Lena - Russian

This is the most press Lena has ever seen on this board. Sadly, most of it is negative. If she reads the posts maybe she can take it as a learning moment, and focus on improving the quality of the massage, rather than trying to educate clients politically
 
This is the most press Lena has ever seen on this board. Sadly, most of it is negative. If she reads the posts maybe she can take it as a learning moment, and focus on improving the quality of the massage, rather than trying to educate clients politically
Let’s hope she is tuned in
 
Let’s hope she is tuned in
As well as ladies like Laura, Josi and others because apparently the conversation is enough to try to ruin a lady's career. Can't let bad conversation affect the weak-minded lol.

I agree that ambiance, atmosphere etc. is an importance part of the experience. I get it, but this is the part that blows me away...If a lady is using way to much pressure, to the point it is painful and "not safe" are you just going to lie here for an hour and let her do that to you...And them come on here complaining how she almost killed you? Anyone who does that has to be at least a bit of a moron. So if she is really endangering you as much as you say, fuckin say something, to her!!!!! How hard can that be? What a piece of work to hide behind a keyboard trashing someone's ability to feed their family because of a conversation!
 
I would like to think that a person would speak up if something is uncomfortable or not hard enough. But I will admit that when it comes to talking I don't ask them to be quiet or change the subject. I let my return or not return speak for me. The Sherwood Park lady comes to mind, all she did was talk about her boyfriend, who cares! enough already, I never went back.
 
.............” What a piece of work to hide behind a keyboard trashing someone’s...............”
You’re not the sharpest brick in the pool, are you fart?
I really do think you just comment to start a fight. And as ineptly childish as that is, it can be the only answer to your blindness to reality.
Your comments about hiding behind your keyboard?.......you really don't see the irony in that????? Lol

I really do pity you Fart.
Get well soon.
 
Your comments about hiding behind your keyboard?.......you really don't see the irony in that????? Lol

I really do pity you Fart.
Get well soon.

There is no irony because I ant not trashing someone's right to feed their family.
I am quite well by the way. Different from most in this room but proud of it and quite fine. Thank so much for your concern though.
If you don't like my comments, use the ignore function (don't ask RMG to help you with that. Seems he hasn't figured it out yet lol). It sounds, however, more like you want to argue though.
 
I would like to think that a person would speak up if something is uncomfortable or not hard enough. But I will admit that when it comes to talking I don't ask them to be quiet or change the subject. I let my return or not return speak for me. The Sherwood Park lady comes to mind, all she did was talk about her boyfriend, who cares! enough already, I never went back.
I agree that it might be a bit tough Soreone as you don't want to come off as rude but is it not better to say something than to trash her right to earn a living?
If a guy cannot understand that then they are the ones with a mental problem. This is not arguing, etc. etc. It is simply respect for someone's right to earn a living and understanding they no one is perfect and that the lady is not ripping anyone off, stealing from them, shorting them on time etc. A guy's lack of ability to communicate a simple request should not be the lady's problem. If enough people mention it right then and there, you still might get the desired result and without publicly trashing her. What if a lady is not even a board member? Telling her gets the point across immediately plus it can be done in a way that will not effect her putting food on the table. Is that so hard to understand? If that simple act of kindness makes me mental, I happily accept the diagnosis. I had no idea there were so many M.D.s on here :rolleyes:
 
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Spexx, thanks for the review. I don't know how anyone can accuse you of character assassination when all you did is report what she said. And since no one has made any claims that she didn't say all of those things, I'm going to consider your reporting accurate. She was preaching her beliefs to you, trying to convince you of something. I'm sure if you believed it, she'd be most appreciative of your passing it on. And if she didn't want you to tell anyone that she said such things, she should have told you. It's not like she revealed intimate details of her life, meant for your ears only.

Yeah, you were a little rude with the "bat shit crazy" part, but when you encounter full on covid denying, trans hating, lizard people believing, tin foil hat wearing vitriol, I'm not going to hold that against you.

Also yeah.... "rhetoric"
 
Etymology: Where rhetoric is using words in a clever way to persuade others to accept an idea, rederick is the use of words that include half-truths and untruth to purposely cause an emotional negative reaction, emphasize differences to an extreme, create bias, bigotry, and unrest.

And I am not the sharpest brick in the pool. Real Rich LOL.
Trust me Rook, I do not need your pity. Save it for others on here who are more deserving.
 
I’m going to reply only one last time before I put this post behind me.
This is not a situation of difference of opinion, nor was it just idle chit chat. From the moment I layed down to the moment I left it was a one sided conversation where no matter what I said or didn’t say she was empowered to continue with the sermon. I clearly expressed that I believed in the dangers of Covid. I clearly expressed I believed in the benefits of the vaccine and all vaccines. Sure I didn’t right come out and say that I was uncomfortable but I made attempts to change the subject, I tried the silent treatment, I gave no indication I wanted to continue hearing this barrage of nonsense, and quite frankly I’m sorry, when someone I just met starts rambling on about transgender reptiles, how this is the apocalypse where there is a war on souls, and Bill Gates is secretly trying to block out the sun; I don’t know how any reasonable person is supposed to respond.
Old Fart, to comment that I didn’t clearly tell Lena my concerns tells me that when you spoke with her, she was as completely oblivious to the session as I have expressed.
Lena was very open to me, a stranger, of how completely and utterly she denies that Covid is dangerous, ignores public health guidelines, is anti-mask/antivax, and feels she is a better judge of health and healthcare than AHS or Health Canada. This is not an opinion. To ignore the advice of every top doctor in the world but listen to a couple internet 15min’ers is foolhearty and dangerous!
In hindsight I should have left. However to be very clear, EVERY review we post here has the potential to affect the providers ability to earn a living. Good or bad our reviews alter the readers perception of the provider. I am just as aware of this now as I was when I posted it. In fact it was the primary reason for my review and all my reviews. I think that is essentially what a review is, is it not? In addition I feel it my responsibility as a fairly active reviewer to share and inform the rest of you the potential risks of health, comfort, and happiness by seeing Lena.
 
... trash her right to earn a living ... simply respect for someone's right to earn a living ... done in a way that will not effect her putting food on the table.

GOOD. LORD. Since when does anyone have a "right" to earn a living? This isn't the Soviet Union. If you want to earn a successful living, then deliver a service people will choose to continue spend their own hard-earned dollars on- dollars which they probably earned by spending their day doing the same. Whether someone has a positive or negative experience with any service, we all benefit from receiving an honest report of it and the free market does its thing from there. If you enjoy listening to an hour of controversial political opinion when getting a massage, then fill your shiny white greaves (I'm sure her availability has gone up recently). I, for one, appreciate the value in Spexx' review and will pass.
 
Spexx, I'd have a lot more respect for your post:
- if you also stood up to Redneckman for his bitching about the government lockdowns unless you think he
is a better judge of health and healthcare than AHS or Health Canada.
That too was the advice of every top doctor in the world. In fact, the government fell short of what the doctors said was needed.
- you also bash the ladies that are working right now and for the past three weeks during the most recent shutdown AND every guy who went for a massage during the same period, unless you think they are
a better judge of health and healthcare than AHS or Health Canada.
Why are these ladies getting glowing reviews when they are violating health regulations, assuming it is really safety that you are concerned about?

When I complained about people dying being a bigger concern than people losing jobs and businesses then half the guys on here bitched me for that and preached to me about their rights etc. etc. Redneck man bleats n and on about his ability to make money and my putrid body yada yada yada. Where was all the safety talk then? Like I said, Rich, real rich. Total lack of credibility here.
 
The lady provides a service and charges for it, i.e. she runs a business! A business that is dependent on providing good service and endearing/building loyalty in customers. Part of this is reviews by customers , whether it be word of mouth or in today's age posting on a forum. She may or may not want reviews, good or bad, but unfortunately they are going to happen, no different than a restaurant, renovation company, or an auto repair shop. So if she is a smart entrepreneur she will do everything she can to provide the best service she can and avoid doing anything to offend customers.

By the way, no business has a right to succeed, It has a right to try. Success is always based on the quality of products and services it offers and a poor operator often blames the clientele for their failure, rather than look at how they were the author of their own demise.
 
If I enter a house for a massage. And it smells of sanitizer, is painfully clean, the provider is checking my temp and grilling me about my overall health, all while wearing a mask? Feel free to tell me that you think JT is a lizard alien. I won’t come back, but I will feel much safer disagreeing with you.

I don’t give a rats ass about the money on your table if you place me in harms way of possibly catching this shit, marking me miss work and loosing money off my table. (Maybe worse)
Happy to support you if you support me.

And Fart?......... go get a fucking massage. Geeesses!
 
Wow Old fart....this is a review site. he reported his experience and you have a problem with that. Get your head checked....what an idiot
 
If only there were a virus that could kill this thread. But if there is one takeaway from this discourse, it is that Spex is a transgender reptilian and took the hate speech against his species far to personally! Either that, or just a lesson to providers that it is just as important to stroke the egos of their client, as it is to stroke their .........
 
Wow Old fart....this is a review site. he reported his experience and you have a problem with that. Get your head checked....what an idiot
That's what the "ignore" is for- just tap on his name and select "ignore". It is true- "Ignorance is bliss!"
 
Hmmmm....just want to wade into this hot mess...and put in my 2 cents

1. My experience with Lena: I saw her way back in 2016. My only time with her, and she was my first prostrate massage (not just outside play). So, my recollection is that she did say a few medical claims that I rolled my eyes at, but that was about it. My overall impression was that she was a nice lady. She even offered me a sandwich at the end of the session! I wasn't wowed, but I don't remember it being a bad massage either...I think I never made it back because I didn't like the set up...

2. Thanks for the honest review. We read these reviews and we take what we want from them, and ignore what we aren't interested in.Good or bad we need to keep all reviews coming in. If we keep lambasting reviews then nobody would want to post anymore, and what good would be a review board? Also, it may have been a "negative" review, but I bet there are a few people out there who saw the review and their opinions aligned with Lena, and so she may have got some new clients! It's possible! People like different things: blonde, asian, chubby, quiet, "bat-ass crazy". We are not here to judge.

3. So, kinda preachy here but I hope we can play nice. We don't have to agree with each other, but we don't have to be nasty about it either. We are a stigmatized segment of society, and we all found each other electronically with some common interests. We need to be supporting each other rather than knocking each other down, and this should be a safe space to give honest opinions about our experiences. They are just opinions, and may or may not apply to you, so we give a thumbs up or a thumbs down, leave a reply, and move on, no? If we read something we like, we try, if its something we don't like, we don't try! simple as that! (well, not really, but you get the idea...). We don't always have to have the same tastes or sensibilities!
 
I hope she is not on this forum.

She sure is a member here, and has been following along! (And if she hasn’t been following along, then someone hacked her profile and has been very careful to not click this thread!
 
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