I’m trying to be as respectful as possible, but you make it really hard. You make big, bold, dumb, factually wrong statements, and then act like you didn’t make them at all. Or you try to walk them back, change the subject, claim you’re misunderstood, or the other person is too stupid to understand you. Seems like you think the more you write, the more you are saying and the smarter you seem. And you just wrote paragraphs on Freedom of Speech and the Freedom Doctrine when you and I have never discussed either.
You obviously understand shit about Terms of Service. Because you’d understand they would be applied equally. They can’t claim they’re fair and balanced following their own rules, then ban someone permanently for something, but also allow hardcore porn, along with murders, beatings, and BLM, Antifa, and terrorists calling for violence. But your bias makes you think that it’s fair that Trump got kicked off. Ironically, you probably can’t even point to an individual tweet that would’ve led to that decision. You’re so obviously out of your depth, but you keep coming back for more. I guess, it’s an admirable quality.
With all the writing you’ve done, you still will not answer the question of double standards. Is that the manifestation of your own double standards?
You’re probably right about Trump not winning his case. Even if his case has legs, Google, Facebook, Twitter have enough money to keep it in the courts for decades. But if you’re going to comment on the case, you should learn what it’s all about. This is not solely a first amendment case. They are private companies and don’t have to follow the constitution. The lawsuit, at least against Twitter, alleges that Twitter is subject to constitutional requirements, such as the first amendment, because they have become a state actor. Also Twitter has increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. They can’t have it both ways.
For any dope that thinks it’s ok to remove the sitting president from social media platforms (one of the most effective ways to communicate with constituents) you’re a partisan hack, and haven’t thought it through. One day it will be your guy/girl.
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I don’t have to answer any “double standards” question simply because I’m not on any oversight committee over Twitter or Facebook to ensure they are applied consistently. Facebook had to actually create an independent committee to rule on Facebook’s actions to continue to ban or reinstate Trump. Should all companies adhere to their policies in all cases = yes. But how to you even know it’s a “double standard”? Have you read the terms of service in detail? How do you know the other tweets are violating those terms of service? Is there a difference between one tweet and banning or a repeated storm of tweets? Have you considered that Trump repeatedly violated the terms and conditions before Jan 6th and they let it go? Have a read
Twitter permanently banned the U.S. president Friday, taking a dramatic step to limit Trump's ability to communicate with his followers. That decision,
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And then do some more research in that Twitter made the decision (after many second chances before) after an “all-hands” meeting at Twitter including an employee outcry. This would mean there was a consistent application of the standards up until something else happened to force the ban. I wonder what that something else was? Oh yeh, January 6th happened and that was that something else. But more on that a little down the page. More importantly, why are you pulling out singular tweets to show me thinking I have any power over Twitter thinking I can just pick up the phone and tell them to delete? If you have a problem with a tweet, then get off your lazy ass a file a complaint to Twitter yourself because I’m not the Twitter police. Or form a movement and take it to the US Congress for some changes in the law. But stop crying like a little bitch because your guy lost fair and square but he’s too thin skinned to accept it. You throw out a bunch of “whataboutism” and get so sensitive when I don’t “automatically” agree with any of them. Well, get over it and grow up. Because, other than it affecting my investment portfolio by a tiny fraction of one percent, or I don’t see my contacts birthday notices,
I could care less if Twitter or Facebook disappeared forever because life will go on just like it did before they came into existence.
The first Amendment is about the government, as you allude to. But you are actually stating that it applies here because Twitter is now a
state actor? Exactly how are you going to prove that Twitter is being run by any state actor for that case to be valid, ecpecially when their ban was to ban the
Head of State? Now if by “state”, you mean the government putting pressure on Twitter to repeal Section 230 that the lawsuit suit have been filed against the government and not Twitter (which again was Trump’s own government up until January 20th and one where Trump himself threatened to repeal Section 230 himself, so I don’t get the argument that “hey, I’m suing Twitter because somebody else did what I also did but this time it was against me so now it’s wrong but when I did it for my own self interest that was ok”). Your tin foil hat might be too tight for your head due to head swelling.
Go back and read why they banned Trump. He repeatedly spread false lies about the election (nothing has been proven to be fraud, not even after months of recounting in Arizona), there was an insurrection attempt on Jan 6th to stop Biden’s certification (Pence had no constitutional power to stop the certification process)
and there was a real risk it would happen again. Let me make this clear, January 6th was an attempt to overthrow the US government by a mob of brainwashed Trump supporters fueled by Trump’s words (many of those charged have actually stated that Trump “told them” to go and storm the Capitol in their defence. Whether you think Trump did or did not is totally irrelevant because those that where actually charged with the crime actually did think just that and some even felt betrayed when Trump didn’t pardon them. These are the type of people who can be manipulated to do it again). It therefore could be argued that Twitter banning Trump and his rhetoric that fuels these insurrectionist tendencies was actually a patriotic move to protect US democracy from a real and impending threat form future insurrectionists. There is an oath taken by those who serve that they will protect the country from all enemies, “foreign and domestic”. If the domestic enemies both believe Trump’s rhetoric and are willing to act on it, then removing that rhetoric is a measure of defence against America’s enemies (do,serif enemies). And if you think private enterprises lose all their business rights when it comes to anything relating to, the then, or current sitting President (I’ll make this clear for you, the President is only a
Temp employee hired by the people of the US that is also subject to removal/dismissal) then you favour Dictatorship over Democracy as you want to set aside all those rights and laws and replace it with the only law of the land being the Law of Trump. I’ll start calling you Sergi or Yrui from now on.
What you need to do is assess why he is really doing this: to make money! He’s just another Kardashian in that way as their source of income is popularity. Right as he came out with what I strongly believe will be a bogus lawsuit he asked for donations. He’s not going to run again, but as long aspeople think he will they will keep throwing money at him and money and fame are the only things he cares about.
You view Twitter as an effective way to communicate with constituents. If you believe 140-280 characters is an effective communication method, why are you writing long posts? Why aren’t all your posts held to a 140-280 character limit? But if you believe 140-280 characters is the most effective way to communicate to his constituents I guess you are calling everyone who voted for him too stupid to understand any thing longer than that. Well, I guessed you failed to recognize that he has an entire communication department that he rarely used to make “official statements”, you know, meaningful ones. Instead, he had to use Twitter and then his communications directors were in constant cleanup mode trying to walk back his tweets. He also had the ability to hold press conferences in front of reporters,and then have media air it and report on it but he rarely used.these. Both avenues are not subject to the terms and conditions of Twitter so they should have been preferred. No president relied on Twitter like a drug addiction needing a fix before Trump. He choose to use a platform that was not under his, or the governments control, at the risk of being kicked off instead of all the traditional channels at his immediate disposal. He violated Twitter’s terms, got kicked off, cried about it like a big baby and that his problem.
As for me calling you an idiot and other words, I have said this over and over again, you (and the other dumbfucks) started with the insults towards me first. Others like Sy barite can keep the discussion civil, but your impulses meant you could not.
Once the gloves come off they NEVER go back on. So as long as you are on this board, you will be on the receiving end of that language from me, forever.