Show your ID.... ???

[Neko]

You don't have to give any personal information to register with this board.

I don't see a way that any LE can identify who I am from the information I provided to register on this board. There's no trust issue here.

I could be mistaken though.

 

[Dusk]

i know this is a drastic step kayla but may i make the suggestion that you move ur operation to another location that doesnt have such laws that is if you think your business or see your business begin to be affected by the new laws

 

[kshollywood]

Then there's nothing to worry about . I'm dyslexic and f*ck up things all the time. See you soon " un named " one

 

[Wrestles4Food]

Today when I went into HFH the asked me to show my drivers liscence and the were taking down the drivers liscence numbers of everyone that came in. WTF??? They have to do this a part of the By-law. That I think really sucks. I don't want to be showing my ID and and have it taken down. What do they need that for anyway??

 

[Polgeria]

Yes.. I am upset about it. When I was first told about it at the end of last year.. I stomped my feet and made a fuss. I screamed 'invasion of privacy' but it didn't make a difference unfortunately

I didn't even catch the thread until this morning when someone suggested to me that I need to respond to it.. so I didn't get a chance to read what was posted but by what you are telling me here.. I can only imagine. It just sucks.

 

[sh0rtea d0o wh0p]

Kayla, if you beleave that ALL the guy's that go to your SPA are OK with giving this info, thats great but there are ALOT of guy's on here that DO NOT feel comfortable doing that........YES LE is trying to weed you out of business and this is actually a pretty good way to do it...... PAUL/IT makes a good point, maybe a number or two is screwed up, and YES they do have the ability to track you down via DL# !!!! Here's something to try tell us (HONESTLY) in 30-45 days if you notice a, shall we say "SLIGHT" decrease in business, if you do, well I guess guy's are NOT quite 99% OK with it, if business has'nt changed....your right....NOBODY minds you knowing who they are.............or being on record.....that's in your safe for only you to see !!!!

 

[taylorlautnerlover]

Until we get clarification from Kayla that this is the case we will treat this as suspicious.

It could be because recently an underaged client was caught at a mp, that all the area mp's are checking ID for those that look under 25. I highly doubt that Kayla would permit her staff to record the license number. Until we hear from her we will treat this post accordingly. It was posted at 10:13 last night and HFH closes at 5 on Sundays.

Before anyone starts blasting me about showing favouritism to the advertisers, HFH is not an advertiser here.

 

[Jenken]

You misunderstood me. I know Cameron has a good reputation and good image. I have yet to see one single post that spoke ill of her. That's the reason why she continued to get good reviews and these threads stay (despite your request for removal of ALL HFH threads). On the other hand, negative reviews on other MPAs/situations were removed very efficiently - just my observation - I am not here to track HFH threads. Just reporting my observations and provide a "balanced" view.

Regarding Tarah, she is totally different from Cameron from what I know. People complaint only b/c they had had bad experience with her. People here are generally very knowledgeable of how she operates and there is no need to re-iterate.

 

[stars.stripes.soccer.]

damn i gotta get my massages is while i can i dont how much ill be visiting mps once these new laws come into effect everywhere -- and me so young and havent tried so many differnt mps/mpas

 

[echinopsis .]

v) Every Body Rub Parlour owner and every Body Rub Parlour Operator shall:

i) Keep a written record of all appointments, bookings and arrangements for body rubs or services and such records shall be made 'readily available' upon demand of a person authorized to enforce the provisions of this By-law.

ii) the records referred to in Section 13.0 (3) v) i) shall be maintained for a period of not less than 3 months.

iii) the records referred to in Section 13.0 (3) i) shall indicate the time, date, fee charged, and service provided, the full legal name and any aliases used by the attendant providing such services and that full legal name and current address of the customer as may be 'evidenced by a valid Driver's License'.

iv) every Body Rub Parlour Owner and every Body Rub Parlour Operator shall maintain and produce upon demand of the person authorized to enforce the provisions of this By-Law an employee schedule that indicates the full legal name and any aliases used by each attendant and operator and the start and finish time for each day for each attendant and operator.

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When a man visits HFH, he will be asked to produce a drivers license. His drivers license number will be marked on the sheet. If you notice in the bylaw we can either ask for the number on his drivers licence or his full legal name and address. So we chose the drivers license number.

Notice in the bylaw it reads, 'readily available'. This means.. when the bylaw officer visits to check the records, he looks to see that we have taken the number down for each client and we have records for 3 months. He will not be removing the records from HFH - he would need a warrant to do so. He can not contact you or use this information against you in any way - that is illegal. Neither can I. It comes down to the fact that bylaw is trying to control our supply and demand - they know that men will be leary to visit MP's if they have to show their identification because they will be afraid to do so. This is the sole reason for them asking us to record the information.

If we do not record the information we will first be closed down for 15 days. If we still do not record the information, they will close us down permanently. I have no choice. But as I said, legally, they can not do anything with the information other than see that it was recorded physically.

I have been telling everyone for a very long time that every district will adapt the Vaughan By-law within time. As I have said before, it is the strictest bylaw across Canada. Recently, it has been posted here on massageplanet.net that Brampton and/or Missassauga has adapted a new bylaw in which the girls must be fully clothed. In the bylaw the proper wording is, 'covered by opaque material at all times.' That is old news. It's been in Vaughan bylaw since I opened HFH. So when guys come on this board and post about getting a nude massage, etc, it is obviously breaking the bylaw Now you have to take into consideration this for ALL places not only a few. What's more important? Writing the grand review or having a nice place to go to?

I knew that eventually it would change. And here it is. Eventually, those places will be asking for the same thing that I am doing now. So.. we can't prevent it. But at least you can feel more assured that by going to a place that is following the bylaw accordingly, the less hassle for the client in the end.

 

[Illese]

When I first contacted Fred and moderators about having the reviews on HFH removed, they may have missed some.. but if I was purposely going to leave some up.. it would be on a girl who is lacking business..lol.. you know what I mean.

As far as negative reviews being removed.. No.. I would never ask for that.. I've learnt and helped the girls learn from negative reviews.. that's how anyone would learn. But I did see reviews on this board by some who have even suggested that FS is available at HFH which is pure bullshit and I freaked when I heard that. I prefer editing the review.. taking out what shouldn't be there in the direction of discretion.. not removing a guy telling his story of having a bad time. I believe in the review process .. always have. My bylaw doesn't...

 

[Jonn Musacha]

Thanks for the clarification Kayla. I presume this applies to every single MP, licensed or not in Vaughan only?

 

[Curtislj]

I've thought about that, but then last year my bylaw told me that at least a dozen other districts has contacted him to re-write the bylaw for them in the same version of Vaughan. There is really no where else to go. This is the reason you are seeing changes now in brampton and mississauga. Changes that took place here years ago.. so everyone is catching up.

Like I said, right now it is a shock. Same as the first time that a guy is here during an inspection.. he panics thinking he will be getting a phone call.. time goes by.. and he realizes that he was never contacted or directly involved with the bylaw tickets that the girls received.. then he comes back stronger. Guys post that 'raids' happened.. and exaggerate the situation when there is a big difference between a raid and an inspection. There is a thread somewhere here on massageplanet.net of a man who was at HFH the night that my bylaw came to inspect the records and if you weren't here, by the sound of the post, you would think that we were raided and all hauled off to jail. All my bylaw did is walk in to see the records and they were upset that I didn't have them on hand because I kept them at home.

So I have two choices. I take the bylaw as it is and keep my business open losing customers along the way because they are afraid... or I close down. The customers that I lose means the bylaw won.. that's what they want.. that's the whole reason for this. But closing down my business would mean that I lose too.. and I won't.. I struggled to get here.. I won't go down without a fight

 

[Luveena]

If the bylaw officers can't copy or retrieve the info (and presumably verify it) then what's to stop the MP from "accidentally" copying down the licence number inaccurately?

Sounds like this may also result in a bit of a market for fake ID.

 

[trai]

f*ck you, you got Alexis ( just kidding )

 

[Musicisthebest]

Well I hate to say this, but my visits to MP's requiring this information (and I understand why) are over.

It's a shame, because Kayla operates a first class establishment, and I'm really gonna miss the ladies (oh God am I gonna miss the ladies).

Paul, does this currently apply for IT as well?

On another note...I guess I'll start seeing more SP's now...all is not lost.

elmo

 

[I hate Peugeot]

Time to close this thread?

 

[Jordan :)]

When I said 99% of guys don't have a problem with it.. I meant since we have been asking. Many many guys have left their DL here to use their visa and never had a problem with it then either.

As far as a decrease in business.. I noticed a small decrease even when I stopped posting on massageplanet.net. I haven't posted in months .. this thread being my first since then. Like I said though.. it's not a new rule that I made up personally... it's not a choice that I have. I have no choice and I can't change it

Besides.. like someone else said earlier.. if the cops are really that interested or bylaw in a man's identity.. why not just sit outside and record license plates?

 

[vinnyhonn]

Just use Fred Zed's license number...

Z0000-00000-00069

 

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