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$500 for a massage? You have a good amount of disposable income. 10% of my income will go to these hoes if that. Groceries and gas cost me like $500 more. That’s like 3 trips for me. Lol. I can’t justify paying $500 (one session) for sex. Maybe when I am old it would make sense. A beautiful girl willing to put out (non whore) is not a rare situation for me.

Who's paying $500 for a massage?
 
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The mineral oil used by most Spas are the equivalent of Baby Oil. But Baby oil is expensive. Most RMT do not use the oil supplied by the Spa. They bring their own which is Coconut oil. Coconut oil is a vegetable oil whereas Mineral oil is derived from petro. This Mineral Oil is still safe and used in the making of Hair Products as well but not Natural.
You can not trust the Chinese, seriously they are known to cut corners to make maximum profits. If I was going to a massage place I would never deal with a Chinese woman because I don't trust them for good reason. These Chinese are worse than the Jews when it comes to money.
 
I find there is great value out there. Ladies under $200 for fs.

Once I see those glam pictures, I know I am paying a premium for a service. With proper lighting, sexy underwear, correct angles and extensive waxing, a good photographer can make me look good.

I don't do fugly. Just refuse to drop a nickel for 60 mintues with someone who claims to be well educated, selective, etc. I want to get f'ed not debate. And I am not looking for nee friends.

I set a budget and stick to it. For $500/monthly, I can get two 30 minute sessions and one 45-60 minute session. This scratches my itch.

Know your limit and play within it!
 
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You can not trust the Chinese, seriously they are known to cut corners to make maximum profits. If I was going to a massage place I would never deal with a Chinese woman because I don't trust them for good reason. These Chinese are worse than the Jews when it comes to money.
That is stereotyping. Owners might not care but the MPA who is using this oil on 5/6 customers a day will certainly get upset if they get a reaction to garbage oil.
As a FYI. Even the Massage oil that we sell to the Distributor, is technically Food Grade that is also used to make Hair Products. I will not sell Technical Grade that is used for cleaning machinery etc.
My Distributor knows that. They do have some customers saying that they can get this Oil cheaper somewhere else and I know for a fact it is Technical grade. We import in a lot of these. I can say without a doubt that my Distributor accounts for at least 80% of Massage Oil sold in the GTA.
For those of you who knows Spa Owners or someone like Krayee, do educate them - cheaper does not mean better.
We also sell a lot of the Alcohol that these Spas use - again through the Distributor.
 
That is stereotyping. Owners might not care but the MPA who is using this oil on 5/6 customers a day will certainly get upset if they get a reaction to garbage oil.
As a FYI. Even the Massage oil that we sell to the Distributor, is technically Food Grade that is also used to make Hair Products. I will not sell Technical Grade that is used for cleaning machinery etc.
My Distributor knows that. They do have some customers saying that they can get this Oil cheaper somewhere else and I know for a fact it is Technical grade. We import in a lot of these. I can say without a doubt that my Distributor accounts for at least 80% of Massage Oil sold in the GTA.
For those of you who knows Spa Owners or someone like Krayee, do educate them - cheaper does not mean better.
We also sell a lot of the Alcohol that these Spas use - again through the Distributor.
How many men would know notice if the grade of oil if is changed though? I am very chemically sensitive. I can't use baby shampoo without getting a reaction from it. It feels like my hair is on fire. If I went to get a massage and if they changed to technically oil I might notice a difference. I bought MCT oil once but I ended up throwing it out. I was using it for weight loss but I had such a bad reaction, probably not chemically but still, I couldn't continue taking it. I didn't think about using it on my skin. I can't use anything scents, or essential oils. I use dr Bronner's organic soap but only the unscented. If I went to places to get massages I would bring my own oil.
Talking about smell, did you know Glyde condoms do not have that smell that regular condoms do? Men will probably like it better because regular condoms have that funky smell. These condoms are double washed and it's all-natural.
 
How many men would know notice if the grade of oil if is changed though? I am very chemically sensitive. I can't use baby shampoo without getting a reaction from it. It feels like my hair is on fire. If I went to get a massage and if they changed to technically oil I might notice a difference. I bought MCT oil once but I ended up throwing it out. I was using it for weight loss but I had such a bad reaction, probably not chemically but still, I couldn't continue taking it. I didn't think about using it on my skin. I can't use anything scents, or essential oils. I use dr Bronner's organic soap but only the unscented. If I went to places to get massages I would bring my own oil.
Talking about smell, did you know Glyde condoms do not have that smell that regular condoms do? Men will probably like it better because regular condoms have that funky smell. These condoms are double washed and it's all-natural.
Skiyn smell different 2… basically no smell… should ask the gal how they taste sometime! :banana
 
Who's paying $500 for a massage?

Including fs I guess. I know ppl that do it. An attractive hoe will have an unattractive man with no luck with women wrapped around their fingers. $500+ complimentary gifts. Guys are depraved out there and these hoes can sniff it and exploit it likely cuz dude had no chance to get an attractive girl to begin with. Like if you ain’t that dude in high school/college you will never be that dude in your life without tricking and bragging about money. Even then, it’s not the same. That Casanova shit is mad rare and incites mad jealousy cuz it’s that fuckin rare. Lol

That’s why I don’t care for high end hookers. I still got that juice and their beauty is a dime a dozen to me. No if they dropped their prices I would do it. But $500? Hell no, you still like a 7/10. Them 10s command like $1500. Crazy how ppl go for it but I’m just a avg schmo when it comes to finances
 
Including fs I guess. I know ppl that do it. An attractive hoe will have an unattractive man with no luck with women wrapped around their fingers. $500+ complimentary gifts. Guys are depraved out there and these hoes can sniff it and exploit it likely cuz dude had no chance to get an attractive girl to begin with. Like if you ain’t that dude in high school/college you will never be that dude in your life without tricking and bragging about money. Even then, it’s not the same. That Casanova shit is mad rare and incites mad jealousy cuz it’s that fuckin rare. Lol

That’s why I don’t care for high end hookers. I still got that juice and their beauty is a dime a dozen to me. No if they dropped their prices I would do it. But $500? Hell no, you still like a 7/10. Them 10s command like $1500. Crazy how ppl go for it but I’m just a avg schmo when it comes to finances
Just go to tinder or something. I'm not a pickup artist but it's easy to get a woman excited or her wanting sex. You can be fucking ugly and still get laid.
 
Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.
 
Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.
It's a business after all. It's pay for play
 
Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.

Room rates going up to $80 would suck and I would be avoiding those places...

I know one spa that increased to $70 and it definitely affected their business. Plus, the girls told me that the customers still gave them the same "overall" amount which meant $10 more to the boss and $10 less for them. In the end, the owner went back to $60 so guys, you can still talk with your wallets...
 
FS rate in one spa has gone up 50%, from $100 to $150, no matter if you are a long-time regular. F*** that.
Don't fall for price gouging. There are lots of options.
 
If OG stops going to spas the spa business will crash. So OG ? How about you protest and bring prices down lol
 
They gotta consider agencies = holding the line, @ least some, @ 160hh. 💰

When I started, I could get hj & full nudity @ $ 💯 hh…

$60 :money difference… ofc, no bj, no fs, but nude woman + HE, seemed like gd deal…

Now, if a nude handy = $130 or $140… that agency gal starting 2 look more appealing!
 
Room rates going up to $80 would suck and I would be avoiding those places...

I know one spa that increased to $70 and it definitely affected their business. Plus, the girls told me that the customers still gave them the same "overall" amount which meant $10 more to the boss and $10 less for them. In the end, the owner went back to $60 so guys, you can still talk with your wallets...
If everyone cut back, I know it’s difficult to impossible for some, we’ll probably see some softening of fees.
 
I know 4 a fact eSpa increased 💰 $$$ they give 2 girls f/ rm fees, while holding the line 4 clients… giving girls more $$$

Holistic spa rates > semilegit … always 40/60/80 … & girls use2 get no cut…

… they get $30 of $80hr rm fee now… $10 of $60 rm fee … so if yer gonna notice girls want u 2 stay longer now :)

In theory, spa gets less $$$… in reality, they attract hi quality girls that way & get more biz
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Yumi😘💋A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumi’s natural confidence and allure, make her approachable
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub😘 Japanese girl Nina ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD 😘Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appoint
  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Sunday at 🎭𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗬𝗪𝗢𝗢𝗗 𝗦𝗣𝗔🎭, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: JUDY & YUKI. ☎416-222-5554☎ JUDY is friendly and attractive. Come & give her a try. YUKI is a slim & exiting, happy lady. Nice massage & services available. When you visit 🎭Hollywood Spa🎭, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls.
  41. ForeverWarden:
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  42. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ANA, EMILY & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5’1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun student Kitty 26’s with curve body open mind and young flirty Ivy 30’s big buttocks 36DD open mind, sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Yoyo and Sasa are working today. They are young, beautiful, gentle and considerate, and their massage skills are also very good. The service is also very good. Sasa is best at deep massage.
  46. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ♥️ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS 🍬🍭ELLA🍬🍭**
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub😘 Japanese girl Nina ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD 😘Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  49. ZenWellness:
    BEST MASSAGE IN AURORA - ZEN WELLNESS - 15225 YONGE ST - 647-273-7255
  50. soothinghealth:
    Soothing Health Centre - Vaughan - 71 Strada Dr Unit 1 - 437-345-8078
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