In the pub tonight talking to a mate, he has been once to thailand and we were exchanging stories, He told me how he spent the night with a BG at her room. The next day she walked him to a cab, he got in and she says ' have you forgotten something ? '( money ) . He told me he said ' i dont think so ' ( even though he knew what she meant ), and he toldthe taxi driver to drive on. I told him that this was out of order and how would he like it if he went to work for the day and his boss didnt pay him. I think then he understood . What i think the problem is that many newbies do not have a true appreciation of how things work in LOS,and behave like they would in their own country, IE , IF you sort the services of a prostitute in the UK and you had the chance to have a freebie, many people would, However, the same does not apply in Thailand, but i do think that is very easy to quickly learn....