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if you want a place to try 416-617-7999 tell Jessica your a friend of David and they will make you happy i have been going there or awhile lately been to many places
 
Part of the allure of the legit scene is that you may be surprised. Key word is may be. But if you go in there asking for something the first time - youโ€™ll most likely be shown the door. It is a delicate game of cat and mouse it seems. Thatโ€™s why if a legit girl asks for tips it is weird. Maybe she works at another place that is more liberal too and she is picking it up from there. Who knows. But I do know itโ€™s a buzz kill.

It very rarely happens at the fully legit spas. This is definitely more of a semi-legit thing. This convo isnโ€™t only about the tip situation though. The yelling, disorganization, rushing, basic lack of preparedness seems to be more widespread.

Another exampleโ€ฆ. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was โ€œWe are both new girls!โ€ I said ok, Iโ€™m looking for (description). They said โ€œno, but we are both NEW and come stay!โ€ It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didnโ€™t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
if the place is not clean i leave i do not carry who works there
 
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You are right. It is just sad that it is this way now because it didnโ€™t used to be. I do feel for the women and the fact they have been burned. And it angers me that cheap dinks have made this situation so. That being said, knowing itโ€™s a new girl, it still does kill the mood for me, even if I know itโ€™s coming. I donโ€™t think that will ever change. Being understanding of their situation and all, and them not knowing me and not willing to take that chanceโ€ฆ. I get it.

I just canโ€™t get it up after that.

I guess there will always be cheap asses who try to get more for less. Itโ€™s just upsetting it has happened so much that this is the result.
So why donโ€™t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?
 
So why donโ€™t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls


I touched on this but I know it is a lot to read. Many places I go are more legit than semi. Offering a legit girl a tip beforehand will signal I am expecting something more than massage. I prefer to let the chemistry dictate where the massage goes, and I feel that in that situation, it will come across as pushy and will hurt the session. It is a delicate game I guess. If it is a new girl I definitely give them a great tip, regardless of the outcome, so they do know that when I come back they don't have to worry. I just remember when you didnt need to worry about being asked all the time to tip big, even in legit settings.
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?

I will see a lady often if she is good. But sometimes I am looking for new talents as well.
 
I understand you , Itโ€™s a catch 22. But Iโ€™d rather pay first and to hell with expectations she may or may not think about. It is a troubling trend though.really is no answer but to not return to theses spas
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
agreed its a hard call plus it depend on what you want a massage or play time
 
i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
 
i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
my average booking day is 4 hours
 
if you want a place to try 416-617-7999 tell Jessica your a friend of David and they will make you happy i have been going there or awhile lately been to many places


Who/where is this?
 
Another exampleโ€ฆ. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was โ€œWe are both new girls!โ€ I said ok, Iโ€™m looking for (description). They said โ€œno, but we are both NEW and come stay!โ€ It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didnโ€™t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The cute girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is very nice and clean..

 
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C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is nice and clean..



I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead
 
I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead

If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
 
Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
 
Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
Small spas rarely have receptnโ€ฆ they have other advantagesโ€ฆ if no boss around, girls can b really fun! :heart4

โ€ฆ sneaky way 2c all girlsโ€ฆ dont let them rush u in2 rmโ€ฆ ask questions, start 2 leaveโ€ฆ boom, another face appears! They tend 2 take turns, or one girl (younger, prettier) gets all the bizโ€ฆ pickng less pretty girl gets u most mileage usually
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I understand 100%. What Iโ€™m saying is, even those places you listed, are changing. I didnโ€™t name any. Your list can be used as an example though. More than one of those Iโ€™ve experienced what I mentioned. Multiple times. Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m getting at.


even those places you listed, are changing

I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
 
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    new girl Cici works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธ Japanese girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  42. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE is a young slim Vietnamese girl with a beauty face, C Cup, 5'2" & 100 Lbs, student and model looks, vg at fs multiple positions, bbbj ymmv must be clean and respectful. LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a slim Chinese lady with a nice bust and narrow waist. Great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  44. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage,back walk, very friendly,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucy ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  46. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anjoo,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young cute sophia 30โ€™s slime, fun Vicky with curve body 25โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. romiogames0:
    Mumbai
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: HANNA, JENNY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. HANA is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls doing massage today. Kiki and Bella. They are short, young and pretty, with sweet smiles and good massage
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