How should I approach friends about group sex?

SOrry I missed this one....

Umm, I've seen some sex scenes and "most beautiful" is not the words I'd use to describe them. Degrading? Humiliating? Dehumanizing? Disgusting? might be more appropriate.



So, why do it? I mean if the focus and you avoided any interaction with the other guy, then him being there is pretty much irrelevant no?

I look at it this way: I don't have to shit into a bowl, sit down at the kitchen table and dig in with a big spoon to know I wouldn't like it. Does that make me insecure or narrow minded? No. It means I know myself, what I like, what I don't like and just because something isn't for me, doesn't make me anything other than me.

This SO reminds me of a discussion years ago at "the other board" about xtabi. What happens is single guys are frowned upon. So guys will go out and get escorts and attend a function. To the point where only about 20% are actual swingers, the rest are single guys with escorts. My take was: why pay to take an escort to a place where you swap escorts with someone else? Why not just book that fricken escort to begin with?

As for the UFC: I can say unequivocally that yeah, I admire the guy's physique. I mean, holy crap these guys are R I P P E D (some of them anyways, Big Country is anything but ripped lol). Does it mean I want to have sex with them? Hell no. It's kind of like a Bugatti Veyron: I can admire it's design, it's performance, everyting. Will I drive one? Hell no.......
 
To trade up? :party:

Seems like a waste of money to me too, you're paying for the time to take them there and back as well.
 
Exactly, unless somebody is being less than honest with themselves.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.Lol.
 
Seeing her explore her sexual desires and testing her boundaries is definitely a turn-on. :party:
 
Sorry, there are SOME boundaries I don't want to see a woman cross, or approach, or test lol......*shudders* there are some things I've seen online that once seen, can't be UNseen and will haunt me until the day I die lol...
 
I know you said "some" sex scenes, but what if the woman is into it? It's not degrading or humiliating then, is it?
 
I'm seriously laughing my ass off at this thread. Yes, his presence WAS irrelevant, except for the fact that he brought Mrs. Dallas along for us to play with.

WHY? That's an easy one to answer.

During the week we went to Temptations, I lost track of how many times I had sex w/ Mrs. CG, w/ Mrs. Dallas, w/ "Sarah" and w/ "Amy", either in one on one situations or in FMF 3way situations or in MFFM situations, but it must have been upwards of 20. True, Mr. Dallas was in the same room during a few of times with Mrs. Dallas, and in each case there were 2 ladies separating him and I.

I am comfortable enough with my own sexuality to overlook those few instances in which there's another dude in the room as long as there's no interaction between him or me, in favour of the bigger picture. That being: as much sex as a guy could possibly want with 4 different sexually liberated and VERY willing and attractive women and in many cases 2 of them simultaneously.

That's why.
 
Kudos to you CG for being able to be part of an experience like that.
I do think it takes a certain kind of man who is well equipped to handle everything that goes with that kind of situation. I mean, if it's gonna be with people whom you have meaningful relationships with anyways. Casual instances I think are probably a lot easier... you never have to see the other people again if you don't want to lol. I care deeply about most of the people I have sex with so I have yet to be with two men at the same time. But I'm sure it'll happen when I'm ready.
 
See, it is comments like that that I don't understand. That is like saying "kudos for liking chicken" or the direct opposite "you're narrow minded if you can't be part of a situation like that". (the latter is what irks me and the gist of some of amy's comments). I think Amy has earned the Captain Obvious monniker lol. Of COURSE it takes a certain kind of man to be a part of a MMFF or a MMF, just like it takes a certain type of man to be an accountant, a brain surgeon, a carpenter, a priest, a porn star, a male model, a dentist, a nurse, an electrician, etc etc etc.

I think CG misinterpreted my "why"....the ONLY reason he was there was because he brought Mrs Dallas along.....Your encounters with amy sarah josie barbra or anyone other than Mrs Dallas, his presence was irrelevant and cannot be included in the why answer. My question as to why was more towards his involvement, or presence, as a reason to have a MMF. I know, how else could you have a finger cuffs situation unless there was another male right there. I think in this instance anyways, it was more like you "put up" with him being there so as to be able to fuck Mrs Dallas. If you could fuck Mrs Dallas without Mr Dallas being there, you would. ie: his presence wasn't a pre-requisite which IS the reason I question someone's motives behind wanting to have a MMF or MMFF.

But I am a little confused. I swear CG you said you did a MMF once for the ladies and said "been there done that" yet here in this post, you're indicating that it was more than a one time thing. According to your most recent post, it seems like it was more than a one time thing, more like what was it? 20 times you say? :intello:
 
Well, that is debatable. If someone wants to do crack, is that not still degrading? IMO it is.....in the S & M scene some are into degradation as it is part of their "thing". Like some like to be stepped on by the dom and or told to lick her boots. This is degrading even though they are a willing participant.

Another good example is the Burkha.....millions here feel that is degrading to women yet I'd say the vast majority who wear it, do so voluntarily.
 
Suppose we aren't talking about the S&M scene, just group sex.

If one of the women goes down on you, is that degrading or humiliating to her?
 
As strange as it may sound, to me, yes it is...which is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of bj's........
 
Okay, I understand that - I think a lot of guys get bj's because there's a degree of putting her in her place. Giving her a facial could be an extension of that.
Some women love giving bjs but many would rather not - even more so with anal sex. That's why there's a market for married men seeing SPs.

But we're talking about equals, not escorts and clients. There is consent among everyone, we presume these women love the taste of cock.
 
Oh come on tboy. Has it been THAT long since you were in a committed relationship? Everyone knows that sex with an SO is far different than sex with a random hook-up, or in the context of THIS website, with an SP. (I assume)

So yes- the fact that Mr. Dallas was present for a few of those sessions during the entire week in Cancun WAS relevant to the rest of the encounters. As everyone knows, one can really screw-up future sexual encounters with an SO, if you screw up at any time with that SO! LOL :ouch:

Seriously though if you want to segregate our encounters in Cancun to just the few encounters with Mr. Dallas in the room, then let me edit my statement to: "Yes, his presence WAS irrelevant to me, except for the fact that he brought Mrs. Dallas along for us to play with." If you want to talk about his relevance to Mrs. CG or Mrs. Dallas, then obviously this relevance changes, because as you point out, he was part of the MFFM & FM & MF goings on in the room. (BTW- MMFF is VERY different that MFFM just to be clear.) :shock:

His involvement both in Cancun and in Texas included sex acts with both Mrs. Dallas and Mrs CG sometimes one on one and sometimes in combination with both ladies. As for me- they included sex acts with both Mrs. CG and Mrs Dallas sometimes one on one and sometimes in combination with both. :)

As for the MFM 3ways (there were only 2- one for each lady and should NOT to be confused with MMF which is entirely different and NOT practiced by any of us) and the "finger cuffs" incident. These didn't happen until we met Mr. and Mrs. Dallas in Detroit about 6 weeks ago. And as I've already said, we did so at the request of the ladies:
 
This whole concept of being a cuckold is completely foreign to me.

Why anyone would encourage his wife to have sex with another man is beyond me.

Especially if there are kids involved. I can only imagine the disappointment they would feel if they found out.

To me once the monogamous intimacy is gone in a relationship it is the beginning of the end.
 
Ouch! Such scathing personal remarks and digs. You guys need to get laid :tongue:
 
SOrry CG, I didn't know there was a difference between MMF and MFM, I thought the initials were all that was important, not the order lol.....

I still think you misunderstand my why question. Let me put it another way: you're describing Mr Dallas' presence as an IF situation. You could only have sex with Mrs Dallas IF he was present, not BECAUSE he was present. Now put that into the MFM scenario and it seems like you had the MFM only IF he was there, you didn't have it BECAUSE he was there.

I also doubt that him being there was a pre-requisite to you having sex with amy and sarah and......

anyhow, Kudos to me for being a certain type that believes in monogamy "high 5's himself" lol......

(put it another way: IF the only way I could bang Jennifer Aniston was IF Brad was banging Angelina on the other side of the room, hell yeah I'd do it...but if the only way I could bang Jennifer was IF Brad was finger cuffing her, then No, I'd pass.......)
 
Hey auggie, I have a great example of degradation even under consent: gangbangs. ie: the Houston 500. Sure Houston was a willing participant but that sure as hell was IMO degrading.........
 
I would have to agree with you Bosco. :great: Cuckolding is a foreign subject to me as well.

Encouraging my wife to have sex with other women on the other hand? Well, that is something I am guilty of. It just so happens my wife enjoys the intimate company of women, and that is just something I cannot provide for her. Fortunately though, it is not something I have a problem with and she also has no issue sharing me with her GF's either. :)

Furthermore, in our situation, our children are very well aware of the fact that their parents still love each other immensely, and even after 23 years are still very much intimate with each other, so hopefully they will be well rounded and loving adults when they reach adulthood as well. Having had many friends whose parents split and get divorced as a result of incompatible sexual intimacy issues, they are very much aware of the fact that sexual intimacy is paramount to a parent's happiness. :love:
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  34. wonderspa:
    weclome to Wonder spa ,(9421Jane st unit127)Wednesday Rmt on the duty.nice big boost Joy,sexy new girl Tiffany Provice deep tissue massage ,very good looking friendly lucy ,long hair
  35. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 girls here today: Some girls today have special service. Inquire with the ladies. ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. KIKI: A young, short & petite Taiwanese cutie, firm body, 5โ€™2โ€, natural C Cups.
  36. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  37. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธJenny๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: ALI, CHERRY & LINDA. ALI (*New Today) is a slim & attractive White/Hispanic mix, whti a great body & sweet services. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary.
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beauti
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCINDY, KIKI & LILY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services.
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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