. There's a room at the back right across from the shower. If you know you're gonna take a shower, just request that room...
 
I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.


I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.

I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

$140 is price point I have been hearing about.

I think it's just making bank because guys are willing to pay right now.
 
Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...

Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.
 
For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

Exactly.

and that goes for a youngish average at best girls as well.

they have been notorious for asking for more now.

Guys would be better off paying that price in a premium.
 
Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

You're talking the highest level services at semi places which can be a bit of a gray area but I agree with the figure you quoted.

However, for basic services, I haven't experienced anything different compared to before.
 
If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
your right about expectations..
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
This talk isnโ€™t acceptable.
Not in the least. So far this discussion has been pretty well behaved and respectful. Why did you have to come out and say this bigoted, racist nonsense?

Actually I donโ€™t think anyone needs to hear the answer to that. Please remove yourself from this constructive conversation and go do something else with your time.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚
Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
Lol, just admit it... you're Renee's hubby.

Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday May 19, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿค—, Mia ๐Ÿค—, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  29. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  30. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls Downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  31. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธMelissa๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  33. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FLOWER โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Markham ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong, 9PMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St, Vaughan ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  41. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  42. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young New Tight Korean Butt Yumi working with Sexy Young Sweet Summer and Sensual & Pleasing Busty Boobs Coco today. Call or text 647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธโœ…โœ…
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Molly 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young flirty Ivy with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and cute GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. LINA (12:30pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & HANA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. HANA is slim
  48. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, PAOLA, AMMU, MONIKA, ANNA, MEGAN, ANAYA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Yoyo and Mimi, both of them are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They work very hard and seriously. The deep massage and relaxation massage are very good!
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