Negotiating with chicas

[Miguel P]

Believe it or not, SGs are people too. You will be delightfully surprised with their attitude turn around away from a crappy room and some respectable treatment. They can be as much fun as any escort or any BG. And I wouldn't do SGs or repeat with SGs if I didn't get GFE. And yes you can have DATY with a SG. Why not? Most enjoy it.

But remember you have to cultivate these relationships. And if you frequent TJ what else do you have to do all day or night after your 2 hour escort cita? Are you bored? instead of buying BGs $7.50 fichas for an hour or two, why not experiment and take a hottie SG of your liking to a nearby Loncheria, give her the $20 and buy her lunch and chat instead?

For me, I enjoy the shopping and I have more fun with Sg citas even though many BGs are available, and I have done many escorts. So why not change it up? Or not???

 

[HEY LIBS]

Amigo: $40 BG will prevent a lot of girls from going to TJ, but on the other hand, it will also improve the quality of the girls.... I have noticed that there are fewer chicks in the zona, but the quality have improved.... the ugly ones will not get any work and thus won't come....

I think it is a good thing... it is about time that Mexico should get a wage reduction like we have in the US.... I am getting 15%-30% less in pay every month, and it is only fair that TJ chicas should also get a pay cut....

In conclusion: don't look at it as a bad thing, but rather a good thing..... the news of lower cost will spread and will bring in more clientel and thus increase the chica numbers..... it is all about supply and demand....

 

[verms55]

Got news yesterday that several of my GF's from different clubs are coming back from TJ to work back again at the local clubs because business for them was bad..
Now I know why... those girls by lowering prices are the ones that start the chain reaction that stop the flow of other new girls from going to TJ.
These girls coming back to Monterrey will pass the word that TJ is no good.
You have to understand that the girls earn 1000 per hour here so a 60 dll / 30 minute per customer was really good for them.
Bringing the price down to 40 will not be atractive for best of the crop that are willing to move just for the money.

 

[SweetCountryLily]

I knew this street chica for almost 2 years. She said she doesn't have padrote, but she borrowed 500,000 pesos. So whatever she earned from street job,she is spending some for herself and sending to her mom around 20,000 peso a month and sending all the rest of the money to the lender(or padrote). whenever she stays with me, she is doing lots of text. Sometimes 1 am or 3pm...all the time.Maybe padrote? But she keep denying about padrote or novio. She is making lots of money. From my calculation, she is making around $8,000 to $10,000 a month. If her story is true, she made at least $5000 a month payment to lender(or padrote) and she made almost 2 years payment. Doesn't make sense at all.It supposed to pay off long time ago. Can anyone explain to me about this deal?

 

[Julie B]

For me it's not about the money, it's about having the best experience I can have. Hook up with an escort from either CuminTJ or MexicoLindoBar dot com. Spend the money, have that GFE experience, anything less sux. For orgasim 2-5 head over to Adelitas or HongKong and fuck the dead fish, by then who cares you are just telling your dick, please stay hard so I can finish and stumble home.

 

[Troll]

Bad Guy-

Some of your comments may be naive but much of what you say is on point. The number is neither 90% nor 1%. It is roughly between 30% - 70%. It really depends if you refer to street girls only as the ones standing in front of hotels vs. the hundreds that are often walking around. It isn't 90% under any circumstances but there are lot of controlling padrotes.

The number given that is not correct is that 60% of the club girls have padrotes. That estimate is absurd. It depends on what clubs you include but that number is below 20%. Let the badgering from some members slide right off of you. They have their own "issues and agendas" to say the least.

 

[WWE Bragging Rights]

That's some good advice.... stay away from the street walkers....

With the recent decline in TJ mongering business, a lot of the bar girls are reducing their price down to $40 for 30 minutes.... it is a bargin when compared to the SGs who still charges a based price of $20 which includes nothing.... when will some of these SG learn.... nowadays, I pay only $25 for full services from SG and $40 from BGs...

Also, what used to be the Miami bar is now the Las Chaveles.... nice bar with live bands and pretty chicas.... I heard they are the fresh of the bus chicas, and Las Chaveles is the place to break them in.... more like the Triple A of the TJ bars.... there are some gems there I tell you that....

 

[Chris A]

The truth is I work for the chicas...not the other way around.[/QUOTE]

I was on your side until I read this comment. Please Sampson; you can deceive yourself but try not to deceive others.

As far as what you do, as long as physical or mental abuse or violence is not involved, I have no problem with it. The issue you don't address that is very pertinent here however is that Chicas can basically only have one Padrote while Padrotes ie. you) can (and do) have multiple chicas.

 

[ATHEIST IS TRUTH!]

TJ_CH AD: Dude you are absolutely dead on with your advice. However you have mentioned the extreme high and the extreme low going from HK and ADelitas to SG's. What do you think about all the inbetweens? I'm talking about Rio Verde, Chavelas, Tropical, Amor Latino, Glorias etc. For me these are all very negotiable and I am identical to you in terms of what I offer, what I want, and where I go. The usual 30 for 50/60 deal w/ a knock on the door after 20 mins got old to me. Don't you agree that those "mid levels" are outstanding recruiting factories?

I am always concerned the SG's have Padrotes that will cause a problem. Can you get them to go drink a few shots of tequila with you first and then head to Santiago? What are other places to get the girl out of the club in your opinion paying nothing or nominal amounts?

 

[Faith.Surfer boy.Sammy]

Now, wait a minute! You are backtracking. I thought I was going to go up to the first SG that caught my fancy and tell 'em that TJ_CA sent me and $1,000 pesos for 2 hours was a screaming good deal for you, Ms. SG, and if you don't take me up on my offer right now, well, Senorita Poquita, hay muchas otras chicas disponible! (Ah, right. That is how it is all goin' down. Uh, uh.)

Yes, this is food for thought. I am currently psyching myself up for my next "SG only or bust" bombing run. I do have a question. Would you consider DATY with SGs? I am assuming that the two-hour, Leyva or HDS, deal has been consummated and we are starting off with a shower together. I have never DATY'd a SG and only rarely with a BG. In some of those $4 SG hotels, I find myself wanted to keep my mouth closed the entire session and I try not to touch anything except for the chica. Would an SG even allow DATY? (Yes, yes, I know. Some mongers claim that they get GFE from a SG but I am still skeptical.)

Happy Hunting!

 

[Jamal]

At the best 5% of the street chicas are not pimped. Many have to go to the Electra every morning and send their money to their handler. I have a good friend that spent 8 years with her pimp before he dumped her for a younger chica. She often does housework for me and worked 2 years independent and then opened up a business. I have another friend that is 19 and has 5 years service with a pimp and works 6 days a week and sometimes 7....Once you really get to know the chicas you will get the truth.

I can go on and on with stories.

If you don't like what I do that is fine, however I provide a service and get compensated a little for each job I get for a chica. She can quit and comeback...quite forever, whatever she wants to do. Chicas working with me are far more independent than street girls.

The truth is I work for the chicas...not the other way around.

 

[cn0410]

Yo gmbrldx: Some food for thought? Next time in TJ experiment with the SGs by asking for 2 hours for $1500 pesos. It's a starting point that I believe you will have a lot of success with. And make sure you start every conversation with a smile.

 

[In search of Confidence]

I hear you... she must have a "tutle shell" of a cunt now.... 10,000+ cocks and counting.... enough cum to fill a pool....

Lately, I enjoy sweet-talk the young "fresh off the bus chicas from the pueblos".... I tell them I love them, and want to sponsor them to the US, and together we'll go traveling and stuff.... a lot "somos" and "estamos" in my sentences.... I goal is to get GFE, BBBJ and even BB sex.... out of 10 chicas, five would roll their eyes at me and say no.... the other five would think about what I say, and 4 of them would eventually say no; and this leaves 1 who I get to have my way without paying more.... I get a big joy out of bull-shiting the super young girls...

Once, as I walked on the sidewalk, one chica grabbed me and slammed me against the wall.... I was shocked... it turn out to be a girl I bull shited a while ago... she asked me why I never called her and sponsor her to the US.... I told her my wife came back and I had to try to work on my marriage.... this time, she saw through my bull shit.... at my age, with less juice flowing down there even with the help of the blue pills, I get a kick out of talking to the girls.... this almost got me in trouble a month ago (see my thread, the person behind the TJ street girl)... but it is all fun...

How did I get my name.... while, I earned it....

 

[chntlrose]

The first girl I ever experienced in Mexico was Eileen at Adelitas in 2001. I see her EVERY time I revisit there. Seriously, no exageration, every time I've gone in there over the last 10 years I see her. My friends laugh and tease me at this coincidence. She must be the most reliable and steady worker there. It pains me to think of all the dick that the older ladies in there have taken before me. Like theBadGuy, I too always try to go with the youngest available there. Admitedly though, the older girls are more often than not so much better in bed than the newbies. I just can't help but do the math whenever I see Eileen. Look out for her gentlemen; she's a thin, goodlooking platinum blonde with a face that resembles Paris Hilton. Lately, she sports a bit of an elegant, lady-like look in her hair styles and dresses. Ironic.

 

[Greybeard]

This has been true. I started with escorts -- JazminGFE was my first! Ah, the sweet memories -- and after being introduced to La Zona by a couple of friends and then finding these forums, I decided to try my hand at the BGs and SGs. It has been rewarding at times and also frustrating at times. Your favorite eforum.xxx-line is "Shopping is fun." For me personally, shopping has not been and usually never is much fun. But I am willing to listen and learn and experiment.


It was unsolicited! The SGs or BGs would offer whatever service they were hawking for an extra fee. I understand that I am able to respectfully decline but, for me, it is a serious distraction. I do understand that everything that you want must be negotiated beforehand with SGs and BGs.


Yes, indeed, spoiled is the appropriate word! My time in TJ is rather limited so I appreciate knowing that I am going to get what I am after. But there are some occasions when I am able to spend more time there. Experimentation is the key to discovery.


Thank you very much for your offer. I will be certain to take you up on it.

 

[starrcod]

Your spanish is probably much better than mine. I can communicate with the chicas but I cannot converse. I have a couple of go to bi-lingual guys that live in LZ that I use a lot.

But I never ask a chica for a price. I ask if she will come to my room for 2 hours for $1000 pesos? If she counters with a higher price I simply reply, no gracias with a smile, and walk away.

If she accepts, I then reply with "sin condom orale ok?" If she says no, then I may or may not do the deal, even for $1000 pesos. I have plenty of "inventory".

Just to clarify things. I don't expect to find a new SG every week. I have several SGs that I repeat A LOT with. But shopping is fun.

But the point is you do not have to pay SG retail if you experiment.

 

[Jewel]

I have been smiling and winking at Guadalupe for 10 years. And have never taken her up. A very pretty chica with a very nice body.

 

[American Woman]

Good grief gmbrldx, I want to explain things nicely, and you can't compare a SG with an escort??? Why would you? It doesn't even make sense to compare the two??? As you well know a SG is primarily 15 minutes and $20/$25.

But SGs take time, patience and cultivation. And my sense is that it's nothing you are willing to work at?

A case in point. I have never had a problem getting a chica to HDS. But the solution is simple. All the chicas will travel to the Leyva. Screw HDS. Getting a chica to the room is the objective and worth the change. So why wouldn't you?

And why would you be confronted with a SG up selling you in the room??? You should be discussing all that on the street before to head to the room. If you are not willing to pay the $5 up charges walk away? Why wouldn't you? As always, you only get what you negotiate with a SG.

You can never make assumptions with a SG as you can with an escort. Guadalupe is the perfect example of that. You can never expect a SG to volunteer GFE for a 20 or 30 minute cita. Why would you?

You are spoiled with escorts, and that's a good thing. You are getting what you want, GFE, when you want it. And you know not to expect anything similar from a BG or an SG unless you are just experimenting. So don't set your self up for disappointment.

With all this being said, if you are going to be in TJ on any weekend PM me. I'll buy you and Arrowhead and then walk La Zona.

 

[mbush40]

TJCA, I assume you ask the girl the price first and if she confirms then you ask the menu? At that point, does she try to re negotiate the price or are they usually ok with your menu request? My Spanish is basic. Could you type out your menu request in Spanish with English translation please?

Thanks

 

[james r]

Well my service has never had a price raise. I have not seen much decline in business....but there are lots of agencies popping up. I don't follow prices too much in the US, but our clients are always telling me that they can have 3 great hours with us for the same price as one good hour in the US. They do concede that their are less expensive providers in the US, but the service is no where near our level. Some folks are price driven and others are service driven.