Show your ID.... ???

[lolaloveschachi]

Originally posted by Ref
. The remaining parlours offer a hand release, and that to the general public is the same as having sex (disagree if you want, but it raises the old argument

 

[Tink42]

So Rusty....are you saying that your mom, dad, sister, brother, nephew, niece grandchildren all know what you do with your spare time???

If not can I email them some excerpts from your threads with some explicit details of your sessions with your favorites at HFH and IT??

Sorry Rusty, but if you don't think that there is great potential for abuse of this system by a variety of parties, then you are sadly mistaken.

Gentlemen, there is no need to panic over this issue...you all know what you need to do to protect your identities, so go out there and enjoy your hobby

 

[DukeofDixie]

slowandeasy,

Here's my dad's email address

HS1959@hotmail.com

My mom's

Jennifer_k@statefarm.com

I dont have any brothers or sisters.

 

[HERB N]

Gentlemen,

Allow me to extrapolate, if you will.

Assuming that in one year's time this bylaw has been tested and applied throughout the GTA and outer regions, and that attempts to deem it invasive or illegal have failed, what will be next?

The adult service industry is not the only one with a vocal lobby in opposition. Both tobacco and alcohol have similar opponents, but these industries also have the means to fight for their interests.

Since the bylaw's justification is most likely to assure no persons under the age of majority are provided a service, subsequently a similar bylaw should be enacted for tobacco and alcohol sales, to ensure that today's youth are protected from sex, tobacco, and alcohol.

To this end, I propose that we embrace this law, and encourage our municipal representatives to impose similar restrictions on the LCBO, Brewer's Retail, and every tobacco sales outlet.

Realistically, how long will the people stand for having a record of every visit they make to the liquor store, every pack of smokes, every two-four?

Exactly. Bring other people into our fight... just don't tell them why.

 

[jed slade]

So, some questions prompted by your comments, Ref:

1. What is wrong with a great massage and a HJ other than the puritanical moralizing of some prim and proper tight asses?

2. What difference does it make whether or not The Church considers a HJ or a BJ to be sex?

3. Didn't The Church define sex as activities that lead to reproduction?

4. What is wrong with sex?

5. Why do non-Catholics have to swallow the dogma invented by infallible Papal authority?

If you begin with the proposition that sex is "dirty," then everything that is associated with sex is "guilty by association"!

But one thing in which I do differ with you, Ref. When I first visited an MP a long, long time ago, my reaction was

 

[Dads boy]

This is (a) sick (joke).

 

[. otto.saxo .]

I plan on using my dead mother's driver's license. She would be proud.

 

[MissBieber]

However, the real question is, does it matter whether or not hobbying is wrong, or is what's at issue here that others believe it to be wrong?

In other words, is it better to fight the "moral" ideas and those who hold them, or the results they have created?

 

[harley_cowgirl_20]

Hmmmm..................the other team seems to have won this round. OR are they forcing the game underground. The day I have to give my ID for something that is legal (they don't have a problem with collecting license $) will be the day my hobby changes (underground)

 

[lauraangelranger]

Shit! Now we have 2 threads going on the same subject, this one and http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29463... is there any way that the moderators can blend them so that they make more sense?


Howard: the issue is that others who have been (unfortunately) elected to pass laws say that hobbying is wrong!

Perry

 

[Jim Halpert]

How many people would like to continue to use places like HFH, IT, SRM, Allure, etc (if, according to Paul/IT, it will become a universal thing)? Is it worth giving up 1 session in order to contribute to a fund to fight this degrading by-law? Would MP owners match offers coming in?

 

[Ash T]

One must not overlook the fact that there are other potential problems. While MP owners are giving you their honourable intentions to protect these lists for 90 days, there maybe conditions beyond their control!
Thieves and criminals can steal the lists from the MP front door or the owner's homes and with their friends at the DL# outlets can find out who the hobbyists are and target them for extortions.
This condition presents the most potentially damaging scenario for some of us who has a SO and also those who may run for politics later on (to help fellow hobbists to over-turn these by-laws!).

 

[Tressa Marie]

As argued above, in the event that thieves and criminals wanted to extort clients, they could simply trace license plate numbers. Or better, they could trail all mini vans that arrive at the spa with a tell tale car seat in the back seat and then extort them. Doesn't happen, my friend. Get the paranoia in check.

The circumstance I would worry about is the LE getting a warrant to obtain access to the list. But that is my fear. I just don't want my name hitting the Toronto Sun in some case down the road like threatened in those busted escort agencies.

Fernie

 

[RN2B]

As a matter of information I haven't seen any of those lists - were they ever published ? That case was much higher profile as it involved underage sp's . I would see this as being a much lower risk.

"Hey officer , I golf a lot and need regular massages and I guess I'm homophobic 'cause I won't let a guy massage me . I found this great place where the girls are really cute ......... is there something wrong....they said they had a licence and everything....."

 

[Silver Bear]

Well the area that I frequent PMs in doesn't have any such regulations. And not having a SO it makes it less of a problem for me anyway.

I have had f/s at several parlours but as for the possibility of ever being called to testify in court, even though I'm basically an honest person if it was good enough for the President of The United States;

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" works for me.So I doubt that I would ever be called as a witness.

 

[Mutt for the Truth]

why not? if your info. is misused the legal ramifications are quite great.

 

[jhall20032003]

Well my days of going to these places are over and giving out ID is not my way of having fun and a little relaxation at your favorite mp with you on a list of so some cops can get there rocks off having you checked out everytime you want to go there! My way is incalls to some girls condo or house for a more private massage !

 

[MissMoi]

[red] Thats all you nead to know so close this thread already [/red]

 

[mxxoxoxo]

LOL "Every license number in this book is invalid!"

 

[Pompal 09.]

I predict that Dyslexia may become a common workplace affliction in MPs ;-).